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Old 04-18-2002, 05:43 PM   #1
'65 Super Sport 327 700R4
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Post S/R Torquers or Sportsman II?

I was just wanting to get some input about the World S/R torquers and the Sportsman II's. What would be the best choice for building a 350-400 HP 355 for my '74 GMC long bed? I am not sure what cam I will be using but I have been thinking about the Comp cams XE265 or XE268. I will probably just run a performer manifold and Carter 625.
Whats your opinion?

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'29 Chrysler model 65 all original, 2nd owner ***FOR SALE***
'63 Impala SS 283, 3-on-the tree, flowmaster 2 1/4" dual exhaust, performer intake, edelbrock 600 carb, chrome 15x8 rally's
'65 Impala SS, built 332, 700R4, 3.73, 2 1/2" mandral bent duals w/H pipe, Flowmaster 40-series deltaflows, MSD Mallory, too many modifications to list
'72 Chevy Suburban 4x4, NP205, TH350, balanced 357 (.040 350), 268 high energy cam, 9.2:1 comp, 1.94/1.50 heads (ENGINE BUILT BY THE GREAT RAYZOR or if you know him RAY, WHO POSTS ON THIS BOARD AND CHEVYTALK), 3/4 ton leaf springs, 4" lift, 35/12.5/16.5 Grabber MT's, Rancho shocks, Rancho dual steering stabalizer, American Eagle 143's 16.5x9.75 6 lug, 4.10's, 12 bolt rear limited slip, Dana 44 front limited slip. Carter 600, performer intake, headers and flowmaster exhaust system very soon.
'74 GMC 1500 Super Custom, Factory 3/4 ton springs, rebuilt 350/TH350, ceramic headers, 2 1/2" duals w/ H-Pipe, 40-series delta-flow Flowmasters, Gibson tips, 15x8 eagle alloy 058 wheels and 31/10.5/15 ProComp M/T's, Fey Outlaw 8" drop bumper. More mods soon...
'95 Impala SS Flowmaster cat-back, K&N, 285/40/17 Firehawks, Dark cherry metallic, 27,000 miles, extreamly fun vehicle
'95 Chevy K2500, ex-cab, long bed, 350, AT, Flowmaster cat-back, 265/75/16 Mud Kings, 16x7.5 Centerline HT cast
wheels, Leer high rise canope, bed liner w/ mat, loaded.**FOR SALE**


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'29 Chrysler model 65 all original, 2nd owner ***FOR SALE***
'63 Impala SS 283, 3-on-the tree, flowmaster 2 1/4" dual exhaust, performer intake, edelbrock 600 carb, chrome 15x8 rally's
'65 Impala SS, built 332, 700R4, 3.73, 2 1/2" mandral bent duals w/H pipe, Flowmaster 40-series deltaflows, MSD Mallory, too many modifications to list
'72 Chevy Suburban 4x4, NP205, TH350, balanced 357 (.040 350), 268 high energy cam, 9.2:1 comp, 1.94/1.50 heads (ENGINE BUILT BY THE GREAT RAYZOR or if you know him RAY, WHO POSTS ON THIS BOARD AND CHEVYTALK), 3/4 ton leaf springs, 4" lift, 35/12.5/16.5 Grabber MT's, Rancho shocks, Rancho dual steering stabalizer, American Eagle 143's 16.5x9.75 6 lug, 4.10's, 12 bolt rear limited slip, Dana 44 front limited slip. Carter 600, performer intake, headers and flowmaster exhaust system very soon.
'74 GMC 1500 Super Custom, Factory 3/4 ton springs, built 400sb w/3947040 heads, 475 hp, 750 edelbrock, ceramic headers, TH350, B&M holeshot 2000, 2 1/2" duals w/ H-Pipe, 40-series delta-flow Flowmasters, Gibson tips, Fey Outlaw 8" drop bumper.
'95 Impala SS Flowmaster cat-back, K&N, 255/50/17 G-Force T/A, Dark cherry metallic, 27,000 miles, extreamly fun vehicle
'95 Chevy K2500, ex-cab, long bed, 350, AT, Flowmaster cat-back, 265/75/16 Mud Kings, 16x7.5 Centerline HT cast
wheels, Leer high rise canope, bed liner w/ mat, loaded.**FOR SALE**
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Old 04-18-2002, 06:18 PM   #2
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this is my set up in my 70 4x4 3/4 ton

350ci bored .040 over
sportsman II angled plug heads 64cc
flat top pistons
9.5:1 compression
performer intake
edelbrock 1405 carb (600cfm)
comp cams extreme 4x4 cam #12-231-2
stock ratio roller rockers

not sure about horse power, but with th350, 4.10 gears, and 33"x12.5" tires from a dead stop on dry pavement it will keep on turning the tires over into 3rd gear no problem
(don't want to do that often though)

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Old 04-18-2002, 06:26 PM   #3
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I would look at the dart iron eagles,IMO they have some nice features(bronze liners,& a heartshaped chamber). ....69 longhorn.
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Old 04-22-2002, 04:53 PM   #4
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Does anyone else have a recommendation? I have thought about just having the stock heads milled down to 72cc and do some porting and polishing.

