Anyone use OC Auto Carpets? (Auto Custom Carpets) - The 1947 - Present Chevrolet & GMC Truck Message Board Network

**71CHEVYSHORTBED402** · 08-10-2023, 04:09 PM

The guy restoring my bench seat recommends them for flooring. Whatever their product, I'd like something "first rate".

I'm looking at the orig. black loop with the "mass backing". Perhaps that's all the floor needs, but then again, they have a set of sound deadeners too. Maybe they go well together.

They have what looks like really nice floor mat options as well, and fuel tank cover that might be an upgrade, though I'm leaning to match the original. Speak of, recommendations for an original replacement in-cab fuel tank cover appreciated.

Edit: Just got off the phone with their rep., she's first rate. Their carpet kits are made in the USA by Auto Custom Carpets.

https://www.ocautocarpets.com/cart/

72c20customcamper · 08-10-2023, 06:46 PM

If you’re going AAC I found the best place to buy from is Rock Auto . I got mine from them . Mass backing loop was much cheaper than anywhere I looked

**71CHEVYSHORTBED402** · 08-10-2023, 09:27 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 72c20customcamper

If you’re going AAC I found the best place to buy from is Rock Auto . I got mine from them . Mass backing loop was much cheaper than anywhere I looked

Thanks. Did you add any additional insulation under that loop?

72c20customcamper · 08-10-2023, 09:34 PM

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Originally Posted by 71CHEVYSHORTBED402

Thanks. Did you add any additional insulation under that loop?

No I just used the mass and jute . Layed down nice and it’s much quieter than the old rubber mat

**samkost** · 08-10-2023, 11:32 PM

I’m about to order from Rock Auto.
ACC Loop with Mass Backing with some partial DynaMat layers down first.

To those who have used the ACC kit, does it come with the floor dimmer switch grommet ??

Joyridin · 08-11-2023, 08:07 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by samkost

I’m about to order from Rock Auto.
ACC Loop with Mass Backing with some partial DynaMat layers down first.

To those who have used the ACC kit, does it come with the floor dimmer switch grommet ??

Yes, if I recall, it was already in the carpet.

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**coldrider** · 08-11-2023, 11:41 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by samkost

I’m about to order from Rock Auto.
ACC Loop with Mass Backing with some partial DynaMat layers down first.

To those who have used the ACC kit, does it come with the floor dimmer switch grommet ??

I ordered and installed mine this summer and it did not come with the grommet.

Extended Power · 08-12-2023, 11:08 AM

I first ordered from TMI.
I was totally disappointed when it showed up in multiple pieces, and even more disappointed after I installed it.
To explain: I thought I had ordered a one piece, high hump, along with the carpet for the back wall. (No tank)
What showed up was three separate pieces for the floor pan, and another piece for the back wall.
The way the three pieces overlapped was unbelievably ugly...with no way to hold it down. My Son gave me his floor mats to try and hind the “seams”, which, when I tried to remove the floor mats, the teeth on the backside STUCK to the carpet, and pulled it out along with the floor mats.
So, out with that crap, and I immediately ordered a full set of carpet, including side panels for the kicks, and the back wall.
Guess what? It was a one piece molded carpet that fit awesome, and looks even better.
I also ordered floor mats with the “GMC” logo on them.
Zero complaints with ACC.

**bowtie72** · 08-12-2023, 12:39 PM

I used ACC also. Came with grommet but you has to cut the hole. I also put sound deader in and it’s well worth it. I installed it inside the doors also. It is worth every penny.

**coldrider** · 08-12-2023, 11:10 PM

Guess I'm the only one who didn't get the grommet, oh well, stuff happens, i still think ACC is great company, they got a bunch of samples out to me quickly and were great answering my question to ensure I was ordering the right stuff.

I ordered through one of their distributors who only gave me 3 days from "receipt" of the carpet to make claims. Well, receipt for me was Seattle. The freight forwarding company I used from Seattle to Anchorage takes another week, and it was another week past that by the time I noticed I didn't get one.

I suppose I could've tried, but it wasn't worth the hassle for such a small thing, esp. since I wasn't 100% sure one should have been included.

