Lied and defrauded on 1971 c10 short bed

[no moa]

Originally Posted by HeloCrewChief

Yes,
I hear you guys on welding the plate but, that is not the correct way to do it. It should have more of a Z cut in it. Also, the weld is not even done all the way down in the first picture.

Wouldn't be worth cutting and welding in a Z pattern now, the frame would be to weak then you'd have to plate it anyway.
Best option is to plate it side top and bottom or find a SWB frame.

[prostreetC-10]

Big thing is WHAT DID YOU PAY FOR IT???? I understand everything you are saying but.....it sure looks like a nice truck from here!!! Just wondering if the long bed was some how cut down too. Sure the frame needs re-enforced but if you can get passed the "new information", you just might have a really nice truck!

[67ChevyRedneck]

In my state vehicles out of warranty are sold "as is". So buyer beware. You failed to do the legwork and research. I would move on and enjoy the truck or sell it.
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[DGulliver]

Originally Posted by 67ChevyRedneck

In my state vehicles out of warranty are sold "as is". So buyer beware. You failed to do the legwork and research. I would move on and enjoy the truck or sell it.
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We have a winner..

[Daner]

If everyone was ethical we wouldn't need laws. The law is simply the bare minimum amount of ethics allowed by society. Some people like to exhibit the bare minimum. Personally, I don't know how they sleep at night. Maybe it's an ignorance is bliss kinda thing.

As others have said it looks like it's worth what you paid. An easy way to avoid scams like this is to buy beat up rusty trucks... makes it obvious if things have been changed.

[shawno72]

Just kinda curious does the rest of the spid denote that it's a Cheyenne with all the options that it has?
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[LEEVON]

That's a beautiful truck. I wonder if the seller just didn't know any better? Hard to say what you should do, but the quicker you resolve it and enjoy the truck the better. Depending on what you paid...lawsuit isn't going to get you anything unless the seller has the means to make it right (i.e. buy the truck back, etc.). If you're out a couple grand difference just chalk it up to experience and move on. As for the frame itself, it's not the end of the world, I'd have somebody you trust look into it and repair if needed.

[Lee H]

Plate it and drive it. Chalk it up to a lesson learned, never buy any car or truck without looking it over real good.

[elf w/capital T]

Originally Posted by Lee H

Plate it and drive it. Chalk it up to a lesson learned, never buy any car or truck without looking it over real good.

True true, we are human, we have to learn the hard way sometimes, but still...thats effed up on the sellers behalf

[dbstepside]

to me it doesn't matter if it's been shortened and as my father and i have shortened truks as long as i can remember. granted we have always informed a buyer of this. some people don't care and others freak out and that's ok. but if a cut down frame or even if it had been a cab swap would have kept you from buying the truck i think you should have done a little more homework on the truck before you bought it. i do think the seller should have told you if they knew but oh well. btw i like the truck, i would do as others have said and reinforce the weld it it isn't already and cruise the crap out of it.

[briank]

In Illinois its pretty much buyer beware unless you had everything in writing.It appears to be a very nice looking truck, just not what you paid for.Im sure you could sell it and recoup or even make money on it or enjoy the hell out of it.
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[jocko]

what WE think about the fact it's been shortened doesn't really matter - op is rightly furious because it was incorrectly represented - knowingly or unknowingly. Aside from a spot on the people's court, there is no recourse. It is a HARD lesson. But we've seen it on here before. Fortunately - it IS a VERY nice truck - after the frustration wears off a bit, I hope you can still enjoy it. If you paid a huge amount for a shorty - then small claims court might be worthwhile, but probably not - the "i didn't know" defense will actually work in his favor. Sorry man - this really stinks, and we see it fairly often. Good luck and hang in there - enjoy this good lookin little truck.

[prostreetC-10]

You know more about the transaction details than we do. There is always the chance that the owner was just turning it or owned it for awhile and didn't even know.

Funny as it is....I'd NEVER think to check the spid for wheel base length. I would have caught those welds though because I love to roll under rigs I am looking at to buy.

