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silvereagle07 · 11-27-2009, 08:48 AM

Congrats Dennis on the score! You guys are making me jealous. Now I want an LS engine.

Driveway Dreams · 11-27-2009, 11:10 PM

Dennis, either keep the covers and paint them up nice! Or you could do something like this from a Nomad the shop I used to work at built.

You gotta do away with the Caddy emblem on there though. Just doesn't fit with your truck, you know?

3 of the engine and 1 of the car.

SBTork · 11-27-2009, 11:54 PM

A Big

to you man!

I know this is big, given the issues you've been going through Im truly happy you could get this part done. Slow and steady is fine, just keep us in mind and document it well, take A LOT of pictures. Thanks to you and Bob, i've decided to do a 5.3-5 speed out of a newer silverado for my '82 C-10. It will be spring before I start shopping for a drivetrain, but I still can't wait. Way to go guy.

menace121978 · 11-28-2009, 11:29 AM

thanks alot Tork!!! and thanks for the pics Gerald! the caddy emblem has to go.

check it out... got her home yesterday with the help of friends before it started raining

i'm going to tear into it today and start cleaning and preping. Ed, start the clock

begining87 · 11-28-2009, 12:16 PM

Great attention to detail! Keep your build dreams alive. Nothing says the build has to be done in a day. Because of your family history and attachment to the truck nothing short of what you want it to be, will do. Happy to see you got the engine and trans match you were looking for from the beginning. Keep up the great work.

Driveway Dreams · 11-28-2009, 12:40 PM

Rock on!

Must feel great to have it at home.
Oh, BTW, the hat is awesome!

menace121978 · 11-28-2009, 10:05 PM

well day 1 w/ the motor. stripping everything off and getting ready for paint. also popped off a valve cover to take a peek in there. really clean!

here's the famous "6.0 stamp picture!"

harness

took the intake off. kinda dirty...

menace121978 · 11-28-2009, 10:13 PM

here i'm starting to tape off all the intake holes and exhaust holes so i can clean really good.

thats where i stopped tonight. i still want to take off the water pump, flexplate and torque converter so i can get it on an engine stand and really go to town cleaning it.

now tell me what you think... i'm just going to clean it up with a ton of rags and towels with carb cleaner. no water... and spray it with an etch primer. what color paint?? ive been tossing around the idea of all body color(burgandy) or even orange? when i say all im thinking heads and block. with all the accesories silver to match the chassis. ideas??

STOCKISH · 11-28-2009, 11:33 PM

Glad to see you got it home bud. Congrats. I think body color sounds cool. Maybe just the block though and leave the heads silver. Or go all out and polish everything.

Driveway Dreams · 11-29-2009, 12:51 AM

How bout the opposite...Silver with body color accessories? Just a thought. It would brighten up the engine bay a bit.

menace121978 · 11-29-2009, 01:25 AM

you got me really thinking now buddy. if i remember right Bob was kinda disappointed the red block didnt show good after everything was bolted on..... you thinking the alt., alt. bracket and everything?

Driveway Dreams · 11-29-2009, 12:18 PM

Exactly. Do your block and heads in a bright silver. Then do everything else in the Maroon. That way it brightens up the engine bay and keeps the colors connected with the truck.

menace121978 · 11-29-2009, 09:10 PM

got a little more done today. finished stripping down the accesories, taping holes and getting a few coats of etch primer on.

took Geralds advice and painted it up with the brightest silver engine paint i could find. (aluminum)

painted the crank pulley too.

turned out really nice and clean looking. i spent at least 6-8 hours cleaning and preping. 1 bummer though i need to get ahold of another cherry picker so i can lift the motor up and clean and paint the oil pan.

