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lost wages · 02-21-2003, 03:33 PM

i also called the missouri highway patrol and was told the only way to do so was to get a new vin made, it costs about 8 dollars. My title is clear and in my name so i dont know why they wont just verify it and let me hack away.

**Desert Rat** · 02-21-2003, 04:46 PM

new vins issued here are a sticker,with a new number,think id just reuse the old one.when they retitle stuff here,they need to be inspected a level 3 inspection,where they check everything,and if you have a different colored fender or door they want a reciept,i ran into that problem i didnt have reciepts,so i came home and primered it.and that was just to title it in AZ not a vin/cab swap.its easier to go around some of the idiotic laws.whos going to know,if its legit just do it,but dont announce it.

TERRYP · 02-21-2003, 05:50 PM

I drove a car from California to Washington to get Washington plates, and yes, you do not need an inspection in Washington anymore! If your vehicle has to be inspected, I think the best way is to cut around the vin, then weld it back in. I used to do that with dune buggies in the 60's never got questioned in California.

Slammed67 · 02-21-2003, 06:42 PM

Cutting a VIN off one truck and welding it on another is still "breaking the law". It’s just another way of doing it. If an anal retentive DMV employee is going to check for proper rivets, don't you think he'd also reach around and check for welds? Especially on a freshly painted 30+ year old truck! Might as well take your chances with some "incorrect" rivets and save yourself hours of metal work! Hell, I had mine attached with some sheet metal screws for about 4 years! Breakin’ the law….. Breakin’ the law…..!

LOL… I was just thinking…… My truck was originally a long bed and now it’s a shortie! Had no problems getting it inspected/licensed! I guess I won’t be moving to California! I’d be screwed!

Johns70 · 02-21-2003, 08:14 PM

mikep i had to do what 71stepside said.thats what was needed here in washington when i did mine, because i changed the cab and motor and was issued a new vin tag for the cab and installed it same number as the frame.it was about four years ago when i had to have the 65 truck i got from oregon inspected,so its been awhile, i didn't know that they quit inspecting out of state rigs to get the title chaned and licensed.

>X< · 02-21-2003, 08:31 PM

damn, what am i gonna do when i eventually build the frame up. i am using a cab from a 72 3/4 ton lwb, it says all that on the title, and it is licensed to me, but the frame is from a 69, i bought it with no title, junked the cab, motor is from late70's burb. this is gonna be fun. i'm glad all my friends work a the inspection place. they just take my ten bucks and slap a sticker on my windshield. got one a while back with no bed. I vote that efabman try his hand at making some rivets from old chevy truck parts, haha

mikep · 02-21-2003, 08:32 PM

Yeah . Its was about two years ago if I remember right. The state patrol anniounced they wouldnt inspect out of state vehicles any more unless they got a boost in funding. Like its a huge job. I think those goofy round drill sergeant hats make their brains shrink.

69oldie · 02-21-2003, 08:52 PM

In Calif. You can NOT tamper the Vin plate at all!!! The Highway patrol will have to re-issue an "aluminun/sticker" vin plate with their special rivets. Once you taper with your original......they will remove it completely and discard of it themselves (and destroy the original GM tag whether you want to keep the original one or not!!). The Highway patrol will not allow you to watch or observe them when they replace the tag (top secret stuff I guess??). The "new" tag/sticker looks like $hit and takes away from the originality of the truck. Realistically, in calif. the only time that the vin plate is viewed and inspected, is if the truck is stolen then recovered again. At that time, ALL numbers are CAREFULLY inspected .....The 2 sets of vin #'s on the drivers side of the frame, the Drivers cab corner, and engine block( Like someone else said the engine # doesn't matter too much with vehicles of this age, as some engines are swapped/changed anyways.). They inspect to make sure #'s are matching and consistant.
Also someone said you can buy the original rivets???????? If you can, that person who sells and advertises them, are not going to be in buisness too long............
If it wasn't a big deal.....then I don't thunk that General Motors would design a VERY VERY unique looking and tamper resistant
rivet.

P.S. sorry for the any miss spellings!! someone should put a spell check on this board...

