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Old 02-03-2006, 05:52 PM   #26
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Re: What do you think a reproduced Tow Hook would be worth????

I personally wouldn't think that the market would be that strong. I think that what sells them now for the high prices is the fact that they can not be purchased new and were an original factory option. My personal beliefe is once the are made easely availible people won't want them near as badly. I'll give you an example.... I use to be able to sell original stainless steel tailgate handle covers for $60.00 used, and people were just happy to be able to find one. Now I reproduce them and I have a tough time getting $24.95 for them and they are pollished stainless steel.. I don't think that it drove the price of old originals down any, but seeing how it was an option and not needed for function, they just are not sought after like the originals. Sure I sell a few, but not like a person thinks he should. WES www.ClassicHeartbeat.com
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Old 02-03-2006, 05:58 PM   #27
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Old 02-03-2006, 06:07 PM   #28
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Re: What do you think a reproduced Tow Hook would be worth????

My .002 cents!! I would buy a reasonablly priced set of repros. I would want them to be proven strong. I think of a tow hook in teh eyes of an old winch add or picture. That was a jeep CJ hanging upside down from a tree by a winch line off of a tow hook. With the tug of a tow rig on a stuck truck they better be pretty strong or someones going to get hurt or die. If they are hanging under the bumper you better plan on someone hooking up to it someday. To me I like the "look" and function of original/stock, that is the tough/cool factor until I need it in a bind. if I can get that in a repro. I'm good to go. Same goes for fenders, tachs, steering wheels, etc. Problems we run into in repo. world is bad fit, will not last in sun, sloppy tooling, etc.
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Old 02-03-2006, 06:56 PM   #29
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Re: What do you think a reproduced Tow Hook would be worth????

Yeah they would have to be made with a very high grade of steel with a forging process. Not a backyard shop deal. And you would have to produce hundreds to make it cost effective. Cast ones are easy to make and look pretty but are useless to work with.
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Old 02-03-2006, 11:33 PM   #30
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Re: What do you think a reproduced Tow Hook would be worth????

Thanks guys for the input. I figured some would hate the idea and some would like the idea. The thing anymore is that half of the people that have these will never use them anymore. The whole cast thing would be for the look and thus I would advertise them as such. Anyway, I will see what I can find out. I will let you guys know if anything comes out of this. Once again, thanks guys, this is what it's all about. Take care guys. Trevor
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Old 02-03-2006, 11:53 PM   #31
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Re: What do you think a reproduced Tow Hook would be worth????

Trevor - I'm not trying to rain on your parade, but consider this. You make cast tow hooks, sell them with all kinds of warnings. Joe puts a set on his truck, then sells the truck to Bubba. Bubba goes 4 wheeling and gets stuck. Bubba's girlfriend, Patty, wades through the mud, runs a cable to a tree, around a snatch block and back to the cast tow hook. Patty wades to dry ground while Bubba drives the truck. The hook breaks and the cable cuts patty's leg off.

Who do you think Bubba is going to sue, since Patty can't wade through the mud with a wooden leg?
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Re: What do you think a reproduced Tow Hook would be worth????

I know what your saying. But if I cast something or stamp something on to the product, then technically could I be sued? Wouldn't it be something like the whole Coffee at McDonald's lawsuit? The woman buys the coffee and it spills on her and burns her. Lawyers say that it didn't have a warning on it that the contents would be hot. She makes money and now the cups have warnings on it. If I put a warning of not using off road, wouldn't that suffice? I dont' know and wasn't being a wise ass. I know where all of you are coming from on this. If I made these things... I would want to make them as close to original as possible. I am not sure what it takes as of yet but I was going to talk to my professor about the idea and what he knows about all of the forging cast and what not. We did do forging last year so I have somewhat of a foot wet in the area. Anyway, it wasn't a sure thing, just pretty much if there was a demand for such a thing. From one truck lover to the next. Trevor
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Re: What do you think a reproduced Tow Hook would be worth????

