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Old 03-22-2010, 09:59 AM   #1
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Re: Boss 338 Wheels **GROUP BUY**

Here's a quote from Benji:
"here is my 72 bagged, still have to cut out the front fenders and tube out the back to it will go lower"

I think he means tub out the back.
I just measured up a truck with 20x10's with the narrower 67-70 rearend housing.
His backspace numbers were 4.75 inches.
These wheels are 6.225" BS.

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Old 03-22-2010, 10:26 AM   #2
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Here's a quote from Benji:
"here is my 72 bagged, still have to cut out the front fenders and tube out the back to it will go lower" I think he means tub out the back.
My impression is that in order to drop it lower he needed more height in the tubs, not width. In another post, he said, "i still need to cut the front fenders and modify my bed to go lower when i slam the bags," which is pretty much the case with everyone wanting to "lay frame" or whatever the young whippersnappers call it, at least as I understand it. If width was an issue, I don't think it would sit as low as it does in the pics. I am not saying that people won't need spacers, and I'm not arguing in any way -- just trying to accurately report what others are experiencing.

To be clear: There is no substitute for measuring your own setup and determining exactly what you need.

I'm curious, Keith ... since you started the original behemoth Boss 338 thread, do you know what the owner of the truck you photographed did with the rear wheels? And you've got these wheels, too, so what have you done about the rear backspacing? Sorry if this is answered elsewhere, but I can't take time at work to read through the 28 pages in that thread plus search through your other posts elsewhere.
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Old 03-22-2010, 11:03 AM   #3
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Re: Boss 338 Wheels **GROUP BUY**

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My impression is that in order to drop it lower he needed more height in the tubs, not width. In another post, he said, "i still need to cut the front fenders and modify my bed to go lower when i slam the bags," which is pretty much the case with everyone wanting to "lay frame" or whatever the young whippersnappers call it, at least as I understand it. If width was an issue, I don't think it would sit as low as it does in the pics. I am not saying that people won't need spacers, and I'm not arguing in any way -- just trying to accurately report what others are experiencing.

To be clear: There is no substitute for measuring your own setup and determining exactly what you need.

I'm curious, Keith ... since you started the original behemoth Boss 338 thread, do you know what the owner of the truck you photographed did with the rear wheels? And you've got these wheels, too, so what have you done about the rear backspacing? Sorry if this is answered elsewhere, but I can't take time at work to read through the 28 pages in that thread plus search through your other posts elsewhere.
The truck I photographed had 20x8.5's on all four corners. He had a spacer on the back.
I haven't mounted my wheels on a truck yet. My 69 is still 6-lug. I plan to run spacers,... I always have.
I think without them they will contact the wheel tubs.(especially with the 67-70 rearend). My blazer has the wider 71-72 rearend and I have a 5.5" bs wheel on it,... and it is close on the inside. No room for another .725" of backspace.
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Old 03-22-2010, 11:16 AM   #4
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The truck I photographed had 20x8.5's on all four corners. He had a spacer on the back.
Ah. I was confused because you said this: "Anyway,... they are 20x10 (6.250" bs) and 20x8.5 (5.250" bs) with the ever popular 5x5 bolt pattern." I thought you were referring to the truck shown, not the rims you ordered. Guess I could have seen that had it occurred to me to look at the width of the chrome lip.


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I haven't mounted my wheels on a truck yet. My 69 is still 6-lug. I plan to run spacers,... I always have.
I think without them they will contact the wheel tubs.(especially with the 67-70 rearend). My blazer has the wider 71-72 rearend and I have a 5.5" bs wheel on it,... and it is close on the inside. No room for another .725" of backspace.
Okay, so obviously it can be done with spacers, which will cost people about $60. Maybe I'm just misinterpreting what you've written, but you've really seemed to be badmouthing the 20x10 option when a cheap solution is not only possible but is in fact what you intend to use. Yes, it's obviously something people should consider when looking at these rims, but I think you've managed to scare away several people over what amounts to a minor issue that's easily resolved. (No offense; that's just how it comes across.)
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Ah. I was confused because you said this: "Anyway,... they are 20x10 (6.250" bs) and 20x8.5 (5.250" bs) with the ever popular 5x5 bolt pattern." I thought you were referring to the truck shown, not the rims you ordered. Guess I could have seen that had it occurred to me to look at the width of the chrome lip.




Okay, so obviously it can be done with spacers, which will cost people about $60. Maybe I'm just misinterpreting what you've written, but you've really seemed to be badmouthing the 20x10 option when a cheap solution is not only possible but is in fact what you intend to use. Yes, it's obviously something people should consider when looking at these rims, but I think you've managed to scare away several people over what amounts to a minor issue that's easily resolved. (No offense; that's just how it comes across.)
No offense taken.
If people are scared to run spacers,... that's their option.
I just don't think people understand or realize what a 6.225" bs means.

I just want everyone to know what they are getting.
I would never run anything other than 8.5's up front and 10's in the rear with these 338 wheels. I always planned to run spacers on the rear.
I also switched to 1" rotors up front because I didn't want to use a spacer up front. (the 5.25" BS on the 8.5's is just barely enough for my liking)

My biggest pet peeve with wheels is the wrong backspace.
In my opinion,... the wheels have to fit the truck.
The offsets have to be different due to the wider track width of the front suspension. (or the rear wheels need to be wider)
Again,... this is just my opinion.

I'll get out of this thread.
I seem to be doing more harm than good.

SCOTI posted alot of good info about running the 20x10's with this 6.225" BS,... and no one seemed to be listening. So I chimed in with the spacer comment.
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My 68 w/the stock 68 12-bolt could use 5-5.50" back-spacing. I installed 5.50"BS wheels that required mini-tubbing the bed floor. Add an additional .725" & it would only be worse. The use of a wider 71-72 rear might work better here but I'm not sure how much clearance would be there.....

The 5.50"BS was about the max I could use on my 74 (w/stock 74 12-bolt). Again, any more back-spacing would require mini-tubbing. There might be a slight chance they'd fit but it would be close.


The easy solution for everyone running a 15x8 ralley wheel, is to go out and see if you have another 2-3/16" or 2-1/4" of room between the inside edge of the wheel and the wheel tub. If you do fine. They will work.
(Just be sure to measure both sides of the truck,... because they are usually different)
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My biggest pet peeve with wheels is the wrong backspace.
In my opinion,... the wheels have to fit the truck.
The offsets have to be different due to the wider track width of the front suspension. (or the rear wheels need to be wider)
Again,... this is just my opinion.
I value your opinion...
So in other words this is the reason why one "shouldn't", in your opinion, run 20x8.5 all the way around, unless the individual is planning on running a spacer in the rear, correct?
20x10 will fit in the rear for my truck, I was just thinking of the rotating purposes for the 20x8.5 all the way around, but if it won't look right, then I would rather go with staggered.

Thanks for all the info, lolife that includes you
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