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'70 C/10 SS500 · 12-12-2003, 05:34 PM

I posted this topic on a Caddy board and thought I'd send it this way as well! Bare with me on this one, it's an interesting one.....

How about a dual 500/455 motored Vista Cruiser, Safari, or Estate wagon? A 500/Th-425 swap from an Eldorado or 455/Th-425 from a Toronado into the front bay, and then another custom mounted 500/455/TH-425 motor in the rear! Anybody think having 910/1000 cubic inches and traction to boot sounds good? Weight distribution should be good as well. How does that sound for a wicked sleeper car? What do you think driving around 1000+ ft/lbs of torque and 4WD would be like?

Personally, I'd like to have a '70 Pontiac Sport Safari done up as a GTO Judge, but mine would say "THE JUDGE, JURY, & EXECUTIONER" (Probably been done a million times, but still cool)

I think a '68 Olds Cutlass Wagon with beautiful black paint and modern wheels/bige wide tire would be pretty darn cool too! 1000 or so c.i.d. would be fun too!

Yes, I know, no mention of a Caddy wagon. It would be VERY cool, but very hard to locate one as well.

What do you guys think?

1969 GMC · 12-12-2003, 05:39 PM

i think matching the engine rpm and final gearing would be interesting. i just don't think it would work.

Chris H · 12-12-2003, 05:51 PM

link here

724x4a/cchevy · 12-12-2003, 06:17 PM

im not a mopar man, but that is AWSOME!!!

cdowns · 12-12-2003, 06:18 PM

wet dream

**old Rusty C10** · 12-12-2003, 06:22 PM

i think its nuts but hey if ya want to build it , got the money time and inclination go for it its gonna be a hell of alot of fabricating etc and most of its gonna be all custom work but if ya want to go for it

smokekiki · 12-12-2003, 06:28 PM

There were a few wagons built with the GTO Nose from the factory.Pretty rare!

dinnut · 12-12-2003, 10:12 PM

you would have to build the engines EXACTLY THE SAME and it would be really hard to get everything the same front and rear. if one became slower than the other kiss the other diff goodbye

jimfulco · 12-13-2003, 04:55 AM

It'd catch up, kinda like coasting, I guess.

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PanelDeland · 12-13-2003, 04:26 PM

Do a search for Hurst Hairy Olds.If you still want to try it after researchin that, remember the most used last words of the south,"Hold my beer and watch this!!"

'70 C/10 SS500 · 12-14-2003, 09:05 PM

I've been thinking about this idea for many months now. I have thought about many different vehicles for would-be 4WD 1000cid monster conversions. Dare I tell you all that I even thought about a 67'-72'? Don't hate me, it was just an idea!!!!!

How about an Elky? ('70-'72 though)

I'm sure many of you have seen this one before:

ABHaulR · 12-14-2003, 10:35 PM

hey, l'll have to dig up the pics but a few years ago i built a 86 toyota pu and put a 486BB chevy nos and a predator carb. in the bed. ran 35 goodyear wranglers on the rear. the thing ran like stripped a## ape. the exhaust was a set of chrome dry stack headers from a boat. it was built for the great american tractor race in temecula,ca. it was good fun.
Dwayne

crazy4chevs · 12-14-2003, 11:35 PM

A friend told me a story about a OLDS toranado that pulled into the full service at a gas station parked, and asked the attendant to check the oil. The guy poped the hood and the carb was missing. He looked at the guy funny and told him. the guy shut the hood started it up and drove off. (he had the dual setup that you are talking about. pretty funny

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Baradium · 12-15-2003, 12:02 AM

That'd almost be as hard to tune as the napier engine that had three crankshafts... with 6 cylinders each geared together into one output....

And to top it out it was a diesel engine with TWO pistons per cylinder. It is the WEIRDEST looking engine I've sever seen... cranks in a triangle setting with pistons that go on each end of the cylinder to compress... ports are in the sides of the cylinders.

