Bed side replacement parts

[5spd540]

Does anyone have any info on goodmark compared to AMD bedsides. I am asking due to I can get goodmark for 200$ less per side

[randy500]

I think they are the same for a short bed, I have AMD and Woodall industries they are identical

[5spd540]

It just don't make sense to me why the AMD are so much more if there is not a huge difference in them.

[Grumpy old man]

there all the same just different names to charge more for the middle man . average mark up is 35% to retail . so when you see the dealers sell with a 25% discount they are still making 10% .

[5spd540]

Originally Posted by Grumpy old man

there all the same just different names to charge more for the middle man . average mark up is 35% to retail . so when you see the dealers sell with a 25% discount they are still making 10% .

Do you have any personal experience with this statement? I know some guys have inside info on things like this and was hoping you did.

[Grumpy old man]

Originally Posted by 5spd540

Do you have any personal experience with this statement? I know some guys have inside info on things like this and was hoping you did.

I don't know about "inside info " just what I've experienced in the last few years . Last year I bought some '67 short bedsides from carid.com that I found for $349.00 each Long story short after waiting on backorder they showed up in an AMD large box inside was another box with Woodall stickers ,I just bought another set from rockauto.com for $439.00 each that showed up in an AMD box and they are all exactly the same . I checked into AMD dealership and it was a $7,000.00 buy in to sell Any make/model of their panels with a 35% wholesale discount . I searched for the best price/shipping . From what I understand there is one manufacture for the '67 and two for the 68-72 ? The '67 always seem to be less expensive . The prices are all over the board the lowest was carid at $349.00 (now they are higher) and I've seen them as high as $699.00 each ? So your results may vary . the fit will never match OEM but they are pretty good replacements and nice original bedsides are getting harder to find and way more expensive . it's an online world now so do your due diligence and find the best price with shipping . The AMD web site is always going to show the retail price or it wouldn't pay to become a dealer if they offered deep discounts . Same goes for ACC (auto custom carpets ) they show $249.00 for a mass backed carpet kit and rockauto is $169.00 for the same ACC carpet . Anyone can easily become a parts dealer if you have the time and $ for online drop ship sales . There is a guy on ebay selling glass from PGW (pittsburgh glass works ) who has a dealer account when you buy from him all he does is place the order and you pick up the glass from any of the PGW locations (most major cities ) = No shipping, no return sales because the buyer picks up and accepts the glass and it's a "no touch operation" for him so even if he's only making 5% on the item he's banking $$

[skinnan]

Originally Posted by Grumpy old man

there all the same just different names to charge more for the middle man . average mark up is 35% to retail . so when you see the dealers sell with a 25% discount they are still making 10% .

The math isn't exactly right but we get your point....

[Grumpy old man]

Originally Posted by skinnan

The math isn't exactly right but we get your point....

Sorry ! Next time I'll make sure I post a legal disclaimer , Graphic display with description and a advanced power point presentation for your approval .

[camtoys1]

Woodall industries makes them all just get Reboxed amd dont make any panel someone else make them amd just puts there name on the parts

[5spd540]

This is starting to get very interesting and I am learning how this repop thing works now.

[camtoys1]

thats not true amd dont make any parts you think he is going to say where he gets his stuff its all comes from over seas

[KP Jon]

Originally Posted by camtoys1

thats not true amd dont make any parts you think he is going to say where he gets his stuff its all comes from over seas

This is like saying "Apple doesn't make iPhones".

They design the phone, write the software for the phone, and then contract a factory to make "Their" product.

Does Apple make phones? Technically; no. But companies DO cut, or fabricate, samples and then send them to different factories for the actual manufacturing under contract. It's THEIR part but they aren't MANUFACTURING anything.

This is a common business practice for most companies.......including the "OE's"

[camtoys1]

amd is a reboxer thats it

[RonG]

No body mentioned MAR-K in OK City?

[CUSTOM/10]

As far as I've heard, Mar-K makes their own step side bed-sides only not fleet-sides.