**PICKMUP** · 02-22-2003, 06:14 AM

Hardrock---I think your cousin's, uncle's, neighbor's whatever is a GENIOUS! ...and we all know while DMV & HP are bent over checking our rivets, ten stolen expensive cars are going right past them and they haven't got a clue. Don't ever try to get any help from them. Make it work, yourself, or they will screw you...guaranteed!

JoetheMobster · 02-22-2003, 10:34 AM

Sounds like HardRock has a plan there! I personally don't think I would have the patience to do that!! I would probably get fed up, and grab a pair of pliers and rip the SOB off!

Bowed · 02-22-2003, 10:59 PM

One thing not mentioned here is that if you were to tamper with a plate and then sold the truck to some one for lets say a noteable amount of money , if the new owner found the plate had been illegaly tampered with he would have legal recourse on the seller = U-pay $$$ .

02-21-2003, 05:50 PM	#28
TERRYP GYRO GEARLOOSE Join Date: Jun 2000 Location: Nevada City, CAEverett, WA Posts: 361	I drove a car from California to Washington to get Washington plates, and yes, you do not need an inspection in Washington anymore! If your vehicle has to be inspected, I think the best way is to cut around the vin, then weld it back in. I used to do that with dune buggies in the 60's never got questioned in California. __________________ Nevada City, CA Everett, Washington 57 3/4 rat, 235, 3spd 66 C-10 Panel, SWB. 350 from '68, 200R4 tranny, 3.07 rear ratio, restoring 68 C10 LWB 350 4spd, 4.56 rear dump runner 82 Camaro, 305, THM-200-R4 84 Monte Carlo 305 TH350, land tuna 85 Tercel SW, snow runner DISGRACED OUTLAW MEMBER OF THE DRUM BRAKE CLUB

02-21-2003, 06:42 PM	#29
Slammed67 Progress = 0% Join Date: Nov 2001 Location: Kansas City, MO Posts: 2,108	Cutting a VIN off one truck and welding it on another is still "breaking the law". It’s just another way of doing it. If an anal retentive DMV employee is going to check for proper rivets, don't you think he'd also reach around and check for welds? Especially on a freshly painted 30+ year old truck! Might as well take your chances with some "incorrect" rivets and save yourself hours of metal work! Hell, I had mine attached with some sheet metal screws for about 4 years! Breakin’ the law….. Breakin’ the law…..! LOL… I was just thinking…… My truck was originally a long bed and now it’s a shortie! Had no problems getting it inspected/licensed! I guess I won’t be moving to California! I’d be screwed! __________________ Jason - '67 GMC swb \| '57 Bel-Air 4dr hardtop \| '56 210 4dr Wagon \| 2000 GMC Sierra

02-21-2003, 08:14 PM	#30
Johns70 Registered User Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: Spring Creek, nevada. U.S.A. Posts: 456	mikep i had to do what 71stepside said.thats what was needed here in washington when i did mine, because i changed the cab and motor and was issued a new vin tag for the cab and installed it same number as the frame.it was about four years ago when i had to have the 65 truck i got from oregon inspected,so its been awhile, i didn't know that they quit inspecting out of state rigs to get the title chaned and licensed. __________________ 69 chevy short wide box project 70 GMC jimmy project

02-21-2003, 08:31 PM	#31
>X< registered IWATA user Join Date: Feb 2002 Location: Baton Rouge Posts: 4,483	damn, what am i gonna do when i eventually build the frame up. i am using a cab from a 72 3/4 ton lwb, it says all that on the title, and it is licensed to me, but the frame is from a 69, i bought it with no title, junked the cab, motor is from late70's burb. this is gonna be fun. i'm glad all my friends work a the inspection place. they just take my ten bucks and slap a sticker on my windshield. got one a while back with no bed. I vote that efabman try his hand at making some rivets from old chevy truck parts, haha __________________ -'63 Ford Fairlane 500 coupe, v8, auto, faded and rusty. awaiting built roller 302 and some flat black -'99 Honda Prelude. vtech/5spd. no pipe, no intake, bone stock. awaiting new top end. -01 GMC Yukon SLT 5.3 dented and scratched with a noisy tranny. Take off that Von Dutch hat before i stab you with a 000 Mack.