SBTork · 11-29-2009, 09:14 PM

I could bring an engine hoist by for ya, give me a couple hours though

Really nice progress man, im diggin the aluminum finish!

menace121978 · 11-29-2009, 09:21 PM

i tagged and bagged all the bolts i've taken off and taken a ton of pics so i wont have extra parts laying around

i bought new water pump gaskets...

i also wrestled with this damn thing for what seemed like hours trying to get the clutch fan off. i tried every trick i know and still couldnt get it. even bought a strap wrench and broke it!! not sure what i'm gonna do with it yet. if the speciality tool cost as much as a new pump well i guess i'll get a new pump

intake...

also got the returnless fuel rail out of a '06 esky. the injectors look brand new compared to the ones off my intake.

thats about it for now. thinking i might paint the accesories black to match the chassis work and just have the 3 covers painted body color to tie everything in.

please excuse the mess guys... the garage looks like a bomb went off according to my little helper Wyatt. (neighbor kid) and i'm running outta room!!

v502 · 11-29-2009, 11:11 PM

WOoooOW Denice congrats

your getting busy my friend the engine looks really nice and clean.
Good choice with engine color i got the same suggestion and i doing it cuz i saw yours

.
Thats alot of work for couple of days your the man.

Yeah and a reminder don't get different steering pump lines cuz your old one's will fit to the 6.o steering pump.
It seems like GM didn't change how the pump internals work or lines they just made it look different i using my old fuel lines too.

I get you more details on Monday on what they kept from my old truck and what was needed to be change. Hopefully it will save you some money.

menace121978 · 11-29-2009, 11:26 PM

apprieciate all the info you can pass along!
ive been over on performance trucks and ls1 truck for days and days reading!

KQQL IT · 11-29-2009, 11:38 PM

My brother and i put a 6.2l escalade cam in his 5.3 and it run awesome for a 5.3in a 'burban.

STOCKISH · 11-29-2009, 11:44 PM

If your truck is lowered you will likely want to use a F-body or Cadillac CTS-V oil pan anyway. The truck pan will hang below the crossmember by a couple inches. At least you wont need to paint the truck pan if you go that way. Also, you know the fan clutch is reverse thread right? Hate to see you trying to remove it normally and actually be tightening it.

By the way, did I already say I am jealous?

Driveway Dreams · 11-30-2009, 12:16 AM

Looks great man! That is the perfect color. Now, hurry, you are running out of time to get it in the truck!

You gonna smooth the engine covers for paint? Give me a call if you want some help.

80chevyshortbox · 11-30-2009, 12:16 AM

thats so sick. congrats on finally getting your motor lol. that is gona be so nice. have you done any more work to the fire wall?

bluex · 11-30-2009, 02:24 AM

On the cherry picker.

Northern tool has one on sale untill dec 5 for $159. It is the 2 ton with a free engine load leveler. In store deal only though. Got one saturday myself...
http://www.northerntool.com/webapp/w...5213_200305213

On the clutch fan. I have heard people will take an air hammer on the softest setting and that will break it loose so you can remove it.

Progress looks great. Glad to see your back at it.

draggin86 · 11-30-2009, 04:38 AM

you can barrow my picker if you need to.. let me know..

mike nutt · 11-30-2009, 08:19 AM

summit racing sells a gm performance muscle car pan kit for the ls motor that works on most any ls conversion. here's a link http://www.summitracing.com/parts/NAL-19212593/ here's a link to jeg's , it's cheaper http://www.jegs.com/i/GM+Performance...12593/10002/-1

JohnC · 11-30-2009, 09:41 AM

Looks awesome man! Great choice on the color combo. The silver with the red accents will look good in there.

11-27-2009, 08:48 AM	#401
silvereagle07 Registered User Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: Bailey, NC Posts: 2,462	Re: Finally "Silvers" build thread!! ('78 swb 2wd silverado) Congrats Dennis on the score! You guys are making me jealous. Now I want an LS engine. __________________ Jeramy '84 GMC project truck '85 Chevy 4X4 SOLD '07 Chevy Trailblazer SS 5th Annual SHPHC Car/Truck Show Pics http://67-72chevytrucks.com/vboard/s...d.php?t=543605 UPDATED PICS! CHECK 'EM OUT Last edited by silvereagle07; 11-27-2009 at 08:49 AM.