Their most complicated engine though was the 12 cylinder, horizontally opposed, turbo diesel, turbine engine... yes, a piston diesel engine that shared outputs with a turbine engine... or more realistically the turbine engine provided turbo boost as well as being geared directly to the diesel engine... also had the highest thermal efficiency of any engine... a whopping 65%! Compared to like 20%-30% for a car motor.

krazy_texan · 12-15-2003, 12:35 AM

I have seen a big block shoved into the back of a geo tracker

12-12-2003, 05:34 PM	#1
'70 C/10 SS500 Registered User Join Date: Jun 2003 Location: Chandler, AZ Posts: 130	What do you think of this idea? I posted this topic on a Caddy board and thought I'd send it this way as well! Bare with me on this one, it's an interesting one..... How about a dual 500/455 motored Vista Cruiser, Safari, or Estate wagon? A 500/Th-425 swap from an Eldorado or 455/Th-425 from a Toronado into the front bay, and then another custom mounted 500/455/TH-425 motor in the rear! Anybody think having 910/1000 cubic inches and traction to boot sounds good? Weight distribution should be good as well. How does that sound for a wicked sleeper car? What do you think driving around 1000+ ft/lbs of torque and 4WD would be like? Personally, I'd like to have a '70 Pontiac Sport Safari done up as a GTO Judge, but mine would say "THE JUDGE, JURY, & EXECUTIONER" (Probably been done a million times, but still cool) I think a '68 Olds Cutlass Wagon with beautiful black paint and modern wheels/bige wide tire would be pretty darn cool too! 1000 or so c.i.d. would be fun too! Yes, I know, no mention of a Caddy wagon. It would be VERY cool, but very hard to locate one as well. What do you guys think?

12-12-2003, 05:39 PM	#2
1969 GMC Registered User Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: The Rubber City Posts: 5,498	i think matching the engine rpm and final gearing would be interesting. i just don't think it would work. __________________ 1969 GMC K2500 1996 Honda Accord 2007 Kawasaki KLR 650

12-12-2003, 05:51 PM	#3
Chris H 72 C30 Trailer Queen Join Date: Dec 1999 Location: SE MN, USA Posts: 794	alrady been done... link here

12-12-2003, 06:17 PM	#4
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12-12-2003, 06:18 PM	#5
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12-12-2003, 06:22 PM	#6
old Rusty C10 Robert Olson Transport Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: recent transplant to NC USA Posts: 20,276	i think its nuts but hey if ya want to build it , got the money time and inclination go for it its gonna be a hell of alot of fabricating etc and most of its gonna be all custom work but if ya want to go for it __________________ Bob 1951 International running on a squarebody chassis "If a man's worth is judged by the people he associates himself with, then i am the richest man in the world knowing some of the fine people of this board" http://67-72chevytrucks.com/vboard/a...t.php?f=25&a=9 (you can review the site rules here!) PM Me for your vehicle/parts hauling needs in the North East US or see my Facebook page Robert Olson Transport Live each day to the fullest.. you never know when fate is going to pull the rug out from under you... I hate cancer!!

12-12-2003, 06:28 PM	#7
smokekiki Mike Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: west chester pa Posts: 2,474	There were a few wagons built with the GTO Nose from the factory.Pretty rare! __________________ 70'c/10, 71 suburban4x4 402bb, 72suburban 4/6 drop, 72k/5 4x4 blazer 4" lift 35 tires

12-12-2003, 10:12 PM	#8
dinnut Registered User Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: missouri city, tx Posts: 4,486	you would have to build the engines EXACTLY THE SAME and it would be really hard to get everything the same front and rear. if one became slower than the other kiss the other diff goodbye __________________ 70 longbed 496/th400/Ford 9"

12-13-2003, 04:55 AM	#9
jimfulco Registered User Join Date: May 2003 Location: Shreveport LA Posts: 3,170	It'd catch up, kinda like coasting, I guess. http://diecastfast.com/Merchant2/mer...gory_Code=RVHY http://www.moslerauto.com/mosautoweb...n_announce.htm Last edited by jimfulco; 12-13-2003 at 04:59 AM.