[big_al_71]

Originally Posted by lolife99

you have a beautiful truck i would love to own.

I would weld a couple extra reinforcement plates on that frame and drive the crap out of it.
It's a cool truck.

*ditto*

[Fesser]

Small Claims Court allows you to sue (up to $7,500)for things like this. The following is from the state's website explaining things that can be brought through the small claims system

"You were defrauded in the purchase of a car, and desire to cancel the purchase and get back the amount of your down payment from the seller"

Here is the site:
http://www.dca.ca.gov/publications/s...sic_info.shtml

Disclaimer: I did not read the information posted so I don't know how it works for people from out of state.

In a nutshell, small claims is fairly easy (I went through it once). To win, the burden of proof is only the preponderance of the evidence. Basically if you tilt the scales of justice in your direction,51%, you have a winning case (as opposed to proving your case "beyond a reasonable doubt" in criminal cases).

I think if you could document or prove to the judge that you specifically asked about it being an original short bed, and can show that he assured you it was, you are starting to tilt the scale in your favor (he could have replied"I don't know" "How can I tell" "The guy a bought it from said it was" etc.).

If you go that route, document everything. Judges love evidence. Also consider having it appraised and then getting the appraiser to give a value for long bed vs. shortbed vs. modified longbed. That will give you a number to show your actual damages if you want to keep the truck but be made whole on the difference in value and what you paid (if there is a difference).

Lastly, as stated by someone above, the hard part can be getting your money after a judgement is passed. That involves another set of processes unless the person is a good person who just pays up.

Good luck. Nice looking truck even if cut down.

Frank

[NewType72]

Plate it, weld it, drive the crap out of it, and be happy you have a beautiful truck no one is going to downplay this truck from what it is because it was shortened were certainly not Barrett Jackson freaks on here. And anything out of Modesto is a lie trust me I've lived between there and Turlock my entire near 20 years of life
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[FrankieD]

I know when you spend 11k for a 40yro truck everything should be good and as we all know when you own one of these you will be under it just to see what is there so I would say the guy is lying, but it is buyer beware. With the the frame being cut the way it is I would wonder what is under the paint. I would also see if you can track the PO and see if he is the one that did the work or if he sold it to the seller as a long bed

My truck is from Modesto, which is a good thing for me living in the rust belt.

[cheyenne shortstep]

Caveat Emptor. I see situations like this all the time and wonder why people don't do their homework?

[KEL]

Originally Posted by cheyenne shortstep

Caveat Emptor. I see situations like this all the time and wonder why people don't do their homework?

OK
Let's see.
Latin, right ?
(heee-hee-he)

[prostreetC-10]

One of the most *****en swap meets I ever went to was in Turlock about 3 years ago!! In the middle of a bunch of fields, I found Holley heaven.

[chevjayfsd]

If the cut was correct, I wouldn't make a big deal... The cut is so incorrect it's sad.

It all just depends on how much $$ you shelled out in my opinion.

[67chevemall]

Most likely the PO sold it because he figured out what a crap job he did on the welds.
Or he got screwed so he made it your problem.
Plate it up and paint it up. Out of sight out of mind. Just enjoy the truck.

[biggestjohn]

Googled the info, found a cashed version of this ad from Sept 12.
Small claims is not an option!

For you to win, you will need to be able to prove everything!! And you'll need a Lawyer.

You could try to get half of your money back thru small claims, but you still need proof.

Personally, I'd chalk it up as a very expensive learned, and move on.

[OJ1988]

Originally Posted by biggestjohn

Googled the info, found a cashed version of this ad from Sept 12.
Small claims is not an option!

For you to win, you will need to be able to prove everything!! And you'll need a Lawyer.

You could try to get half of your money back thru small claims, but you still need proof.

Personally, I'd chalk it up as a very expensive learned, and move on.

How much was it listed for?

[biggestjohn]

Originally Posted by OJ1988

How much was it listed for?

Since he has now revealed how much he paid..........

$15,000