11-27-2009, 11:10 PM	#402
Driveway Dreams I have car A.D.D. Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: Greeley, Northern Colorado Posts: 4,147	Re: Finally "Silvers" build thread!! ('78 swb 2wd silverado) Dennis, either keep the covers and paint them up nice! Or you could do something like this from a Nomad the shop I used to work at built. You gotta do away with the Caddy emblem on there though. Just doesn't fit with your truck, you know? 3 of the engine and 1 of the car. Attached Images __________________ -Gerald Building vehicles in memory of the first "car guy" I ever knew, my Grandpa. Bob Dunham 1935-2009. Rest in peace. 61 GMC Suburban SOLD The 86 build thread SOLD Are you a Colorado member?Click here.

11-27-2009, 11:54 PM	#403
SBTork Garage wrench Join Date: Feb 2008 Location: LaCrosse, WI Posts: 1,855	Re: Finally "Silvers" build thread!! ('78 swb 2wd silverado) A Big to you man! I know this is big, given the issues you've been going through Im truly happy you could get this part done. Slow and steady is fine, just keep us in mind and document it well, take A LOT of pictures. Thanks to you and Bob, i've decided to do a 5.3-5 speed out of a newer silverado for my '82 C-10. It will be spring before I start shopping for a drivetrain, but I still can't wait. Way to go guy. __________________ -Adam 90 V1500 GMC Suburban 350/700R4/NP241..... 01 Saturn SL1 stock DD.....

11-28-2009, 11:29 AM	#404
menace121978 Registered User Join Date: Jan 2009 Location: orangevale, ca Posts: 3,626	Re: Finally "Silvers" build thread!! ('78 swb 2wd silverado) thanks alot Tork!!! and thanks for the pics Gerald! the caddy emblem has to go. check it out... got her home yesterday with the help of friends before it started raining i'm going to tear into it today and start cleaning and preping. Ed, start the clock __________________ "Dennis the Menace" 1978 Silverado (2wd, 1/2 ton, short bed)complete nut & bolt frame off restomod LQ9/4L80E MY LS SWAP/FRAME OFF BUILD BOOK 2006 TBSS way too much to list

11-28-2009, 12:16 PM	#405
begining87 Registered User Join Date: Sep 2009 Location: tx Posts: 59	Re: Finally "Silvers" build thread!! ('78 swb 2wd silverado) Great attention to detail! Keep your build dreams alive. Nothing says the build has to be done in a day. Because of your family history and attachment to the truck nothing short of what you want it to be, will do. Happy to see you got the engine and trans match you were looking for from the beginning. Keep up the great work.

11-28-2009, 12:40 PM	#406
Driveway Dreams I have car A.D.D. Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: Greeley, Northern Colorado Posts: 4,147	Re: Finally "Silvers" build thread!! ('78 swb 2wd silverado) Rock on! Must feel great to have it at home. Oh, BTW, the hat is awesome! __________________ -Gerald Building vehicles in memory of the first "car guy" I ever knew, my Grandpa. Bob Dunham 1935-2009. Rest in peace. 61 GMC Suburban SOLD The 86 build thread SOLD Are you a Colorado member?Click here.