12-13-2003, 04:26 PM	#10
PanelDeland I am a Referee of life. Join Date: Jun 2000 Location: Greensboro N.C. Posts: 13,993	Do a search for Hurst Hairy Olds.If you still want to try it after researchin that, remember the most used last words of the south,"Hold my beer and watch this!!" __________________ The 47-present Chevrolet and GMC Truck Message Board Network,it's owners,moderators,members,and associates of any type should not be held responsible for my opinion. You can't fix stupid,not even with duct tape. "My appearance is due to the fact that "GOD" does punish you for having too much fun!" Barrett-Jackson has perfected alchemy,they make rust into gold! "You can lead a horse to water but you can't saddle a duck" "Cleverly disguised as a 'Responsible Adult' "Sometimes your Knight in shining armor is just a retard in tinfoil"

12-14-2003, 09:05 PM	#11
'70 C/10 SS500 Registered User Join Date: Jun 2003 Location: Chandler, AZ Posts: 130	Info I've been thinking about this idea for many months now. I have thought about many different vehicles for would-be 4WD 1000cid monster conversions. Dare I tell you all that I even thought about a 67'-72'? Don't hate me, it was just an idea!!!!! How about an Elky? ('70-'72 though) I'm sure many of you have seen this one before: Attached Images Last edited by '70 C/10 SS500; 12-14-2003 at 09:15 PM.

12-14-2003, 10:35 PM	#12
ABHaulR Registered User Join Date: Jun 2003 Location: West Valley City, Ut Posts: 311	hey, l'll have to dig up the pics but a few years ago i built a 86 toyota pu and put a 486BB chevy nos and a predator carb. in the bed. ran 35 goodyear wranglers on the rear. the thing ran like stripped a## ape. the exhaust was a set of chrome dry stack headers from a boat. it was built for the great american tractor race in temecula,ca. it was good fun. Dwayne __________________ 72' GMC Suburban 10 1/2" of Lift, 40" Tires! Waiting for restoration 67' Chevy, What to do??? And Bad Ass American Bulldogs!

12-14-2003, 11:35 PM	#13
crazy4chevs Registered User Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Des Moines WA. (Kent, area) Posts: 668	A friend told me a story about a OLDS toranado that pulled into the full service at a gas station parked, and asked the attendant to check the oil. The guy poped the hood and the carb was missing. He looked at the guy funny and told him. the guy shut the hood started it up and drove off. (he had the dual setup that you are talking about. pretty funny ) __________________ 70 chev c10 swb fleet 72 grill, sb 400, 2/4 drop. 68 chev c10 swb fleet Early classic 4/6 drop with 4wheel disc brakes 9"rear 67-8 buckets tilt and A/C Classic GM Truck Club of Washington .

12-15-2003, 12:02 AM	#14
Baradium Binder Rep Join Date: Jan 2001 Location: Salcha, AK Posts: 1,506	That'd almost be as hard to tune as the napier engine that had three crankshafts... with 6 cylinders each geared together into one output.... And to top it out it was a diesel engine with TWO pistons per cylinder. It is the WEIRDEST looking engine I've sever seen... cranks in a triangle setting with pistons that go on each end of the cylinder to compress... ports are in the sides of the cylinders. Their most complicated engine though was the 12 cylinder, horizontally opposed, turbo diesel, turbine engine... yes, a piston diesel engine that shared outputs with a turbine engine... or more realistically the turbine engine provided turbo boost as well as being geared directly to the diesel engine... also had the highest thermal efficiency of any engine... a whopping 65%! Compared to like 20%-30% for a car motor.

12-15-2003, 12:35 AM	#15
krazy_texan Registered User Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: West Des Moines, Ia Posts: 3,233	I have seen a big block shoved into the back of a geo tracker __________________ Krazy Texan My Trucks are made with Wrenches not Chop Sticks 1967 GMC 3/4 ton "Johnny Cash" 1990 v1500 suburban 1967 Ford f100 Swb 4x4 "green bean" GOD BLESS JESUS, JOHN WAYNE, AND THE ALAMO



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