Hey there Wildcat,
Sounds like a pretty good Idea, if for no other reason than to have some available for those of us out there that just want them for the look. And yes like anything else, it would drive the price of the originals down, however If you make a few dollars helping others out getting that matching look, then the more power to you. Go K-State
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Old 02-04-2006, 07:11 AM   #34
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If they were cast and couldn't be used I wouldn't think they would be worth very much. Chris
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Old 02-05-2006, 10:15 AM   #35
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I'm going to have way to much $ in my 72 4x4 to go out and get it stuck in the mud. Smok'in all four on the blacktop will be about it. Would love a pair of good looking repo hooks for about $100.00. go for it, just my take. jeff
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Old 02-05-2006, 10:23 AM   #36
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About .02 cents!!!!!! Oh!! I own a 2-wheel drive!!! LOL!!! J/K make em' and sell em'
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Old 02-05-2006, 01:00 PM   #37
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Make them forged and sell them for a reasonable price. If that price ends up being $100 for the pair that is still way less than the price people are getting on Ebay.

The market is here for these, look at all of us rebuilding these trucks. I have bought more than a couple things just because I could get them new and pretty, not necessarily because it was desperately needed.
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Get a quote from China to make them for you. Price might not be to bad to have forged ones made there.
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My .02: If somebody is going to pay $100 for a set of repro hooks, why wouldn't they just go ahead and pay another $50-$100 for authentic originals. Even with the "tow hook frenzy" going on, I just watched a couple sets sell on ebay for around $200. Just because there are some idiots out there that have paid $500+, doesn't mean that's what every set is going for. If these things were really bringing $500 a pair consistently, then my 7 sets would all be for sale. Well, maybe not all of them. Anybody that wants to pay $500 for any of my tow hooks, including my NOS ones, let me know and they are yours. Hell, I'll pay the shipping.

You would have to be able to sell the repros for at least $100 to make even a little money. You just can't sell enough of them to make it worth your while and you ARE opening yourself up to a potential liability issue. Is that worth it to make what, several hundred to maybe a couple of grand.

There are a lot of people doing these restorations that don't think anything of paying $200 for a tach dash, $400 for a floor shift tilt, etc. They don't give a %$^& about paying $200 or even $400 for a set of tow hooks. So, those guys are not going to be customers.

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If they were ever reproduced,it would kill the value of the original ones.That`s what happens to all parts.
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i say make em and when bob (cheyenne10) trys to hang his truck from a tree branch testing em i wanna be there to watch

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If they were ever reproduced,it would kill the value of the original ones.That`s what happens to all parts.
I STARTED RESTORING THESE TRUCKS IN 1985 , & AN INSTUMENT PANEL BEZEL COST ME $120 THEN.... IT'S $25 NOW. MAYBE THE PRICE DOES NEED TO GO DOWN ON SOME OF THESE PARTS, OTHERWISE ONLY THE WEALTHY PEOPLE WILL BE ABLE TO AFFORD THESE TRUCKS. PEOPLE PAY AN INSANE AMOUNT OF MONEY FOR N.O.S. PARTS, & THE PEOPLE THAT BUY NOS OR OEM PARTS ONLY WILL CONTINUE TO DO SO. REPOP PARTS MAY NOT BE AS WELL MADE OR AS VALUABLE, BUT IT SURE MAKES ALOT OF PARTS AVAILABLE TO ALOT OF TRUCK OWNERS WHO CAN'T AFFORD $500 TOW HOOKS OR $1000 NOS TAC. VAC. I/Ps. JOHN
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If they were ever reproduced,it would kill the value of the original ones.That`s what happens to all parts.
I don't completely buy into that. People still pay top dollar for NOS when repop parts are cheap. Originals are always valued more for most types of parts.
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I guess I am missing the whole point here. To put hooks in my truck, whether I use em or not is not the point. It would be like putting a plastic mock up winch on the front to use a looks to be tow hook. Do we drive these trucks just for looks? Sure they do look cool, but to me it still has to function as originaly intended.
I f you want lookalike hooks that are never intended to be used, just make a mold and shoot some plastic in it !!

