bagging questions.

[Naterman35]

Ok another question. How to "paddle valves work"?

Heres a picture http://www.ecrater.com/product.php?pid=4290489

[Hottrucks]

1/4" lines forget it ...........it would take an hour to fill the bags

[Naterman35]

id still like to know how they work. i don't understand them.

Im using 1/2".

Im not going to do the whole thing in copper anymore. Im going to go D.O.T air line all the way till the cab. Then the visible part will all be copper or brass or somethi8ng similar.

[SCOTI]

Originally Posted by Hottrucks

1/4" lines forget it ...........it would take an hour to fill the bags

Please..... 1/4" line will fill bags from deflated to ride height in under 2mins w/a small compressor. They may not be the 'trick' thing, but they will get the job done for those that aren't interested in playing around & just drive low all the time.

[Inverter]

Never heard of such a thing. Looks like the manual switch opens a path from"tank to bag"when pushed in one direction and opens an air escape path"from bag" when push in another direction. Escaping air would come right out of the valve into your cab? Maybe theres a provision for routing the escaping air outdoors ?? Just guessing.

Imo,3/8 line is the seet spot.

[XXL]

Originally Posted by Hottrucks

1/4" lines forget it ...........it would take an hour to fill the bags

Exaggeration is fine, but your post just reads simply as bad information. Let's try to keep the bad information off the board. It confuses lots of people, who often parrot said bad information elsewhere, thus making things even worse for the community at large. This is why we need duct tape and plastic to save us from chemical weapons attacks and why people at my office were wearing surgical masks during the H1N1 "scare."

Originally Posted by SCOTI

Please..... 1/4" line will fill bags from deflated to ride height in under 2mins w/a small compressor.

And that 2 minutes is likely with ONLY a compressor (no tank). With 6 gallons of stored air, lift time on my truck is about 20 seconds. More than reasonable for anyone who's just trying to change the ride height.

[6772owner]

Ok not to hi-jack here, but if you were use the Manual Paddle Valves wouldnt you need to get 4 of them to keep the air bags independent? If you only use two then the air would transfer between the bags, correct? At $80 for 4 of them and all the lines into/out of the cab is that really a deal? Just trying to get the info on this subject, seems very plausible for me.

[Naterman35]

My understanding of them is yes if you only had two for all four corners then it will be a very rough sloppy ride and you'll be all over the place.

Plus with thoose the air is being dumped right into the cab... My understanding of them at least that's what i assume.

[6772owner]

Ok cool, I found a pic of the back of them and it did look like it just has a hole between the 1/4" barbs to dump the air. I assume you could put another barb fitting in this hole and vent the air outside the cab if you got ambitious. Thanks for the info, maybe still a consideration....

[SCOTI]

Originally Posted by 6772owner

Ok not to hi-jack here, but if you were use the Manual Paddle Valves wouldnt you need to get 4 of them to keep the air bags independent? If you only use two then the air would transfer between the bags, correct? At $80 for 4 of them and all the lines into/out of the cab is that really a deal? Just trying to get the info on this subject, seems very plausible for me.

Price a 4-way solenoid pack & 2x pnuematic paddle controls/gauges aren't bad. It depends mostly on whose set-up you go with (pre-fab solenoid set-ups or piece it together solenoids).

The big thing is the minimal electronic issues when using paddles. There are more/larger airlines that have to be plumbed into the cab, but it's not a big deal when using 1/4" line. If using 1/2" line, I would go electronic & use solenoids. You can plumb a 'dump' line so the dumped air is outside of the cab.

[AVS_JASON]

I have the paddle switches on my 85. I have two 3 gallon tanks and two Viair 380 compressors. It will lift the rear from layed out to locked up in about 5 seconds. The front is not done yet so that may take a bit longer being that it is a lot heavier.

[6772owner]

Ok thanks for the info guys, I understand that the solenoids are about $300 for an 8 pack, I was just concerned with creating more places to leak and it being inside the dash LOL Im not that concerned with it dumping the air in the cab, I have the bags simply for the ride and ability to alter ride height with changing weight etc. AVS JASON do you have any pics of your set up? I would be interested in seeing them if you do. Thanks again to all!

[AVS_JASON]

to advertise you need to be a paid vendor

[6772owner]

Thats an awesome set-up buddy, is that a manufactured panel or custom made? Thanks for the pics

[6772owner]

Ok cool, I will check it out. Thanks Again, Clay

[SCOTI]

Originally Posted by AVS_JASON

I have the paddle switches on my 85. I have two 3 gallon tanks and two Viair 380 compressors. It will lift the rear from layed out to locked up in about 5 seconds. The front is not done yet so that may take a bit longer being that it is a lot heavier.

What size lines?

[AVS_JASON]

Originally Posted by SCOTI

What size lines?

All 1/4" right now...

But I'm thinking of going with 1/2" from the tanks to the switches and then 1/4" the rest of it. Probably not though, since the 1/4" is already ran, LOL...

[6772owner]

Do you think it would be best to run a 1/2" line into the dash and then split it to the (4) 1/4" supplies to the switches? I was thinking I could use bulkhead fittings at the firewall and then only have the (1) 1/2" and (4) 1/4" lines to deal with, any thoughts on this??

[AVS_JASON]

Originally Posted by AVS_JASON

to advertise you need to be a paid vendor

My bad.... The guy asked to see my set up and I posted a pic of it.

[Naterman35]

Tank came in today and the bags are supposed to be here later today or tomorrow.

Then need to just get all the fittings and line this weekend.

[MTCHEVY]

AVS Jason - Can I get a pic of you paddle switch setup....I sent you a personal e-mail

[au03z71]

Originally Posted by Hottrucks

1/4" lines forget it ...........it would take an hour to fill the bags

1/4" lines work great IMO. They give you finer, slower control and won't give you whiplash when you air up your bags (although I know some people like that).

[rckclmbr99]

one of my buddies had 1/4 lines and paddle valves from way back and he ran it for a few years and didnt really have many problems. it is slow but it gets the job done. just dont expect to be able to hit any mad switches haha

[AVS_JASON]

"Hitting switches" is overrated anyways. LOL....
I would rather pull up to the stop light and be rolling lower then the other guy. Not jumping around, trying to have a dance off. That's just my opinion though...

[rckclmbr99]

ya i hear ya. it is fun to hit switches at people walkin down the side of the road though b/c its kinda loud so they piss their pants then the think your truck broke haha