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Old 04-04-2015, 09:49 PM   #1
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Re: '66 Custom Camper workhorse project

Really liking what you've done so far. Sub'd.
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Old 06-28-2015, 05:24 PM   #2
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Re: '66 Custom Camper workhorse project, one step forward...

Ah, the carnage!

I have been working on the truck a lot lately, but not making a lot of progress.

I bought my 4bt several years ago from a kid whose last name was James and lived in Kearney, Missouri (where Jesse James once lived). I should have paid attention to that omen.

Honestly, he probably just passed on the story that was fed to him and the real crook is the guy that sold him the engine. They story he told me was that it was from a bread truck and that it had been overhauled not too long before the truck was taken out of service. He had plans to put twin turbos on it and put it in something but changed his mind. He advertised it on craigslist and I ended up buying it. It would easily fit into the project I originally purchased it for so it sat in my shop for three or four years until I started this project.

Before I went too far I pulled the oil pan and timing cover to see what things looked like, kill the proverbially killer dowel pin and replace the crankshaft seals. While I was in there I looked at one of the main bearings and one of the rod bearings and they looked good. I did find that the brace on the pickup tube was broken, so I put in a new one of them.

Before I attempted to start it, I installed it in the truck and hooked up the cooling system etc. I pulled out the injectors to see if/how they sprayed. One would not spray at all. I even swapped injectors from one line to anther, but that one wouldn't spray no matter where it was connected.

While I had the injectors out I cranked the engine over on the starter until it built oil pressure.

I got a deal on a set of practically new injectors from a fellow who had bought a set and within 200 miles cracked a head. Replacement heads (and newer model 4bts) utilize 7mm injectors and are less prone to cracking. I don't think 9mm heads are available any longer.

I put the new injectors in and while I was cranking the engine over, bleeding the injector lines, it was apparent that one or more cylinders were down on compression. While I was bleeding the lines it started up and ran on two cylinders. I kept bleeding the lines alternately and it was clear that cylinders #1 and #2 were dead. That made me suspect that a head gasket was blown between #2 and #2.

This morning I pulled the head off of it. Here's what I found:









This is light shining under a straightedge showing the huge gap where the trench is eroded in the block. The head has a similar groove, but it isn't quite as deep.

I'm looking at reman long blocks now. Any way I go I am going to be out more $$$$. Bummer. I really liked the idea of fuel ecomony, but for the money I am going to have to spend I could buy a lot of gas in a gas burner. I have an old 305 that ran pretty well that I could stick in it for little $$, but I don't think I'd be happy with it. I might seriously consider an LS swap if I could do it for less money, but I kinda doubt that possibility.

I must study the problem for a while.

Oh, and I recently scored a 14 bolt rear axle with 3.73 gears in it, which will get my cruise rpm down where it needs to be for maximum fuel economy.
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Old 06-29-2015, 12:08 AM   #3
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Re: '66 Custom Camper workhorse project

That's too bad about the 4BT. Someone must have been running it with the blown head gasket for a while for it to eat away the block and head like that.
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Old 06-30-2015, 10:20 AM   #4
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That's got to be a bummer.
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Old 06-30-2015, 11:49 AM   #5
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Re: '66 Custom Camper workhorse project

sorry to hear about the new(s) =0/

but that is a nice snag on the 14 bolt =0)
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Old 07-26-2015, 12:13 PM   #6
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Re: '66 Custom Camper workhorse project

Well, continuing on the 4BT trajectory was going to be more money than I was willing to spend. I am going to cut my losses on the Cummins and part it out. I should be able to break even. To that end, I went shopping for a low mileage LS engine/transmission combo. For some reason, I couldn't find anything with less than 100k miles. I know one of those would have a lot of life left in it, but I want even more life. In my search, I stumbled across a 1995 LT1 5.7L and 4L60E out of a wrecked Buick Roadmaster with just 48K on it. I have changed plugs, plug wires, opti-spark cap and rotor and water pump. Now I am paring down the wiring harness to eliminate the unnecessary junk. I have sent off the PCM for a reflash to eliminate much of the emissions stuff and change the final drive ratio parameters.

Now I am regretting swapping my automatic steering column for a floor shift manual one!

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Old 08-09-2015, 05:53 PM   #7
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Whittling down the wiring harness on the LT1.

I had Brendan at LT1swaps.com reflash my PCM to eliminate the smog pump, evap, anti-theft etc. He's a great guy to deal with if you are in need of such services. He does a lot of other GM reflashes too.
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Old 09-26-2015, 12:18 AM   #8
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Anything new to post?
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Old 09-28-2015, 10:03 PM   #9
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Re: '66 Custom Camper workhorse project

Nah. I got sidetracked working out some electrical bugs in my buddy's 60' Condor. I finished it the other night and plan to get back on my truck this weekend. On the upside, I used the Condor to replace several burned out lights in my shop so it will be brighter in there this winter...
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Old 08-01-2016, 08:50 PM   #10
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My poor truck has been back-burnered for a while. I lost my 79 year old mom suddenly right after Christmas. My 81 year old dad is lost without her. I've been spending lots of time with him getting him settled in his new paradigm. Things are finally starting to get back to a new normal and I've been able to scrounge some good parts recently and am working to build a lean-to on my shop so I can move my recently acquired motorhome out of the shop so I will have room to work on my truck. The biggest find I've had was a '65 parts truck with a much solider cab than mine. This alone will save me tons of work. It has a lot of other parts I need and the dash is unmolested. (I can't say the same for my original!)
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