11-28-2009, 10:05 PM	#407
menace121978 Registered User Join Date: Jan 2009 Location: orangevale, ca Posts: 3,626	Re: Finally "Silvers" build thread!! ('78 swb 2wd silverado) well day 1 w/ the motor. stripping everything off and getting ready for paint. also popped off a valve cover to take a peek in there. really clean! here's the famous "6.0 stamp picture!" harness took the intake off. kinda dirty... __________________ "Dennis the Menace" 1978 Silverado (2wd, 1/2 ton, short bed)complete nut & bolt frame off restomod LQ9/4L80E MY LS SWAP/FRAME OFF BUILD BOOK 2006 TBSS way too much to list

11-28-2009, 10:13 PM	#408
menace121978 Registered User Join Date: Jan 2009 Location: orangevale, ca Posts: 3,626	Re: Finally "Silvers" build thread!! ('78 swb 2wd silverado) here i'm starting to tape off all the intake holes and exhaust holes so i can clean really good. thats where i stopped tonight. i still want to take off the water pump, flexplate and torque converter so i can get it on an engine stand and really go to town cleaning it. now tell me what you think... i'm just going to clean it up with a ton of rags and towels with carb cleaner. no water... and spray it with an etch primer. what color paint?? ive been tossing around the idea of all body color(burgandy) or even orange? when i say all im thinking heads and block. with all the accesories silver to match the chassis. ideas?? __________________ "Dennis the Menace" 1978 Silverado (2wd, 1/2 ton, short bed)complete nut & bolt frame off restomod LQ9/4L80E MY LS SWAP/FRAME OFF BUILD BOOK 2006 TBSS way too much to list

11-28-2009, 11:33 PM	#409
STOCKISH Formerly- 1972SuperCheyenne Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: Wake Forest NC Posts: 5,782	Re: Finally "Silvers" build thread!! ('78 swb 2wd silverado) Glad to see you got it home bud. Congrats. I think body color sounds cool. Maybe just the block though and leave the heads silver. Or go all out and polish everything. __________________ --Josh My Build Thread:http://67-72chevytrucks.com/vboard/s...d.php?t=799218 A good crossthread is better than Loctite any day. Life is not about what you have, but who you have to share it with.

11-29-2009, 12:51 AM	#410
Driveway Dreams I have car A.D.D. Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: Greeley, Northern Colorado Posts: 4,147	Re: Finally "Silvers" build thread!! ('78 swb 2wd silverado) How bout the opposite...Silver with body color accessories? Just a thought. It would brighten up the engine bay a bit. __________________ -Gerald Building vehicles in memory of the first "car guy" I ever knew, my Grandpa. Bob Dunham 1935-2009. Rest in peace. 61 GMC Suburban SOLD The 86 build thread SOLD Are you a Colorado member?Click here.

11-29-2009, 01:25 AM	#411
menace121978 Registered User Join Date: Jan 2009 Location: orangevale, ca Posts: 3,626	Re: Finally "Silvers" build thread!! ('78 swb 2wd silverado) you got me really thinking now buddy. if i remember right Bob was kinda disappointed the red block didnt show good after everything was bolted on..... you thinking the alt., alt. bracket and everything? __________________ "Dennis the Menace" 1978 Silverado (2wd, 1/2 ton, short bed)complete nut & bolt frame off restomod LQ9/4L80E MY LS SWAP/FRAME OFF BUILD BOOK 2006 TBSS way too much to list

11-29-2009, 12:18 PM	#412
Driveway Dreams I have car A.D.D. Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: Greeley, Northern Colorado Posts: 4,147	Re: Finally "Silvers" build thread!! ('78 swb 2wd silverado) Exactly. Do your block and heads in a bright silver. Then do everything else in the Maroon. That way it brightens up the engine bay and keeps the colors connected with the truck. __________________ -Gerald Building vehicles in memory of the first "car guy" I ever knew, my Grandpa. Bob Dunham 1935-2009. Rest in peace. 61 GMC Suburban SOLD The 86 build thread SOLD Are you a Colorado member?Click here.

