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Old 01-04-2016, 09:36 AM   #1
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Re: 1976 Square "Simple Green"

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Ray here.

What's behind door NO.1
Not much to see here just a pinched o-ring
I could smell fuel and there was a wet spot that shouldn't have been there.

Door NO.2
The ground wires some people have been wondering about.

Door NO.3
Nothing for that but the day is still early.

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I suspect that the grounds behind door # 2 are internal grounds for the throttle body mounted sensors. Which means they are still depending on the mounting studs for an overall ground.
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Old 01-04-2016, 10:55 PM   #2
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Ray here.

What's behind door NO.1
Not much to see here just a pinched o-ring
I could smell fuel and there was a wet spot that shouldn't have been there.

Door NO.2
The ground wires some people have been wondering about.


Door NO.3
Nothing for that but the day is still early.

Ray.
Aren't those internal grounds?
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Old 01-04-2016, 10:27 AM   #3
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Ray here.
It is currently 27 degree's were my car is stored and dark...
Don't need much light I have done this far to many times.
Put STD body back on..........
SO what do you think happened?

BANG...half a turn and it runs very nicely...
BUT to be fair I really need put the adder back on to see what happens....
Well maybe I should swap out the idle control first????

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Old 01-04-2016, 10:37 AM   #4
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Ray here.

I don't even have the throttle cable hooked up....

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Old 01-04-2016, 10:43 AM   #5
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Re: 1976 Square "Simple Green"

Ray,
Since you have both the standard and the adder, can you see a physical difference between them?
I'm curious if it's a added feature and software or just software that makes a difference.

Also what injector size are they?
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Old 01-04-2016, 11:09 AM   #6
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Ray here.

I was told by Fitech that you could not upgrade a std to a adder because the body's were different as you can tell I have had a bit more apart than most consumers.......I cant see it!! but I keep looking.

I was also told the controllers were also completely different....
The only difference is the chip......(removable one)

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Old 01-04-2016, 11:13 AM   #7
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Ray here.

I have no idea but all 4 are the same.

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Old 01-04-2016, 11:56 AM   #8
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Ray here.

I have no idea but all 4 are the same.

Ray.
I thought they were GM injectors, not GM like injectors. I wonder how they compare to a GM injector, as in durability?
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Old 01-04-2016, 03:45 PM   #9
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I thought they were GM injectors, not GM like injectors. I wonder how they compare to a GM injector, as in durability?
You all realize that Fuel Injectors Technologies is a china man company that makes injectors right? Fuel Injectors Technologies aka FiTech USA makes injectors to compete with Bosch and others. Jermey the cofounder worked overseas for Fuel injectors Technologies the injector company. Fuel injector Technologies is the parent company to FiTech EFI USA.

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Old 01-04-2016, 05:49 PM   #10
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You all realize that Fuel Injectors Technologies is a china man company that makes injectors right? Fuel Injectors Technologies aka FiTech USA makes injectors to compete with Bosch and others. Jermey the cofounder worked overseas for Fuel injectors Technologies the injector company. Fuel injector Technologies is the parent company to FiTech EFI USA.
Nope didn't know that
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Old 01-04-2016, 12:10 PM   #11
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Ray here. Again...

On the air controllers thing the one from the adder I cant move by hand.
The one from the std I can move by hand.. it my have been luck of the draw
that when I put it in it ran fine. Keep in mind the motor had already been running...

Update on that...One is meant to be used with presser and one with vacuum only.???..... Will go back down that road when things cool down...Maybe the adder one works to slow???

If someone can read the part number on there's just to make shore am not just reading production codes. that would be nice...


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Old 01-04-2016, 12:54 PM   #12
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Ray here..

Just incase you don't know what part am talking about...

In living color......
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Old 01-04-2016, 01:19 PM   #13
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Re: 1976 Square "Simple Green"

Not sure how you'll take this comment, but this truck reminds me of the c10 built on fast n loud. Love the color, interior, and wheels!
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Old 01-04-2016, 03:43 PM   #14
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Not sure how you'll take this comment, but this truck reminds me of the c10 built on fast n loud. Love the color, interior, and wheels!
Lol. Thanks for the compliment. Not a fan of gas junkies. But I know what you are saying.
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Old 01-04-2016, 03:56 PM   #15
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Re: 1976 Square "Simple Green"

I know it's the holidays, but this is a pivot point for them.
If you look down at the end of this thread, you'll see many watching it.
Like I said, someone from FiTech needs to join the forums and get involved.
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Re: 1976 Square "Simple Green"

So Ray and I have the same issue both with power adders. So it is either a software issue a setting issue something. They have to know about this. I just find it hard to believe that in test nothing like this popped up.
Hell I will fly Ken and Jermey out my way put them up in a motel if they can fix it.
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so ray and i have the same issue both with power adders. So it is either a software issue a setting issue something.
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ray here. Again...

On the air controllers thing the one from the adder i cant move by hand.
The one from the std i can move by hand.
Just curious if maybe this is the problem.
Can you get to yours Rod and see if you can move it by hand?
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Just curious if maybe this is the problem.
Can you get to yours Rod and see if you can move it by hand?
Yes if I knew the location Ray was talking about. I am adding grounds now.
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Ray here.
The adder is back on after finding a new o-ring..
Its suppose to be about 8 degree's tomorrow morning nothing should run rich in that.
The adder chip did not come back to life so testing with that is out...
I did start the motor and ran it till warm up just in case it had to learn something with the
IAC step thing..

Back in the Morning..

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Ground straps showed up today. One side of the terminal was the wrong size so cut and crimped new ends on one side. Had to 3 that way. But got a big azz 0 gauge ground strap. Looks like a ground that goes to a power poll. Lol. I will be damn if they say my **** isn't grounded. Lmao.
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Re: 1976 Square "Simple Green"

Now give me your opinions and I know you will. On the block I have 2 holes. 1 is being used for the battery ground. Should I take the new ground strap from the empty hole to the frame. Or double up on that one hole to the battery and then to the frame with new strap.
It won't make a difference but just wanted to see what you all think lol.
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On the block I have 2 holes. 1 is being used for the battery ground. Should I take the new ground strap from the empty hole to the frame. Or double up on that one hole to the battery and then to the frame with new strap.
It won't make a difference but just wanted to see what you all think lol.
Is the first hole from battery to frame? Or motor to frame?
I say battery, frame and motor should be all connected as long as you have a good contact free of paint/rust and then protect it from getting corroded it shouldn't make a difference how it's run.
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Is the first hole from battery to frame? Or motor to frame?
I say battery, frame and motor should be all connected as long as you have a good contact free of paint/rust and then protect it from getting corroded it shouldn't make a difference how it's run.
That's how I have it. Just like seeing people different opinions lmao. I have them all tied together. It goes from battery to block and from block to frame. The connecting point is the block. And swamp don't offend me I am rust free lmao.
That made me think today I was under the truck and my 5 yr old said. Daddy we got a problem your tires are dirty lmao. I said it's ok he said daddy we have a major problem I see rust on the frame daddy. I said that's not rust that's dirt. He gets up walks off and is digging in my tool box I said what are you doing he said getting some sandpaper and paint we got to fix that lmao.
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Ray here.
Air control solenoid on back of body their is the spring loaded shaft.

STD one I can move in and out by hand...
my mean nothing........ find out in time..

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Yeah, I got replies to both of my emails today.
They're back in the office catching up on emails.
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