New "Reproduction" tilt columns - Page 2 - The 1947 - Present Chevrolet & GMC Truck Message Board Network

YBNORML · 12-31-2016, 02:48 PM

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Originally Posted by 67ChevyRedneck

I checked. Wes just carries the upper bearing (it goes right under the steering wheel) and the lower bearing, (the one on the very bottom of the column) just like everyone else. Most parts places do carry a bearing that looks like the one I need, but I don't know what size it is and I don't like to guess with $30-40 parts...

There's also no way I'm putting it back together with a broken bearing cage. My luck is that it would fall apart the first time I drive it. These things are (insert a lot of bad words here) nightmare to take apart. If I put it back together it's going to be with new parts

I found another place that specializes in GM columns and sent them an email on the bearings. With as many as these things are rebuilt, I can't believe this isn't "common knowledge".

What about packaging all your parts up and sending them to KevsClassics? I know it would be a bit like giving up

and i Know you are a pretty big do it yourself guy. But Kevin is just about the best in the business and you would end up with a GM column thats very safe.

**Joesjunk** · 12-31-2016, 04:43 PM

Stick with an oem column even if it cost you more money. I put a CPP chrome tilt in my friends truck and if you ask me it's a piece of crap. I wouldn't have one if they gave it to me for free!

**nlped** · 12-31-2016, 05:04 PM

I had Les "70ShortFleet" rebuild mine and he did a magnificent job at a very fair price.

**leddzepp** · 12-31-2016, 05:44 PM

Use a van column. Very easy to adapt, OEM GM quality, way less $$ than an aftermarket column.

Shotgunn · 01-01-2017, 02:03 PM

The columns that are listed on LMC dont say where there manufactured or if there OEM and at $500 im still leery about them..
Does anyone know any more info on them?

James the III · 01-01-2017, 02:08 PM

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Originally Posted by leddzepp

Use a van column. Very easy to adapt, OEM GM quality, way less $$ than an aftermarket column.

What years van's?

Shame that the 73-87 truck don't just bolt in

67ChevyRedneck · 01-01-2017, 10:16 PM

Well, Crap, and this is from a place that specializes in GM and Ford column rebuilds & parts.

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Thank you for visiting and contacting us through http://www.steeringcolumnservices.com.* We provide steering column parts, instructions and repair services worldwide.
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The design you have is not the same as the styles we service.* Your tilt column was used in cars through 1968 and trucks through 72.* It does in fact thave 2 different bearing in it and we are unable to find a source for these.* I’m sorry we cannot help you fuirther.* If you do happen to find a supplier, PLEASE let us know and we will reward you for that opportunity.

James the III · 01-02-2017, 04:13 AM

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Originally Posted by 67ChevyRedneck

Well, Crap, and this is from a place that specializes in GM and Ford column rebuilds & parts.

Wonder what one they can't get..

**Dustmaker65** · 01-02-2017, 10:33 AM

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Originally Posted by nlped

I had Les "70ShortFleet" rebuild mine and he did a magnificent job at a very fair price.

I agree with Ed! I have bought or had Les rebuild 3 for me just last year. He does a wonderful job!

**leddzepp** · 01-02-2017, 02:56 PM

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Originally Posted by James the III

What years van's?

Shame that the 73-87 truck don't just bolt in

72-80 (or so). As long as it doesn't have the key in the column.

Shotgunn · 01-02-2017, 04:06 PM

i have sent a pm to kevsclassics, i see he hasnt been online since dec 28.. must be on holidays.. does anyone know if you can convert a non tilt to a tilt?

Shotgunn · 01-05-2017, 08:29 PM

I called LMC to ask who manufactures there new columns, couldn't give me a name...just said that they are made in the USA...does anyone have one...good or bad..

I have contacted 70shortfleet and kevsclassics they want $600 + shipping now

**rob32472** · 01-05-2017, 09:03 PM

I used a CPP unit. The shift lever was a little loose however it functioned perfectly. I would not hesitate to use one again.

67ChevyRedneck · 01-06-2017, 01:29 AM

It makes me wonder... if the bearings I'm trying to find are so "unavailable", what the heck is being "rebuilt" in these $$$$$ OEM rebuilds??? New upper and lower bearings and a paint job?

**rob32472** · 01-06-2017, 06:28 AM

I copied this from an ad..... but you pretty much hit the nail on the head. Note the ad states bearings were cleaned , checked and re-lubed....

Column was completely disassembled. all metal parts bead blasted, external parts were etched primed then painted semi-gloss black. housing bolts have been lock-tited to not come loose. bearings have been checked & re-lubed. new ac delco turn switch.

**special-K** · 01-06-2017, 09:43 AM

For aftermarket columns, Flaming River is "The Man". It's what they do and have done for longer than CPP has existed. We have a vendor here who has Flaming River set them up to bolt directly in.

*randy500* · 01-06-2017, 01:39 PM

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Originally Posted by rob32472

I copied this from an ad..... but you pretty much hit the nail on the head. Note the ad states bearings were cleaned , checked and re-lubed....

