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Old 07-20-2013, 10:23 AM   #1
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Thanks Dale, just got the parts, they look 100% better then mine usually im the one sending out free parts, now i have to pay it forward. Gives me something to work on saturday, while i figure out where to buy a 3 1/2" hole saw for the fuel pump retaining ring

A liilte soap and water then a coat of rust converter, and paint. These tank spacers should be good as new

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Glad that they work for you! If you've sent out free parts, you just paid back a little.
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Hammer and chisel to start hole, then tin snips. After neck was off tank, blow torch and 7/16" wrench. Hold neck horizonal and let gravity help by flowing old solder away. Repop tank has smaller locating/mounting bolts, so well see how that works out
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Ordered my injectors from fast today, 36 lb@58 psi=331.00. Still working on my order for fuel line 3/8" wall thickness. 035, 90/10 copper nickel

Went to offer up fuel tank and ran into a problem, if i put into stock location, interferance with second to last cross sill, could fix it by sectioning in a piece of flat stock in the middle for about a foot and a half....alot of work!

Second option, body lift of about 1 1/2", alot of work and money!

Third option, relocate tank forward about 1 1/2", required to drill 6 holes, and maybe buy a new fuel filler hose. I think i will opt for 3, but everytime i think of drilling large holes, tom vogel comes to mind with a broken wrist. So, when i use my 3/4" chuck drill ill use the handle adapter and hope i can control the torque...if not the build will halt for awhile, and i will utter several curse words. Man that has got to be painful!

Cant think of any options short of renting a magnetic base drill

Recieved the fuel pump connecter from vette works out in washington state. Only need two leads 12v, and ground, other two will be deleted, they are for the sending unit, and i am using the oem sending unit that came with the tank
Gotta take the connecter apart, and check what pins they use, i want to get rid of any splices


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Hey Jim a lot of nice machine work just on that ring alone...if I may ask the dumb question whats the problem with the tank install? fuel supply and return lines, ..Also this is going to be a pressure system will an original filler neck seal enough.? Ed.
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Hey Jim a lot of nice machine work just on that ring alone...if I may ask the dumb question whats the problem with the tank install? fuel supply and return lines, ..Also this is going to be a pressure system will an original filler neck seal enough.? Ed.
Thanks for the comps., probably my fav. part of the build is working with aluminum. It was done with a bandsaw and drill press

The whole problem with the install is that the pump can only mount in one flat spot on the tank, so all changes have to be made to accomadate that location. The actual lines seem to be the easy part, i can rotate the pump just about 360 degrees, just not aimed at the cross sills

The pump shouldnt build pressure in the tank, as it has a vent system right between the supply and return line fittings. So, there shouldnt be any pressure at the fill cap.

Hope i answered your question. I dont believe there are any dumb questions on this board, if you dont know the answer, then you have to ask the question.....
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Make sure if you are drilling the holes for nutserts you use the knurled type. If you use the smooth type on anything other than a punched hole they will eventually slip and make it so you cant get the bolt back out. Ask me how I know LOL. McMaster has both kinds.

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Make sure if you are drilling the holes for nutserts you use the knurled type. If you use the smooth type on anything other than a punched hole they will eventually slip and make it so you cant get the bolt back out. Ask me how I know LOL. McMaster has both kinds.

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Thanks for the heads up Richard, nice to have guys covering your back. Didnt know that, will have to check out mcmaster-carr. I did know that they are to be used on a specific sheet metal thichness

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Just looked in mcmaster-carr, and cant find the knurled body
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Jim, its lookin' great. Can't wait to see/hear a vid of it at idle. Nice work my friend.
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If it bottoms out before it is fully tight turn the wheel on the back of the head clockwise while the gun is released but still inserted in the gripsert. Squeeze the handle again until you get it tight enough. It is hard to apply enough pressure to break the mandrel but it is possible to break it so you just have to find that happy medium. The madrels are replaceable so no big deal if you should snap one. LOL

Just make sure not to leave that 1st one loose. U can screw the gun back in and go again.

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Jim, its lookin' great. Can't wait to see/hear a vid of it at idle. Nice work my friend.
Thanks J, been a long road, as you well understand...those 17s look great on there, nice addition to a already great looking truck. Glad to see you enjoying your build

A video may be outside the reach of my technology, but we shall see.....
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If you have book 119 it is page 3270 or go to there website McMaster.com and type "heavy duty rivet nuts" it will bring you to next screen that has option for heavy duty rivet nuts. from there you can choose what type (open /closed and metric / SAE)

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If you have book 119 it is page 3270 or go to there website McMaster.com and type "heavy duty rivet nuts" it will bring you to next screen that has option for heavy duty rivet nuts. from there you can choose what type (open /closed and metric / SAE)

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Thanks for your time, will check it out....dont know if my catalog is still around, just found it....113
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Ok, found the twist resistant net sert...90720A450. Gotta check out the tool they recommend for installation
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If its not something you are going to use all the time I have a gun you can borrow.

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Richard, thanks for the offer. Let me see how much that tool costs, if its reasonable, ill buy it. Plus it will tell me how much i owe you, in case it breaks on me...

Having a hard time downloading that part number....
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If I recall it is around $100 for a decent gun that wont break after 4 or 5 pulls. I can also send ya some gripcerts and the 25/64 bit if its just gonna be a one time thing for you. Just let me know if I can help. I will have to check but I think it will all fit in a flat rate box so it would just cost ya 6 bucks to send it back when your done. This is my manual gun that I dont use anymore. Just keep it for backup in case my high lever gun breaks, so its no rush sending back.

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I have had the best luck with the 95105A143 nutserts. They look like this. I also checked the gun size and it will not fit in small flat rate by about an inch. UPS ground appears to be about 10 bucks each way.

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Richard, im going to take you up on your offer....thank you very much. Ill pm you my home addy and ill place an order for the cert you advised.....

Do you have a paypal account?
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Richard, this the device i was using, simple, i know....
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Richard, this the device i was using, simple, i know....
Actually back when I did bodywork for a living we would use gripserts occasionally for door mirrors. Dad never would buy a tool for setting them. We always used a long threaded rod with multiple nuts and wrenches to tighten them until they collapsed properly. Crude but it worked.

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Thanks Bud, ill take your advise and do a pratice run....never used that style before
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Richard, got the installation tool today, plus the new drill bit...youre the man, actions like that make this board work.

Thank you very much, whats your paypal addy....
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Don't worry about it. Just make sure it works for ya. Glad someone is working on theirs. I have been in limbo since my car accident back in Nov.

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