11-29-2009, 09:10 PM	#413
menace121978 Registered User Join Date: Jan 2009 Location: orangevale, ca Posts: 3,626	Re: Finally "Silvers" build thread!! ('78 swb 2wd silverado) got a little more done today. finished stripping down the accesories, taping holes and getting a few coats of etch primer on. took Geralds advice and painted it up with the brightest silver engine paint i could find. (aluminum) painted the crank pulley too. turned out really nice and clean looking. i spent at least 6-8 hours cleaning and preping. 1 bummer though i need to get ahold of another cherry picker so i can lift the motor up and clean and paint the oil pan. __________________ "Dennis the Menace" 1978 Silverado (2wd, 1/2 ton, short bed)complete nut & bolt frame off restomod LQ9/4L80E MY LS SWAP/FRAME OFF BUILD BOOK 2006 TBSS way too much to list

11-29-2009, 09:14 PM	#414
SBTork Garage wrench Join Date: Feb 2008 Location: LaCrosse, WI Posts: 1,855	Re: Finally "Silvers" build thread!! ('78 swb 2wd silverado) I could bring an engine hoist by for ya, give me a couple hours though Really nice progress man, im diggin the aluminum finish! __________________ -Adam 90 V1500 GMC Suburban 350/700R4/NP241..... 01 Saturn SL1 stock DD.....

11-29-2009, 09:21 PM	#415
menace121978 Registered User Join Date: Jan 2009 Location: orangevale, ca Posts: 3,626	Re: Finally "Silvers" build thread!! ('78 swb 2wd silverado) i tagged and bagged all the bolts i've taken off and taken a ton of pics so i wont have extra parts laying around i bought new water pump gaskets... i also wrestled with this damn thing for what seemed like hours trying to get the clutch fan off. i tried every trick i know and still couldnt get it. even bought a strap wrench and broke it!! not sure what i'm gonna do with it yet. if the speciality tool cost as much as a new pump well i guess i'll get a new pump intake... also got the returnless fuel rail out of a '06 esky. the injectors look brand new compared to the ones off my intake. thats about it for now. thinking i might paint the accesories black to match the chassis work and just have the 3 covers painted body color to tie everything in. please excuse the mess guys... the garage looks like a bomb went off according to my little helper Wyatt. (neighbor kid) and i'm running outta room!! __________________ "Dennis the Menace" 1978 Silverado (2wd, 1/2 ton, short bed)complete nut & bolt frame off restomod LQ9/4L80E MY LS SWAP/FRAME OFF BUILD BOOK 2006 TBSS way too much to list Last edited by menace121978; 11-29-2009 at 09:27 PM.



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11-29-2009, 11:11 PM	#416
v502 Registered User Join Date: Oct 2009 Location: Portland, OR Posts: 198	Re: Finally "Silvers" build thread!! ('78 swb 2wd silverado) WOoooOW Denice congrats your getting busy my friend the engine looks really nice and clean. Good choice with engine color i got the same suggestion and i doing it cuz i saw yours . Thats alot of work for couple of days your the man. Yeah and a reminder don't get different steering pump lines cuz your old one's will fit to the 6.o steering pump. It seems like GM didn't change how the pump internals work or lines they just made it look different i using my old fuel lines too. I get you more details on Monday on what they kept from my old truck and what was needed to be change. Hopefully it will save you some money. __________________ C10 Stepside Swap with 6.2 L92 & 6SP Auto 6L90 "Brain Check" Project Last edited by v502; 11-29-2009 at 11:13 PM.

11-29-2009, 11:26 PM	#417
menace121978 Registered User Join Date: Jan 2009 Location: orangevale, ca Posts: 3,626	Re: Finally "Silvers" build thread!! ('78 swb 2wd silverado) apprieciate all the info you can pass along! ive been over on performance trucks and ls1 truck for days and days reading! __________________ "Dennis the Menace" 1978 Silverado (2wd, 1/2 ton, short bed)complete nut & bolt frame off restomod LQ9/4L80E MY LS SWAP/FRAME OFF BUILD BOOK 2006 TBSS way too much to list