Column was completely disassembled. all metal parts bead blasted, external parts were etched primed then painted semi-gloss black. housing bolts have been lock-tited to not come loose. bearings have been checked & re-lubed. new ac delco turn switch.

Geez...I hope nobody here thought they were getting anything other than a new paint job on a "rebuilt column". There is hardly anything in the column that "needs rebuilt" other than a little cleaning and new grease on those pivot cup bearings.
Upper and lower bearings? That takes all of 30 minutes to inspect or replace. Looks like there is good money to be made in cleaning up columns...
Now for a column that is loose side to side or up and down...the fix for that is to tighten up 4 bolts which is part of re-assembly. Sometimes the parts in there are worn and require touching up with a file, I bet usually they are just snugged down.

67ChevyRedneck · 02-15-2017, 02:46 PM

Well, I gave up on finding the bearings. The only guy I could find that says he has them wants a small fortune for them ($180 for both) and by the time I buy the rest of the other parts it's not worth another $300, so per most people's suggestions I ordered an unpainted ididit column. Should be here next week or so.

GASoline71 · 02-15-2017, 02:55 PM

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Originally Posted by GASoline71

Agreed...

I am bolting in a Flaming River tilt in my truck very soon.

Gary

Quoting myself here as I also just bought an Ididit column (instead of Flaming River) from board vendor MCB Matt for my 1972 GMC C15.

Gary

67ChevyRedneck · 02-15-2017, 02:57 PM

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Originally Posted by GASoline71

Quoting myself here as I also just bought an Ididit column (instead of Flaming River) from board vendor MCB Matt for my 1972 GMC C15.

Gary

That's actually who I just bought one from. Great price and free shipping. The only thing that sucks is us 67/68 owners have to buy a $30 wheel adapter kit or grind the steering wheel hub down. I just paid $200 for a new steering wheel, so I bought the kit.

Shotgunn · 02-15-2017, 03:36 PM

How much for an unpainted ididit column? Was just about to buy an fr for $800 powder coated

67ChevyRedneck · 02-15-2017, 03:44 PM

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Originally Posted by Shotgunn

How much for an unpainted ididit column? Was just about to buy an fr for $800 powder coated

Like half that... PM sent.

Edit: The floor shift tilts are way cheaper, like $300 less, than the column shift ones... my bad...

12-31-2016, 04:43 PM	#27
Joesjunk Senior Member Join Date: May 2001 Location: Independence MO. Posts: 7,689	Re: New "Reproduction" tilt columns Stick with an oem column even if it cost you more money. I put a CPP chrome tilt in my friends truck and if you ask me it's a piece of crap. I wouldn't have one if they gave it to me for free! __________________ 72 3/4t Custom Deluxe 402/auto 66k Original paint 71 3/4t 4x4 Custom Deluxe 10k original miles Original paint 71 3/4t Cheyenne 402 70k original paint 72 3/4t 4x4 Custom deluxe 72 3/4t 4x4 Custom deluxe 91k original paint 72 Cheyenne/30 Dually 69 Camaro SS396 4-speed 13 GMC 2500HD Duramax I bought new 05 Jeep Wrangler "Willys Edition" 12k miles (I bought new) 85 3/4 ton 4x4 Scottsdale 33k miles original paint 86 1 ton 4x4 SRW Silverado 454 restored 80 1 ton 4x4 SRW Silverado 9,434 original miles!! original paint 95 GMC 1 ton dually 4x4 my dad bought new 95 GMC 3/4 ton 4x4, regular cab 454, 31k original miles 2002 2500HD 4x4 regular cab 6.0L 67k miles 2002 2500HD 4x4 regular cab 8.1L 28k miles 2003 GMC 2500HD 4x4 regular cab Diesel 93k miles 67-72 Parts for sale

12-31-2016, 05:04 PM	#28
nlped Senior Member Join Date: Jul 2009 Location: Hayden, Al. Posts: 4,147	Re: New "Reproduction" tilt columns I had Les "70ShortFleet" rebuild mine and he did a magnificent job at a very fair price. __________________ Carter 1968 Chevy SWB Fleet... Walt 1963-1/2 Ford Falcon Futura...Martha

12-31-2016, 05:44 PM	#29
leddzepp Moderator Join Date: May 2007 Location: Southern Cal Posts: 19,993	Re: New "Reproduction" tilt columns Use a van column. Very easy to adapt, OEM GM quality, way less $$ than an aftermarket column. __________________ 1972 C/10 Cheyenne Super SWB. Restored, loaded, slammed. 1968 C/10 50th Anniversary LWB. Unrestored, stock, daily driver/work truck. RIP ElJay RIP 67ChevyRedneck RIP Grumpy Old Man

01-01-2017, 02:03 PM	#30
Shotgunn Registered User Join Date: Dec 2016 Location: Lethbridge AB Posts: 22	Re: New "Reproduction" tilt columns The columns that are listed on LMC dont say where there manufactured or if there OEM and at $500 im still leery about them.. Does anyone know any more info on them?