LS short box · 08-13-2023, 04:43 PM

I've used ACC on a number of projects with good results with the exception of my current 80 Camaro project. Many creases that I thought would come out over time but no luck.
Pic of the insulation I added to my 68.
I only used the ACC floor carpet on my 68. I used what's called trunk liner on the back wall of the cab. Got it at a local fabric shop for about $20.

**71CHEVYSHORTBED402** · 08-14-2023, 02:15 PM

I ended up ordering the floor loop with mass backing, their loop gas tank cover, and floor mats. 615 with shipping.

**samkost** · 08-14-2023, 03:03 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 71CHEVYSHORTBED402

I ended up ordering the floor loop with mass backing, their loop gas tank cover, and floor mats. 615 with shipping.

You spent more money than me Tony!

Yeah I just ordered my mass backed carpet also.
Let us know about the molded gas tank cover and their matching floor mats when they come in.
There has been some favorable posts about the newer molded gas tank carpet and how a forum member here worked with ACC to refine the fitment.
Would like to know more about how it is installed to the tank and back wall.
I was also looking for positive comments on ACC’s matching floor mats.
ACC offers custom embroidered logos.
My truck is Hugger Orange and White, so I think Black mats with one their several Orange thread colored Bow Ties would be a nice touch.
Thanks, Sam

**71CHEVYSHORTBED402** · 08-14-2023, 04:17 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by samkost

You spent more money than me Tony!

Yeah I just ordered my mass backed carpet also.
Let us know about the molded gas tank cover and their matching floor mats when they come in.
There has been some favorable posts about the newer molded gas tank carpet and how a forum member here worked with ACC to refine the fitment.
Would like to know more about how it is installed to the tank and back wall.
I was also looking for positive comments on ACC’s matching floor mats.
ACC offers custom embroidered logos.
My truck is Hugger Orange and White, so I think Black mats with one their several Orange thread colored Bow Ties would be a nice touch.
Thanks, Sam

I will update for sure. I had no particular reason for choosing the looped tank cover beyond its more expensive. Sometimes you get what you pay for, this time maybe not. I'd have saved 50 or so to get everything through rock auto.

**samkost** · 08-14-2023, 05:37 PM

Thanks Tony,
Looking forward to any updates and info.
Sam

**Speedracer39** · 08-14-2023, 08:09 PM

Im in the process of laying down 80 ml kilmat and plan on also buying acc carpet any recommendations on what works best for heat ordering it with mass backing or no backing and using 1/4 Dynaliner over the kilmat?

**samkost** · 08-22-2023, 03:27 PM

Just a follow up for everyone who orders an ACC Carpets kit for their C10/20/30’s
My carpet kit with mass backing came in and it is definitively a quality carpet.
I posted a question about the dimmer switch grommet being included.
Unfortunately I didn’t get one in the box.
I called ACC asking if the grommet is an included part of the kit and they said yes, it should have been.
One phone call to them and they will send you a grommet.
Tip of the hat goes to ACC for great customer service.

Thanks all for your posts,
Sam

**Mike_The_Grad** · 08-23-2023, 04:49 PM

I've installed a few of the ACC carpet kits and one of their vinyl kits. The ACC kits are pretty well made and finished with a hemmed stitched wrap around the majority of the carpet kit. You have to trim where the door sill plates go. The carpet kits did come with the grommet. It was loose floating In the box and even under one of the flaps at the opposite end of the box end I cut open. So double check the entire box! So you have to cut the hole for the grommet. I just laid it out on the floor pan with dimmer switch installed into floor pan In stock location. And with NEW SHARP RAZOR knife I slit an X over the dimmer switch until I could just barely squeeze the switch through the carpet. This left 4 raised corners around the base of the switch. I lifted carpet off switching used sharp scissors or kitchen shears to basically connect the 4 corners and remove the 4 small triangles of material. Then squeeze grommet in that hole. Had to do a little trimming to center the grommet over the switch but it came out fine. Just trim little at a time and use good scissors for small amounts of material removal or a fresh new thin razor blade and something like a cutting board to have some leverage under the material. Or you might end up fraying and loosening up the carpet looking sloppy. Another really helpful tip for making holes through the carpet for mounting seats, seat belt bolts, or door sill screws is to use a hollow punch set, pair of vice grips, and blowtorch. Holding hollow punch with the vice grips, select appropriate size punch slightly larger than diameter or bolt or screw and heat it with the torch til red hot and pierce through the carpet completely and quickly. This leaves no frayed fibers or slits in the material. Just a nice melted clean hole that won't get caught in the threads of the fastener leading to a run in the carpet that you will instantly hate and want to walk away from. I also use sound deadner from Amazon. Foil backed butyl stuff. 25 Sq. Ft. Will do the entire floor pan and maybe some left over for kick panels or inside door shells. Or on or behind fuel tank or under dash.