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'29 Chrysler model 65 all original, 2nd owner ***FOR SALE***
'63 Impala SS 283, 3-on-the tree, flowmaster 2 1/4" dual exhaust, performer intake, edelbrock 600 carb, chrome 15x8 rally's
'65 Impala SS, built 332, 700R4, 3.73, 2 1/2" mandral bent duals w/H pipe, Flowmaster 40-series deltaflows, MSD Mallory, too many modifications to list
'72 Chevy Suburban 4x4, NP205, TH350, balanced 357 (.040 350), 268 high energy cam, 9.2:1 comp, 1.94/1.50 heads (ENGINE BUILT BY THE GREAT RAYZOR or if you know him RAY, WHO POSTS ON THIS BOARD AND CHEVYTALK), 3/4 ton leaf springs, 4" lift, 35/12.5/16.5 Grabber MT's, Rancho shocks, Rancho dual steering stabalizer, American Eagle 143's 16.5x9.75 6 lug, 4.10's, 12 bolt rear limited slip, Dana 44 front limited slip. Carter 600, performer intake, headers and flowmaster exhaust system very soon.
'74 GMC 1500 Super Custom, Factory 3/4 ton springs, rebuilt 350/TH350, ceramic headers, 2 1/2" duals w/ H-Pipe, 40-series delta-flow Flowmasters, Gibson tips, 15x8 eagle alloy 058 wheels and 31/10.5/15 ProComp M/T's, Fey Outlaw 8" drop bumper. More mods soon...
'95 Impala SS Flowmaster cat-back, K&N, 285/40/17 Firehawks, Dark cherry metallic, 27,000 miles, extreamly fun vehicle
'95 Chevy K2500, ex-cab, long bed, 350, AT, Flowmaster cat-back, 265/75/16 Mud Kings, 16x7.5 Centerline HT cast
wheels, Leer high rise canope, bed liner w/ mat, loaded.**FOR SALE**


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'29 Chrysler model 65 all original, 2nd owner ***FOR SALE***
'63 Impala SS 283, 3-on-the tree, flowmaster 2 1/4" dual exhaust, performer intake, edelbrock 600 carb, chrome 15x8 rally's
'65 Impala SS, built 332, 700R4, 3.73, 2 1/2" mandral bent duals w/H pipe, Flowmaster 40-series deltaflows, MSD Mallory, too many modifications to list
'72 Chevy Suburban 4x4, NP205, TH350, balanced 357 (.040 350), 268 high energy cam, 9.2:1 comp, 1.94/1.50 heads (ENGINE BUILT BY THE GREAT RAYZOR or if you know him RAY, WHO POSTS ON THIS BOARD AND CHEVYTALK), 3/4 ton leaf springs, 4" lift, 35/12.5/16.5 Grabber MT's, Rancho shocks, Rancho dual steering stabalizer, American Eagle 143's 16.5x9.75 6 lug, 4.10's, 12 bolt rear limited slip, Dana 44 front limited slip. Carter 600, performer intake, headers and flowmaster exhaust system very soon.
'74 GMC 1500 Super Custom, Factory 3/4 ton springs, built 400sb w/3947040 heads, 475 hp, 750 edelbrock, ceramic headers, TH350, B&M holeshot 2000, 2 1/2" duals w/ H-Pipe, 40-series delta-flow Flowmasters, Gibson tips, Fey Outlaw 8" drop bumper.
'95 Impala SS Flowmaster cat-back, K&N, 255/50/17 G-Force T/A, Dark cherry metallic, 27,000 miles, extreamly fun vehicle
'95 Chevy K2500, ex-cab, long bed, 350, AT, Flowmaster cat-back, 265/75/16 Mud Kings, 16x7.5 Centerline HT cast
wheels, Leer high rise canope, bed liner w/ mat, loaded.**FOR SALE**
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Old 04-22-2002, 07:49 PM   #5
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Sportsman IIs are for high performance and racing. You would be better off with the SR Torquer for mild street duty. They have prox 170cc intake port volume for good velocity at low-mid RPM. The Sportsman IIs have 200cc intake ports for better flow at higher RPMs at the expense of low speed throttle response. The Sportman IIs would also work best with a bigger cam and Performer RPM manifold. By the way, I have Dart Iron Eagles and cannot recommend them. Very sloppy castings, lower head bolt bosses are too thick for standard head bolt lengths, intake ports don't match gaskets, etc, etc. Frankly, if I were buying new cast iron heads, I'd get the Chevy Vortecs for prox $420 a pair or the SR Torquers. The Vortecs do require a Vortec manifold (Edelbrock makes 'em) and center-bolt valve covers, and maybe better springs, but they flow like crazy. The SR Torqers are ready-to-go right out of the box and let you choose from 67cc or 76cc chamber size. The Vortecs are 64cc.

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