11-29-2009, 11:38 PM	#418
KQQL IT At the body shop. Join Date: Aug 2009 Location: Land of fruits and nuts. Posts: 5,165	Re: Finally "Silvers" build thread!! ('78 swb 2wd silverado) My brother and i put a 6.2l escalade cam in his 5.3 and it run awesome for a 5.3in a 'burban. __________________ " That didnt make it any newer " " Dont antique the equipment "

11-29-2009, 11:44 PM	#419
STOCKISH Formerly- 1972SuperCheyenne Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: Wake Forest NC Posts: 5,782	Re: Finally "Silvers" build thread!! ('78 swb 2wd silverado) If your truck is lowered you will likely want to use a F-body or Cadillac CTS-V oil pan anyway. The truck pan will hang below the crossmember by a couple inches. At least you wont need to paint the truck pan if you go that way. Also, you know the fan clutch is reverse thread right? Hate to see you trying to remove it normally and actually be tightening it. By the way, did I already say I am jealous? __________________ --Josh My Build Thread:http://67-72chevytrucks.com/vboard/s...d.php?t=799218 A good crossthread is better than Loctite any day. Life is not about what you have, but who you have to share it with.

11-30-2009, 12:16 AM	#420
Driveway Dreams I have car A.D.D. Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: Greeley, Northern Colorado Posts: 4,147	Re: Finally "Silvers" build thread!! ('78 swb 2wd silverado) Looks great man! That is the perfect color. Now, hurry, you are running out of time to get it in the truck! You gonna smooth the engine covers for paint? Give me a call if you want some help. __________________ -Gerald Building vehicles in memory of the first "car guy" I ever knew, my Grandpa. Bob Dunham 1935-2009. Rest in peace. 61 GMC Suburban SOLD The 86 build thread SOLD Are you a Colorado member?Click here.

11-30-2009, 12:16 AM	#421
80chevyshortbox Registered User Join Date: Jun 2009 Location: lethbridge Posts: 269	Re: Finally "Silvers" build thread!! ('78 swb 2wd silverado) thats so sick. congrats on finally getting your motor lol. that is gona be so nice. have you done any more work to the fire wall?

11-30-2009, 02:24 AM	#422
bluex Registered User Join Date: Jun 2004 Location: Spartanburg, SC Posts: 1,963	Re: Finally "Silvers" build thread!! ('78 swb 2wd silverado) On the cherry picker. Northern tool has one on sale untill dec 5 for $159. It is the 2 ton with a free engine load leveler. In store deal only though. Got one saturday myself... http://www.northerntool.com/webapp/w...5213_200305213 On the clutch fan. I have heard people will take an air hammer on the softest setting and that will break it loose so you can remove it. Progress looks great. Glad to see your back at it. __________________ Paul '78 GMC Serria 15 Heavy Half. 361/NV3500/3.73. Former LWB NV3500 swap Trailing arm swap '98 ECSB Z71 daily driver -traded '03 burb. Family cruiser http://upstategmtrucks.com/

11-30-2009, 04:38 AM	#423
draggin86 Registered User Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: Folsom, Ca Posts: 573	Re: Finally "Silvers" build thread!! ('78 swb 2wd silverado) you can barrow my picker if you need to.. let me know..

11-30-2009, 08:19 AM	#424
mike nutt 69fatmotor Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: bama Posts: 660	Re: Finally "Silvers" build thread!! ('78 swb 2wd silverado) summit racing sells a gm performance muscle car pan kit for the ls motor that works on most any ls conversion. here's a link http://www.summitracing.com/parts/NAL-19212593/ here's a link to jeg's , it's cheaper http://www.jegs.com/i/GM+Performance...12593/10002/-1 Last edited by mike nutt; 11-30-2009 at 08:26 AM.

11-30-2009, 09:41 AM	#425
JohnC Registered User Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: Oklahoma Posts: 7,461	Re: Finally "Silvers" build thread!! ('78 swb 2wd silverado) Looks awesome man! Great choice on the color combo. The silver with the red accents will look good in there.

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