**dmarty** · 08-23-2023, 05:17 PM

Heating a hollow punch with a torch to make a hole is a great idea! Easy to make out of a piece of pipe or tube of the right size and hit it with a grinder.

72c20customcamper · 08-23-2023, 08:05 PM

I don’t think GM put the seat brackets on top of the carpet . Every original example I have done mainly cars the carpet was cut to allow the seat bracket to sit directly on the floor . No matter how tight you make it the material will compress and the seat will become loose . The warm metal awl works great from the underside to locate the holes. The seat tracks I used to locate the and cut the holes were an extra pair I had

**OneBad71** · 08-23-2023, 08:54 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 72c20customcamper

I don’t think GM put the seat brackets on top of the carpet . Every original example I have done mainly cars the carpet was cut to allow the seat bracket to sit directly on the floor . No matter how tight you make it the material will compress and the seat will become loose . The warm metal awl works great from the underside to locate the holes. The seat tracks I used to locate the and cut the holes were an extra pair I had

Thanks, good info to have !

67RS/SSx2 · 08-26-2023, 05:45 PM

I used them once. Won't make that same mistake again.

https://67-72chevytrucks.com/vboard/...d.php?t=837320

The quality of the carpet seems good. There was no dimmer switch hole in the carpet, nor any grommet for it. The fitment of mine is not too good. I have the high hump with the mass backing. Carpet hangs over past the sill plates so I will have to trim it back to install those. Also fits loose over the transmission hump.

Also my matts said they were for a square body. Called them and they said they also fit 67-72. You would think that could be printed on the tag that came with the matts.

**knuckle-nurse** · 08-26-2023, 06:42 PM

We just installed one in a 71 4x4 auto. Ordered black, loop, high hump, mass backing with gas tank from rock. The one we got was for a no gas tank install so we had to to trim the back. Also no dimmer gromet. It did fit very well and we did not have to trim for the sill plates. No wrinkles or loose areas. Very impressed.

**OneBad71** · 08-26-2023, 07:23 PM

I just ordered for my 71 C10 from rock auto because of the price and shipping cost. Direct from ACC was almost $100 more just for shipping ?
My question, on the high beam grommet. If I don't receive one in the box, do you call Rock Auto or ACC ?
I always prefer to order direct from a company, but when they are so much higher, you just have to look elsewhere.

custom10nut · 08-29-2023, 07:49 PM

I’m following this because there is a lot of VERY useful information being shared.
One question I have is:
When installing the carpet with Mass Backing, can it be installed right onto Sound Deadener covering, or does it need additional padding?
Also, will I need to use Spray On Adhesive, or will the carpet stay in place with the seats and sill plates?

08-10-2023, 04:09 PM	#1
71CHEVYSHORTBED402 Senior Member Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: Northern Nevada Posts: 7,152	Anyone use OC Auto Carpets? (Auto Custom Carpets) The guy restoring my bench seat recommends them for flooring. Whatever their product, I'd like something "first rate". I'm looking at the orig. black loop with the "mass backing". Perhaps that's all the floor needs, but then again, they have a set of sound deadeners too. Maybe they go well together. They have what looks like really nice floor mat options as well, and fuel tank cover that might be an upgrade, though I'm leaning to match the original. Speak of, recommendations for an original replacement in-cab fuel tank cover appreciated. Edit: Just got off the phone with their rep., she's first rate. Their carpet kits are made in the USA by Auto Custom Carpets. https://www.ocautocarpets.com/cart/ __________________ Tony 71 Custom Deluxe, SWB, 2WD, 402, A/C. I developed an assm. guide "kit" for restoring the truck from ground up. With assys, the guide accts for 1000s details, OEM identifications & part numbers, written in short order. 700+ images of assm., illust., charts, and points of interest. Much of the info. applies to all 67-72 GM trucks, and to a lessor degree all 67-72 GM vehicles. My build thread, and more on the guide https://67-72chevytrucks.com/vboard/...d.php?t=730025 Last edited by 71CHEVYSHORTBED402; 08-10-2023 at 04:52 PM.

