More on EVs from a guy trying to sell them

[DeadheadNM]

Ford dealers saying “No thanks” apparently: https://oilprice.com/Latest-Energy-N...Next-Year.html

Buick dealers are simply walking away: https://eu.freep.com/story/money/car...s/71978066007/

[best view]

Sad part is government owns Chevrolet and the government gets there money from us, ive been buying my gas tanks at flea markets and throwing out the new ones that don’t work got 3 last year, I am not following like a sheep

[Ironhorse]

This is a most interesting thread to read thru. I also use the older out dated but still working gas cans and a funnel as needed. Have four 2 1/2 gal, one gal and half and a one gal, all are Gott mfg. See no reason to replace older but PROVEN technology.

It is just so sad that EVs are being pushed as the "climate savior" with out the back story being told of the mining of such material and with ICE equipment, the lack of adequate national electric grid, battery replacement costs and disposal of such, etc. etc. etc. Very little is EVER mentioned on these issues and more.

If we are ALL to one day be driving an EV I have yet to see in the news that GM is currently building EV Suburbans for federal use and the replacement of all those nasty ICE Burbs used by the Washington elites.

Guess had best check if DeanheadNM aka Dale has room in his corner for another, LOL. Dale.......?

[Getter-Done]

Originally Posted by Ironhorse

This is a most interesting thread to read thru. I also use the older out dated but still working gas cans and a funnel as needed. Have four 2 1/2 gal, one gal and half and a one gal, all are Gott mfg. See no reason to replace older but PROVEN technology.

It is just so sad that EVs are being pushed as the "climate savior" with out the back story being told of the mining of such material and with ICE equipment, the lack of adequate national electric grid, battery replacement costs and disposal of such, etc. etc. etc. Very little is EVER mentioned on these issues and more.

If we are ALL to one day be driving an EV I have yet to see in the news that GM is currently building EV Suburbans for federal use and the replacement of all those nasty ICE Burbs used by the Washington elites.

Guess had best check if DeanheadNM aka Dale has room in his corner for another, LOL. Dale.......?

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[57taskforce]

Originally Posted by Ironhorse

This is a most interesting thread to read thru. I also use the older out dated but still working gas cans and a funnel as needed. Have four 2 1/2 gal, one gal and half and a one gal, all are Gott mfg. See no reason to replace older but PROVEN technology.

It is just so sad that EVs are being pushed as the "climate savior" with out the back story being told of the mining of such material and with ICE equipment, the lack of adequate national electric grid, battery replacement costs and disposal of such, etc. etc. etc. Very little is EVER mentioned on these issues and more.

If we are ALL to one day be driving an EV I have yet to see in the news that GM is currently building EV Suburbans for federal use and the replacement of all those nasty ICE Burbs used by the Washington elites.

Guess had best check if DeanheadNM aka Dale has room in his corner for another, LOL. Dale.......?

A finely placed cut with a pair of wire cutters or other sharp tool will quickly turn the new stupid style gas cans into the old school cans. I do it to every new can I buy…

Again. I have zero sympathy for Mary and the rest of the idiots running GM and Ford, even Stalantis for that matter, dodge stepped in it big time killing off the best selling in its class Challenger and even the charger… no body is gonna buy there EV pony car just like no one is going to buy an EV reimagined Camaro.

I’m happy to see that my beliefs are clearly inline with a lot of the general public in that EV’s aren’t the save all to humanity that the White House and the big 3 (among others) are trying to push them to be.

[MikeB]

Originally Posted by best view

Sad part is government owns Chevrolet and the government gets there money from us...

From several sources:

The U.S. government spent $49.5 billion to bail out GM, and after the company’s bankruptcy in 2009, the government’s investment was converted to a 61 percent equity stake in the company. The Treasury gradually sold off its stock in GM, selling its last shares in December 2013.

