Project' 69 c10 aka sin.

[threeonthetree]

that could be
but i have been jumping it with my truck.. when i starts to get low
i got the bat on a charge right now.

aand the starter hasn't really given us that much grief.
would it be worth it to pull my HEI and put it in this car to see if that would help?

[Hard Luck]

Pretty cool. Looks like you got a whole car family there. You have been doing nice work.

About the inline you are working on now. Take it slow and check your work. Did you pull off the timing cover and check the gears? With some of the problems you are having, pull off the side covers and check the puch rods. You should be able to rotate them slightly with the valve closed, if not, the rockets are too tight.

Next is the ignition. If you at TDC on #1 and have the rotor pointed dead at that cyl to fire, that is a 0 degree advance. I do not know any engines that run at 0. That is also why you get a backfire through the carb. The mix is igniting too soon and the intake valve is still open. That would indicate the timing should be retarted.

Lastly, how did you unstick the valves? If you left the head assembled and cleaned them that way, they may not be sealing. If you dissasemble the heads, clean and slightly polish the valve stems, and have the valve seats checked (make sure none are loose or are not allowing the valves to close because of the heavy carbon deposits [the junk you found at the top of the pistons]) that would ensure the head is good to go. You may not need to do all of this, but if you do, now you know.

Just keep up the good work. The good thing is you have a few projects, if you get too frustated with this engine, spend some time on the truck, or suspension on the car, or whatever. Just take a break from it for a little bit. Think about the problem and do a little research and attack it again with a cool head.

[threeonthetree]

Alright guys problem solved
this morning i went out and tired to see if i had compression with that gauge we rented. test the first valve nothing no reading. i thought the gauge was bad.. tested another plug nothing... so i tought about looseing up the valves. turned them once around and tested again compression... somthing was wrong with the way the book was telling me to set my rockers. they said crank them till you can't spin the rocker in your hand then one more crank around...

well set the timing with the light based on the harmonic balancer and bang it fired right up... wwwwwwwwwooooooooooooooooohhhhhhhhhhhhooooooooooooooooo !!!!!

lots of time wasteeed.. cause i dont have a compression gauge. but all good in the end. my cousin and i where just driving it and it runs alright burns a fair amount of oil but not bad ahaha.. oil change is next on the list.

thats all for now

[threeonthetree]

thanks everybody that gave me some advice.
and i learned alot on this project
i think im gonna drive it to school one of these days. the gas tank works

[threeonthetree]

so now im wondering what is the right way to tune the valves if the book was wrong.

and the parking brake works so im gonna pull the master cylinder off and rebuild it. or see what is wrong with it.

thing drives and stops with the parking brake.

[threeonthetree]

oh yes and i am also wondering what trans is in this old girl
cause unfortunately it is not original. It has D-2-1 when you shift it on the column. but i haven't got it up to speed to see how many gears the trans actually runs threw.
no way it could be a 2 spd power-glide... did gm make another 3 spd power-glide that this motor would have been bolted up to. or could this be a turbo or r4. numbers i should look for??

I also read that the old stove-bolt 235's, and this 3rd gen 6 (230) have different bell housings is that true?

[threeonthetree]

Hey guys.
My old man is really warming up to this car..
Bringing back some memories he had of his dads 64 impala.
So he decided to get a new set of rims and tires, new used where going to get them now.
Also we replace one line on the rear that was bad, and now the master cylinder is all torn apart I think we need a new one.
But all is good with the 230.
Can't wait to get the rims.. Hope you guys like them.

Oh yeah and I've Bren looking for a 283 I think that it would be a cool motor for our collection being the blueprint for all small blocks.

[oldblue1968chevy]

Sweet dude!

what wheels/tires ya gettin!

[292farmer]

sweet!! powerglide was only 2 speed probably a th-350 then..im guessing, gas gauges are good probably better on gas then the truck too

[threeonthetree]

sweet i know
these rims are pretty sweet cant wait to put a pic up really changes the car.. there not on now lugs nuts don't work. gonna get some tomorrow.

bought a new master and bled the brakes they work!! awesome thing goes down the road pretty good. cant wait to get the tires on.

gas gauge works to.

those turbos shift about 50 and 70 right?
how could i tell that is is or is not.

here's a pic of the 64 kinda like my grandpas

[292farmer]

mph? 50 and 70 if your hammering it! lol id say slow steady accelerating 1st to 2nd about 15-20mph 2nd to thrid about 30-35? not hundred percent sure. look up what shapes the pans are on the 350 and 400 trannys then match it to yours,

[threeonthetree]

well my blazer has a turbo 350 shifts about 50 and 70.

good idea with the pans

hope you figure out your 292 i saw your post.. good luck

[threeonthetree]

just matched the pan looks like a trubo350.

[292farmer]

cool, well at least u know what shift kit to buy now lol
yeah that motor problem is driving me nuts, i cant afford a new carb and the only good used carb i found is on a motor that ran 15yrs when pulled out of truck guy want 500$ and wont part out...seems like my baja bug project i just started 3 weeks ago is moving 100times faster and i haven't spent a cent on that project...grrr at least i know each time i replace something that part is not gonna fail anytime soon.

[threeonthetree]

washed the car
picture of the new rims

[292farmer]

wow! that car cleaned up nice. love those rims.

[culp7]

damn looks like a different car

[oldblue1968chevy]

sweet car man!!!! your missing a centercap, what kind of wheels are thsoe?

[Palf70Step]

They looks like Cragar SS's or a knock off brand. They looks sweet on there.

[threeonthetree]

yeah there crager 5 spoke or something. bought them off some guy. the centers say keystone idk what they are exactly didn't cost that much and the tires are almost new.
just took some time finding a shank lug nut to fit this car.
but they look good.. as you guys know.
thanks guys glad you like them!


any suggestions on finding the other 2 centers?

[Hard Luck]

I'll be heading to a big swap this weekend (think Iola) and I will bring back a few names that might have some centers for you.

Also check out this site.

http://www.jalopyjournal.com/forum/forumdisplay.php?f=5

You can find lots of good tech here.

[culp7]

now that you got a new thread for the Bel Air... Any updates on the pick-up?

[oldblue1968chevy]

wheres the car thread?

[culp7]

Originally Posted by oldblue1968chevy

wheres the car thread?

http://67-72chevytrucks.com/vboard/s...d.php?t=395399

Here you go!

[threeonthetree]

Originally Posted by culp7

now that you got a new thread for the Bel Air... Any updates on the pick-up?

ah i see you found the new thread.
No updates on the truck haven't really been workin on it much. should start on the bed soon and get that done so i can haul some dirt bikes this summer.
Ill have some updates on it this weekend. or monday. Edit.. the car had a nice rubber mat in it thats about all i have done put that mat in the truck. looks nice and keeps the flooors clleaan.

As for the car. its still running finally changed the oil on it. haha the filter was a mess because we had to tare it aprat to get it off hah. seems like that 230 eats alot of gas tho idk what would cause that.