08-10-2023, 06:46 PM	#2
72c20customcamper Registered User Join Date: Jul 2018 Location: Catskill Mountains,NY Posts: 8,216	Re: Anyone use OC Auto Carpets? (Auto Custom Carpets) If you’re going AAC I found the best place to buy from is Rock Auto . I got mine from them . Mass backing loop was much cheaper than anywhere I looked __________________ Mark 72 c20 custom camper Husky edition, 66 SS396 Chevelle 1964 Hawk, 63 Avanti,62 lark 1969 AMX , 1968 c20 stepside ,85 K20 1977 Suburban sold 68 anniversary.

08-10-2023, 11:32 PM	#5
samkost Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2014 Location: Lake Tapps, Wa. Posts: 611	Re: Anyone use OC Auto Carpets? (Auto Custom Carpets) I’m about to order from Rock Auto. ACC Loop with Mass Backing with some partial DynaMat layers down first. To those who have used the ACC kit, does it come with the floor dimmer switch grommet ??

08-12-2023, 11:08 AM	#8
Extended Power Registered User Join Date: Dec 2022 Location: Redcliff, Alberta Posts: 201	Re: Anyone use OC Auto Carpets? (Auto Custom Carpets) I first ordered from TMI. I was totally disappointed when it showed up in multiple pieces, and even more disappointed after I installed it. To explain: I thought I had ordered a one piece, high hump, along with the carpet for the back wall. (No tank) What showed up was three separate pieces for the floor pan, and another piece for the back wall. The way the three pieces overlapped was unbelievably ugly...with no way to hold it down. My Son gave me his floor mats to try and hind the “seams”, which, when I tried to remove the floor mats, the teeth on the backside STUCK to the carpet, and pulled it out along with the floor mats. So, out with that crap, and I immediately ordered a full set of carpet, including side panels for the kicks, and the back wall. Guess what? It was a one piece molded carpet that fit awesome, and looks even better. I also ordered floor mats with the “GMC” logo on them. Zero complaints with ACC. __________________ "If it ain't broken, fix it 'till it is!"

08-12-2023, 12:39 PM	#9
bowtie72 Registered User Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Colorado Posts: 359	Re: Anyone use OC Auto Carpets? (Auto Custom Carpets) I used ACC also. Came with grommet but you has to cut the hole. I also put sound deader in and it’s well worth it. I installed it inside the doors also. It is worth every penny. __________________ 1968 SWB "Little White Truck" 1972 LWB LS 4l80 "Plain Jane!!"

08-12-2023, 11:10 PM	#10
coldrider Junior Member Join Date: Apr 2023 Location: Anchorage, Alaska Posts: 97	Re: Anyone use OC Auto Carpets? (Auto Custom Carpets) Guess I'm the only one who didn't get the grommet, oh well, stuff happens, i still think ACC is great company, they got a bunch of samples out to me quickly and were great answering my question to ensure I was ordering the right stuff. I ordered through one of their distributors who only gave me 3 days from "receipt" of the carpet to make claims. Well, receipt for me was Seattle. The freight forwarding company I used from Seattle to Anchorage takes another week, and it was another week past that by the time I noticed I didn't get one. I suppose I could've tried, but it wasn't worth the hassle for such a small thing, esp. since I wasn't 100% sure one should have been included. __________________ . My build thread 67 SWB M122 LS2 4L80E

08-13-2023, 04:43 PM	#11
LS short box Registered User Join Date: Jun 2015 Location: Carlos MN Posts: 1,953	Re: Anyone use OC Auto Carpets? (Auto Custom Carpets) I've used ACC on a number of projects with good results with the exception of my current 80 Camaro project. Many creases that I thought would come out over time but no luck. Pic of the insulation I added to my 68. I only used the ACC floor carpet on my 68. I used what's called trunk liner on the back wall of the cab. Got it at a local fabric shop for about $20. Attached Images