02-21-2003, 08:32 PM	#32
mikep Used to have a truck Join Date: May 2002 Location: port orchard WA Posts: 1,552	Yeah . Its was about two years ago if I remember right. The state patrol anniounced they wouldnt inspect out of state vehicles any more unless they got a boost in funding. Like its a huge job. I think those goofy round drill sergeant hats make their brains shrink. __________________ No truck :-(

02-21-2003, 03:33 PM	#26
lost wages Registered User Join Date: Apr 2001 Location: jefferson city, mo Posts: 1,364	i also called the missouri highway patrol and was told the only way to do so was to get a new vin made, it costs about 8 dollars. My title is clear and in my name so i dont know why they wont just verify it and let me hack away.

02-21-2003, 04:46 PM	#27
Desert Rat Senior Member Join Date: Dec 1999 Location: Darrington, Washington Posts: 3,963	new vins issued here are a sticker,with a new number,think id just reuse the old one.when they retitle stuff here,they need to be inspected a level 3 inspection,where they check everything,and if you have a different colored fender or door they want a reciept,i ran into that problem i didnt have reciepts,so i came home and primered it.and that was just to title it in AZ not a vin/cab swap.its easier to go around some of the idiotic laws.whos going to know,if its legit just do it,but dont announce it.

02-21-2003, 08:52 PM	#33
69oldie Never too many LONGHORNS! Join Date: Dec 1999 Location: Los Angeles Calififornia Posts: 423	In Calif. You can NOT tamper the Vin plate at all!!! The Highway patrol will have to re-issue an "aluminun/sticker" vin plate with their special rivets. Once you taper with your original......they will remove it completely and discard of it themselves (and destroy the original GM tag whether you want to keep the original one or not!!). The Highway patrol will not allow you to watch or observe them when they replace the tag (top secret stuff I guess??). The "new" tag/sticker looks like $hit and takes away from the originality of the truck. Realistically, in calif. the only time that the vin plate is viewed and inspected, is if the truck is stolen then recovered again. At that time, ALL numbers are CAREFULLY inspected .....The 2 sets of vin #'s on the drivers side of the frame, the Drivers cab corner, and engine block( Like someone else said the engine # doesn't matter too much with vehicles of this age, as some engines are swapped/changed anyways.). They inspect to make sure #'s are matching and consistant. Also someone said you can buy the original rivets???????? If you can, that person who sells and advertises them, are not going to be in buisness too long............ If it wasn't a big deal.....then I don't thunk that General Motors would design a VERY VERY unique looking and tamper resistant rivet. P.S. sorry for the any miss spellings!! someone should put a spell check on this board...

02-22-2003, 06:14 AM	#34
PICKMUP "Trucks with Class" Join Date: Jul 2000 Location: OLYMPIA, WA, USA Posts: 8,122	Hardrock---I think your cousin's, uncle's, neighbor's whatever is a GENIOUS! ...and we all know while DMV & HP are bent over checking our rivets, ten stolen expensive cars are going right past them and they haven't got a clue. Don't ever try to get any help from them. Make it work, yourself, or they will screw you...guaranteed! __________________ Email: frankeham@comcast.net Phone: 360-956-7170

02-22-2003, 10:34 AM	#35
JoetheMobster Listening since '86 Join Date: Sep 2001 Location: Canada Posts: 1,799	Sounds like HardRock has a plan there! I personally don't think I would have the patience to do that!! I would probably get fed up, and grab a pair of pliers and rip the SOB off! __________________ 2007 Saturn Aura - hey it WAS a GM product

02-22-2003, 10:59 PM	#36
Bowed Registered User Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: where it's hot Posts: 1,059	One thing not mentioned here is that if you were to tamper with a plate and then sold the truck to some one for lets say a noteable amount of money , if the new owner found the plate had been illegaly tampered with he would have legal recourse on the seller = U-pay $$$ .



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