I am sorry if I offend anyone here ,but I think we all need to consider the point,
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If I remember correct, I got mine from Northern Tool.
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I don't completely buy into that. People still pay top dollar for NOS when repop parts are cheap. Originals are always valued more for most types of parts.
We`re talkin`used rare parts,not N.O.S.How much are you going to pay for a dull old piece of moulding or emblem when you can buy a new shiney one?How much would you pay if not reproduced?And if you want it perfect,you`ll pay even more to have it refinished,polished/chromed.Why buy a used chrome bumper in #2 condition when you can have a new one for $125.How much is the bumper worth that costs more than $125 to rechrome?Then there`s the,"how can you tell repro from OEM?"thing.
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Another way to go about this would be to repop a functioning forged towhooks in the "reverse" of the extreme bend 72' which points to the pass side. If you did, you would'nt be stepping on anybodys toes as it was never offered and could easily be picked out by the experts. And if you sold em individually some people could afford to buy one and then use one of yours and an oem to have it asthetically match (one pointing each way). And by all means dont do this for free... Make some money at it. You dont see bill gates offering free software.
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I know what your saying. But if I cast something or stamp something on to the product, then technically could I be sued? Wouldn't it be something like the whole Coffee at McDonald's lawsuit? The woman buys the coffee and it spills on her and burns her. Lawyers say that it didn't have a warning on it that the contents would be hot. She makes money and now the cups have warnings on it. If I put a warning of not using off road, wouldn't that suffice? I dont' know and wasn't being a wise ass. I know where all of you are coming from on this. If I made these things... I would want to make them as close to original as possible. I am not sure what it takes as of yet but I was going to talk to my professor about the idea and what he knows about all of the forging cast and what not. We did do forging last year so I have somewhat of a foot wet in the area. Anyway, it wasn't a sure thing, just pretty much if there was a demand for such a thing. From one truck lover to the next. Trevor
Hmm, the old coffee at McDonalds story. My wife read about that case in a class that she had in the past. There is a reason that the woman was paid a large sum of cash. The powers that be at McDonalds knew that their coffee was too hot for consumption. They had been warned that when coffee was poured in the cup and handed straight to a customer that it was dangerously hot. Even though they knew it was dangerous they continued to serve it. This woman wasn't just burned. The lady received 2nd degree burns to her genitals inner thighs and buttocks. For those of you who don't know, a 2nd degree burn causes the skin to bubble up and blister. This woman had to have surgery to repair the damage to her skin. So the moral of the story is if you are doing something dangerous and have been told to stop, STOP, before someone is injured. Mcdonalds just doesn't have a label stateing the coffee is hot, they had to lower the temp to one that was fit for human consumption. Sooo anyway back to the hooks. If you can't make them functional..........probably a bad idea. As far as driving down the value of an original goes.......well are people buying them as investments or because they want tow hooks? I don't personaly want any bad enough to pay big bucks for them. Now if I could buy a set from someone who didn't know what they had for a little of nothing, I would be sporting them on the front of the K10. Good luck my friend. Many a business has been made by seeing a need and filling it!
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They are being bought to show or use (won`t hurt them) on their trucks,which may or may not be an investment.This concept of reproducing hooks was born from the fact that these "rare" parts are going for so much money on Ebay.If reproduced the value of the hooks would be no more than any other tow hook.They wouldn`t be the "rare and valueable" ones.But,most people would buy them rather than pay for authentic ones.The originals will always be rare and worth more,but with the option of repro the price would be lowered.Don`t judge the value of a part because of a bidding frenzy on Ebay.The same hooks were offered on Ebay by a board member and no one bid on them at $400 to start and a "Buy it Now" of $500.Then,I believe,it was the same guy that payed $560 or whatever those record-breakers went for that took them for $400.There`s another board member that in the last year bought some in a junkyard for $20.The ones I have I paid $35 for.To me,a part of the hobby is trying to find rare stuff.Were`s the fun in taking a credit card and just buying everything at the one stop repro shop?
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