[5spd540]

I want to swap my step to a fleet. Just need to see what I need for braces for a wood floor on a fleet. I assume someone makes the under floor braces for a conversion from a step to a fleet

[Grumpy old man]

Originally Posted by 5spd540

I want to swap my step to a fleet. Just need to see what I need for braces for a wood floor on a fleet. I assume someone makes the under floor braces for a conversion from a step to a fleet

GR8-68 is building all the wood and just built his fleet bed ,touch base with him for all the inside details

[5spd540]

Originally Posted by Grumpy old man

GR8-68 is building all the wood and just built his fleet bed ,touch base with him for all the inside details

Thanks man

[Tim Christian]

You guys crack me up. I am glad I learned something about aftermarket parts this morning.

[Grumpy old man]

Originally Posted by Tim Christian

You guys crack me up. I am glad I learned something about aftermarket parts this morning.

Enlighten us ? Everyone wants to know the correct story ,Do you know what it is ? we can only go by our own experiences , You should have all the insider knowledge ?

[Auroch]

Originally Posted by 5spd540

Does anyone have any info on goodmark compared to AMD bedsides. I am asking due to I can get goodmark for 200$ less per side

You can't go wrong with Goodmark. I've patched about 30% of my truck with their panels and haven't had a single issue. They perfectly match the old ones and you can tell they use the right gauge of sheet metal. Save your money and use it for buying premium guts.

[KP Jon]

On the lighter side I'll give you a little history on how the first repair panels came to be in Taiwan.

In the late 70's there was a young Italian guy in Albany New York whose parents owned a body shop where he worked. On a whim he went with a buddy of his to a trade show in Manhattan. Seeing some of the exhibitors got his mental wheels turning about how to make some money.

He got talking with a guy from Taiwan and explained that the rocker panels on all of the square bodied trucks were rusting and that they had to repair a lot of them at their shop. He thought if he could get them to make just the part they needed they could sell a lot of them.

The guy told him that for $25,000.00 he could make the tooling and produce them.

The guy went home and pleaded with his parents to loan him the money to do the project. His mom finally gave him the 25K and he sent it off to Taiwan along with samples he cut out.

Months went by with an occasional phone call or letter (No email or fax then) and then those stopped and he realized that he couldn't get in touch with them anymore and thought he might have been fleeced.

He grabbed a passport and plane ticket and took off to Taiwan with no idea how to speak Mandarin and no contacts there. He checked into the Taipei Grand Hotel, got a cab, and set out to the "Factory" that he had met in New York. When he arrived at the factory he found out that his money was gone, there were no parts, no tools, and no real recourse so he returned to the hotel.....completely distraught.

That evening he went down to the front of the hotel for some air. He was overcome with emotion about how he was going to explain to his mother that he'd lost their money. As he sat crying on a bench a well dressed young Taiwanese couple going to the hotel for dinner approached him. the Taiwanese guy didn't speak english and the guy from the US didn't speak Chinese so they got someone to interpret for them. He explained what had happened with his family's money and the Taiwanese guy guy said "Don't worry", "My father makes parts for Toyota", "I will help you".

They had dinner and when he returned to New York he sent this guy new samples. To his word the guy him made the rocker panels (Without paying again for new tooling) and shipped them to NY. The body shop guy found some people in the bumper business that were interested in trying to distribute them. The rockers were a big hit and he started getting feedback about more parts so they did the cab corners, then the upper wheel arches, then fenders............and on and on.

That guy from Taiwan was (Is) named Legion Liao. Almost every factory in this business in Taiwan traces directly back to Legion. They were either people that worked for Legion that opened their own plants, subcontractors that grew into larger factories, etc.

We lost the guy from that body shop a couple years ago but every time a patch panel is installed it's owed to a kid from Albany that had an idea 40 years ago.

[5spd540]

Great story

[KP Jon]

Originally Posted by 5spd540

Great story

Thanks!

Back then one of the more common aftermarket parts in the Northeast were these yellow fiberglass '73-'80 front fenders that used to come out of Canada. Every junkyard in New England carried them.

[5spd540]

It seems everyone has the bed sides on backorder