08-14-2023, 02:15 PM	#12
71CHEVYSHORTBED402 Senior Member Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: Northern Nevada Posts: 7,152	Re: Anyone use OC Auto Carpets? (Auto Custom Carpets) I ended up ordering the floor loop with mass backing, their loop gas tank cover, and floor mats. 615 with shipping. __________________ Tony 71 Custom Deluxe, SWB, 2WD, 402, A/C. I developed an assm. guide "kit" for restoring the truck from ground up. With assys, the guide accts for 1000s details, OEM identifications & part numbers, written in short order. 700+ images of assm., illust., charts, and points of interest. Much of the info. applies to all 67-72 GM trucks, and to a lessor degree all 67-72 GM vehicles. My build thread, and more on the guide https://67-72chevytrucks.com/vboard/...d.php?t=730025

08-14-2023, 05:37 PM	#15
samkost Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2014 Location: Lake Tapps, Wa. Posts: 611	Re: Anyone use OC Auto Carpets? (Auto Custom Carpets) Thanks Tony, Looking forward to any updates and info. Sam

08-14-2023, 08:09 PM	#16
Speedracer39 Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2016 Location: Omaha Nebraska Posts: 588	Re: Anyone use OC Auto Carpets? (Auto Custom Carpets) Im in the process of laying down 80 ml kilmat and plan on also buying acc carpet any recommendations on what works best for heat ordering it with mass backing or no backing and using 1/4 Dynaliner over the kilmat?

08-22-2023, 03:27 PM	#17
samkost Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2014 Location: Lake Tapps, Wa. Posts: 611	Re: Anyone use OC Auto Carpets? (Auto Custom Carpets) Just a follow up for everyone who orders an ACC Carpets kit for their C10/20/30’s My carpet kit with mass backing came in and it is definitively a quality carpet. I posted a question about the dimmer switch grommet being included. Unfortunately I didn’t get one in the box. I called ACC asking if the grommet is an included part of the kit and they said yes, it should have been. One phone call to them and they will send you a grommet. Tip of the hat goes to ACC for great customer service. Thanks all for your posts, Sam Last edited by samkost; 08-22-2023 at 05:05 PM.

08-23-2023, 04:49 PM	#18
Mike_The_Grad Senior Member Join Date: Oct 2013 Location: Santa Paula, CA Posts: 591	Re: Anyone use OC Auto Carpets? (Auto Custom Carpets) I've installed a few of the ACC carpet kits and one of their vinyl kits. The ACC kits are pretty well made and finished with a hemmed stitched wrap around the majority of the carpet kit. You have to trim where the door sill plates go. The carpet kits did come with the grommet. It was loose floating In the box and even under one of the flaps at the opposite end of the box end I cut open. So double check the entire box! So you have to cut the hole for the grommet. I just laid it out on the floor pan with dimmer switch installed into floor pan In stock location. And with NEW SHARP RAZOR knife I slit an X over the dimmer switch until I could just barely squeeze the switch through the carpet. This left 4 raised corners around the base of the switch. I lifted carpet off switching used sharp scissors or kitchen shears to basically connect the 4 corners and remove the 4 small triangles of material. Then squeeze grommet in that hole. Had to do a little trimming to center the grommet over the switch but it came out fine. Just trim little at a time and use good scissors for small amounts of material removal or a fresh new thin razor blade and something like a cutting board to have some leverage under the material. Or you might end up fraying and loosening up the carpet looking sloppy. Another really helpful tip for making holes through the carpet for mounting seats, seat belt bolts, or door sill screws is to use a hollow punch set, pair of vice grips, and blowtorch. Holding hollow punch with the vice grips, select appropriate size punch slightly larger than diameter or bolt or screw and heat it with the torch til red hot and pierce through the carpet completely and quickly. This leaves no frayed fibers or slits in the material. Just a nice melted clean hole that won't get caught in the threads of the fastener leading to a run in the carpet that you will instantly hate and want to walk away from. I also use sound deadner from Amazon. Foil backed butyl stuff. 25 Sq. Ft. Will do the entire floor pan and maybe some left over for kick panels or inside door shells. Or on or behind fuel tank or under dash. __________________ 1972 C/10 LWB - Mine 1964 C/10 LWB - My Dad's Instagram: Mike_The_Grad