[72c20customcamper]

Originally Posted by best view

Sad part is government owns Chevrolet and the government gets there money from us, ive been buying my gas tanks at flea markets and throwing out the new ones that don’t work got 3 last year, I am not following like a sheep

Huh ? The treasury debt sold off its last shares in 2013

https://www.usatoday.com/story/money...-sale/3925515/

Edit : sorry already addressed

[Axle]

More useless two cents; Canadian; I'll take my rumbling gasoline v8 thank you very much. (F that 2035 no new ICE vehicles regulation they forced upon us). Heck, I won't even own a v6 because not enough rumble.
If forced to change, I'd willing go hybrid vehicle, but never full ev. I'm a guy who puts down the miles, I don't stop except to fuel up and take a fast bathroom stop. I know I would never tolerate having to wait for a vehicle to charge up. Theres time to smell the roses when I get to my destination.

[68bowtie]

Good to know. I didn’t realize that either.

Somehow they are still going head first into EV’s seemingly counter to financial reasons. I have my suspicions why, but it would definitely get political…. ��

[best view]

If it looks like a duck and quacks like a duck then it is a duck

[Tom]

Everyone forgets that once the dealers only sell electric, the public will buy. Disposable cars need to be replaced eventually and they will buy what they can get.

[72c20customcamper]

Originally Posted by Tom

Everyone forgets that once the dealers only sell electric, the public will buy. Disposable cars need to be replaced eventually and they will buy what they can get.

Cept us we’ll be driving 50 year old trucks . I know my dodge should last another 30

[68bowtie]

Originally Posted by Tom

Everyone forgets that once the dealers only sell electric, the public will buy. Disposable cars need to be replaced eventually and they will buy what they can get.

I don’t think anyone forgot this. This is the exact problem everyone has with the mandates.

[MikeB]

Originally Posted by Tom

Everyone forgets that once the dealers only sell electric, the public will buy.

I read an article saying a huge percentage of used gasoline-powered cars and light trucks will find their way to west coast states once EV mandates go into effect. So, buyers may still have a choice, at least for a while. However, signs are good that mandates are NOT just around the corner, or even a certainty.

I hope EVs remain an option, and not a mandate. It will be interesting to see what happens to manufacturers who actually go "all in".

[68bowtie]

It’s already law in California Mike. People keep suggesting that it’s not. It already passed. It just doesn’t go into effect until 2026.

I agree there is growing public dissatisfaction, but that doesn’t mean the state will retract the law.

And with respect to being able to buy used ICE vehicles, guess what it will do to used car values for all of YOU? Supply and demand…

[FirstOwner69]

I have not been following this thread, but here is a link to a Motor Trend article I just received that may be of interest and add some fuel to the fire. Sorry if someone already posted this.

https://www.motortrend.com/reviews/2...campaign=print

[Ol Blue K20]

Originally Posted by FirstOwner69

I have not been following this thread, but here is a link to a Motor Trend article I just received that may be of interest and add some fuel to the fire. Sorry if someone already posted this.

https://www.motortrend.com/reviews/2...campaign=print

Things that make go HMMMMM!

[Boog]

This Motor Trend article may have already been posted. IDK. These are some of the cars being discontinued after 23/24.

https://www.msn.com/en-us/autos/news...age=AA1ebvTE|9

The last Challenger has already rolled off the assembly line.

[MikeB]

Originally Posted by FirstOwner69

I have not been following this thread, but here is a link to a Motor Trend article I just received that may be of interest and add some fuel to the fire. Sorry if someone already posted this.

https://www.motortrend.com/reviews/2...campaign=print

What an eye-opening article by the Motor Trend writer's experience with the F150 Lightning on a long trip! I knew about charging stations where sometimes only half the chargers work, and also that they don't charge at anywhere near their advertised rate. But this SNAFU goes well beyond that. Until these "range anxiety" issues are resolved, EVs will remain unsuited for long distance travel.

[DeadheadNM]

WSJ article today

How Electric Vehicles Are Losing Momentum with U.S. Buyers, in Charts

HERE

[Boog]

The road test by Hoovie was real world use and it couldn't make the short trip and back.
My feeling about ev is they are little more than a novelty at this point for most buyers. They aren't ready for the masses or the same use as ice vehicles.

[Getter-Done]

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[truckster]

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[Steeveedee]

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[CAMAROBOY68SS]

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man those lego kits are getting really realistic now, lol