01-02-2017, 04:06 PM	#36
Shotgunn Registered User Join Date: Dec 2016 Location: Lethbridge AB Posts: 22	Re: New "Reproduction" tilt columns i have sent a pm to kevsclassics, i see he hasnt been online since dec 28.. must be on holidays.. does anyone know if you can convert a non tilt to a tilt?

01-05-2017, 08:29 PM	#37
Shotgunn Registered User Join Date: Dec 2016 Location: Lethbridge AB Posts: 22	Re: New "Reproduction" tilt columns I called LMC to ask who manufactures there new columns, couldn't give me a name...just said that they are made in the USA...does anyone have one...good or bad.. I have contacted 70shortfleet and kevsclassics they want $600 + shipping now

01-05-2017, 09:03 PM	#38
rob32472 Registered User Join Date: May 2007 Location: dallas ga Posts: 1,504	Re: New "Reproduction" tilt columns I used a CPP unit. The shift lever was a little loose however it functioned perfectly. I would not hesitate to use one again.

01-06-2017, 01:29 AM	#39
67ChevyRedneck Hittin E-Z Street on Mud Tires Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: Greenville, SC Posts: 23,090	Re: New "Reproduction" tilt columns It makes me wonder... if the bearings I'm trying to find are so "unavailable", what the heck is being "rebuilt" in these $$$$$ OEM rebuilds??? New upper and lower bearings and a paint job? __________________ Jesse James 1967 C10 SWB Stepside: 350/700R4/3.73 1965 Ford Mustang: 289/T5-5spd/3.25 Trac-Loc 1968 Pontiac Firebird: Project Fire Chicken! 2015 Silverado Double Cab 5.3L Z71 2001 Jeep Wrangler Sport 4.0L 5spd 2020 Chevrolet Equinox Premium 2.0L Turbo 2011 Mustang V6 ~ Wife's ride American Born, Country by the Grace of God 1967 CST Shop Truck Rebuild! My 1967 C-10 Build Thread My Vintage Air A/C Install Project "On a Dime" Trying my hand at Home Renovation! 1965 Mustang Modifications!

01-06-2017, 06:28 AM	#40
rob32472 Registered User Join Date: May 2007 Location: dallas ga Posts: 1,504	Re: New "Reproduction" tilt columns I copied this from an ad..... but you pretty much hit the nail on the head. Note the ad states bearings were cleaned , checked and re-lubed.... Column was completely disassembled. all metal parts bead blasted, external parts were etched primed then painted semi-gloss black. housing bolts have been lock-tited to not come loose. bearings have been checked & re-lubed. new ac delco turn switch.

01-06-2017, 09:43 AM	#41
special-K Special Order Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: Mt Airy, MD Posts: 85,862	Re: New "Reproduction" tilt columns For aftermarket columns, Flaming River is "The Man". It's what they do and have done for longer than CPP has existed. We have a vendor here who has Flaming River set them up to bolt directly in. __________________ "BUILDING A BETTER WAY TO SERVE THE USA"......67/72......"The New Breed" GMC '67 C1500 Wideside Super Custom SWB: 327/M22/3.42 posi.........."The '67" (project) GMC '72 K2500 Wideside Sierra Custom Camper: 350/TH350/4.10 Power-Lok..."The '72" (rolling) Tim "Don't call me a redneck. I'm a rough cut country gentleman" R.I.P. ~ East Side Low Life ~ El Jay ~ 72BLUZ ~ Fasteddie69 ~ Ron586 ~ 67ChevyRedneck ~ Grumpy Old Man ~

02-15-2017, 02:46 PM	#43
67ChevyRedneck Hittin E-Z Street on Mud Tires Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: Greenville, SC Posts: 23,090	Re: New "Reproduction" tilt columns Well, I gave up on finding the bearings. The only guy I could find that says he has them wants a small fortune for them ($180 for both) and by the time I buy the rest of the other parts it's not worth another $300, so per most people's suggestions I ordered an unpainted ididit column. Should be here next week or so. __________________ Jesse James 1967 C10 SWB Stepside: 350/700R4/3.73 1965 Ford Mustang: 289/T5-5spd/3.25 Trac-Loc 1968 Pontiac Firebird: Project Fire Chicken! 2015 Silverado Double Cab 5.3L Z71 2001 Jeep Wrangler Sport 4.0L 5spd 2020 Chevrolet Equinox Premium 2.0L Turbo 2011 Mustang V6 ~ Wife's ride American Born, Country by the Grace of God 1967 CST Shop Truck Rebuild! My 1967 C-10 Build Thread My Vintage Air A/C Install Project "On a Dime" Trying my hand at Home Renovation! 1965 Mustang Modifications!

02-15-2017, 03:36 PM	#46
Shotgunn Registered User Join Date: Dec 2016 Location: Lethbridge AB Posts: 22	Re: New "Reproduction" tilt columns How much for an unpainted ididit column? Was just about to buy an fr for $800 powder coated



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