08-23-2023, 05:17 PM	#19
dmarty Junior Member Join Date: Dec 2008 Location: Verona, WI Posts: 97	Re: Anyone use OC Auto Carpets? (Auto Custom Carpets) Heating a hollow punch with a torch to make a hole is a great idea! Easy to make out of a piece of pipe or tube of the right size and hit it with a grinder. __________________ 72 GMC Sierra Grande SWB 402 BB A/C (Owned it since 1973) 99 Silverado 1500 LT with 315K miles (RIP) 2012 GMC Sierra SLT

08-23-2023, 08:05 PM	#20
72c20customcamper Registered User Join Date: Jul 2018 Location: Catskill Mountains,NY Posts: 8,216	Re: Anyone use OC Auto Carpets? (Auto Custom Carpets) I don’t think GM put the seat brackets on top of the carpet . Every original example I have done mainly cars the carpet was cut to allow the seat bracket to sit directly on the floor . No matter how tight you make it the material will compress and the seat will become loose . The warm metal awl works great from the underside to locate the holes. The seat tracks I used to locate the and cut the holes were an extra pair I had Attached Images __________________ Mark 72 c20 custom camper Husky edition, 66 SS396 Chevelle 1964 Hawk, 63 Avanti,62 lark 1969 AMX , 1968 c20 stepside ,85 K20 1977 Suburban sold 68 anniversary.

08-26-2023, 05:45 PM	#22
67RS/SSx2 Registered User Join Date: Sep 2010 Location: Central Oklahoma Posts: 252	Re: Anyone use OC Auto Carpets? (Auto Custom Carpets) I used them once. Won't make that same mistake again. https://67-72chevytrucks.com/vboard/...d.php?t=837320 The quality of the carpet seems good. There was no dimmer switch hole in the carpet, nor any grommet for it. The fitment of mine is not too good. I have the high hump with the mass backing. Carpet hangs over past the sill plates so I will have to trim it back to install those. Also fits loose over the transmission hump. Also my matts said they were for a square body. Called them and they said they also fit 67-72. You would think that could be printed on the tag that came with the matts. __________________ 1972 C20 402/TH400/3.54 Highlander 1969 Camaro RS with SS trim, 1967 Camaro RS/SS (sold) 1983 GMC Sierra Classic 2500 crew cab (sold) 1972 Chevy C10 Cheyenne Super (sold) 1984 Chevy Silverado C20 crew cab (bought new by my uncle, in the family until I sold it)



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08-26-2023, 06:42 PM	#23
knuckle-nurse Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2009 Location: Tugaske SK Canada Posts: 289	Re: Anyone use OC Auto Carpets? (Auto Custom Carpets) We just installed one in a 71 4x4 auto. Ordered black, loop, high hump, mass backing with gas tank from rock. The one we got was for a no gas tank install so we had to to trim the back. Also no dimmer gromet. It did fit very well and we did not have to trim for the sill plates. No wrinkles or loose areas. Very impressed. __________________ 72 Cheyenne C20 BB, air 70 Suburban 20 BB, air, buckets 68 CST C20 air, buddy buckets

08-26-2023, 07:23 PM	#24
OneBad71 Junior Member Join Date: Jul 2022 Location: Gardnerville Posts: 70	Re: Anyone use OC Auto Carpets? (Auto Custom Carpets) I just ordered for my 71 C10 from rock auto because of the price and shipping cost. Direct from ACC was almost $100 more just for shipping ? My question, on the high beam grommet. If I don't receive one in the box, do you call Rock Auto or ACC ? I always prefer to order direct from a company, but when they are so much higher, you just have to look elsewhere.

08-29-2023, 07:49 PM	#25
custom10nut Registered User Join Date: Apr 2015 Location: East Tn (In the heart of the Smoky Mtns) Posts: 1,856	Re: Anyone use OC Auto Carpets? (Auto Custom Carpets) I’m following this because there is a lot of VERY useful information being shared. One question I have is: When installing the carpet with Mass Backing, can it be installed right onto Sound Deadener covering, or does it need additional padding? Also, will I need to use Spray On Adhesive, or will the carpet stay in place with the seats and sill plates?

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