sound deadener

[solidaxel]

Hy tech coating with glass sphears first layer under color, Top bottom and everything else!

[4LUG39]

^^^That is what we have always used at the shop and no one has ever came back and said that the sound levels were to high or it was to hot inside the vehicle.

James

[rob32472]

I used lizard skin, and dynamat on project codfish....... sure make a huge difference

[Shane]

google home made lizard skin ... you'll be amazed at how cheap you can make your own.

[Kid]

Originally Posted by Strut

Has anyone used Lizard Skin Coatings? I had planed to use this not only for sound deadening but to seal up all the seams in the floor.... It can be sanded and painted over too.

http://www.lizardskin.com/pages/sound_control.php

I used Lizard Skin all over interior of cab, then Second Skin Damplifier Pro over the Lizard Skin on floor, I'm very pleased with the performance, both as a heat blocker & sound deadener.

[Strut]

Originally Posted by Kid

I used Lizard Skin all over interior of cab, then Second Skin Damplifier Pro over the Lizard Skin on floor, I'm very pleased with the performance, both as a heat blocker & sound deadener.

Do you have any pictures of what it looks like?

[Kid]

some pictures in link below, minus the Damplifer Pro, didn't take pics of that

http://67-72chevytrucks.com/vboard/s...=154951&page=3

[swamp rat]

Originally Posted by solidaxel

Hy tech coating with glass sphears first layer under color, Top bottom and everything else!

Curious cause i'm not a body man, if i decide to use the stuff and down the road a rust problem pops up because it was hidden inside a rocker or cab support, how hard it it to remove the stuff you use? can it be media blasted off? Thanks,

[70cst10_05]

I'm curious as to what some of you are doing with the exposed areas of the sound deadener? Like up front on the firewall where the carpet ends. Is the stuff paintable or do you make sure you have something to cover it all up?

[Nova70]

I have experience with just about every deadener out there. My advice is stay away from anything tar based. The only two that in my opinion are even worth buying is FatMat's MegaMat or Second Skin Damplifier. They're both Butyl and work 10x better than anything else out there. The tar based stuff easily peels off and in some cases the smell of the tar lingers in the car forever. If you're going to deaden, do it right. FatMat MegaMat is the cheaper of the two (100 sq. ft. for $240) and works very well. I have about 130 sq. ft. in my cab along with a layer of Second Skin's Luxury Liner Pro. It's about as quiet as a new luxury car.

Butyl based is the only way to go.

Edit- as for the spray stuff I have never used any but really want to. Everyone I know that has used it says it's excellent stuff.

[dan42]

Originally Posted by eightbanger

I reckon if these old trucks had this stuff installed when they were built, with all the rainwater leaks that they developed over the years there wouldn't be a solid cab floor in the country today. I'll stick with the old fashioned underlay, I can remove that stuff and dry the whole thing out if need be before the damage is done....JMO.

Good point - except in a lot of areas of the country, we either don't get much rain (like here), the truck is garaged, or it isn't driven in the rain. If it is, then it's probably a daily driver, and you're a little less picky about how it looks in the long run.

[Beat68CST]

What's the best for Heat AND Sound insulation?


When the air temp is 115 out here the asphalt is usually 150...

Hoping to keep the truck semi-coool.

[Nova70]

That would require a two step process. The sound deadener does just what it says, reduces sound. For some insulation you would want to go with some second heat wave or a similar product.

Heat Wave Pro

[tk-mpl]

Does anybody have any experience with B-quiet. I was going to try it..

Trevor

[swamp rat]

I would still like to know if any of the products listed are easy to remove if you end up having a hidden rust issue rear its ugly head? by sander or maybe heat gun?

[Nova70]

You can remove it but it will not be re-usable. You can peel it off while applying heat.

B-Quiet is tar based and I would not recommend it.

[kevmcrae]

I did my whole interior and inside my doors and door panels with butyl window sealer from Home Depot! 50 ft roll for $17. Used two rolls. It's half the thickness of Dynamat but like 1/10th the cost. I figured I would just double it up if I needed to. but after putting just one layer on I'm happy.

[PLANETGETLOW]

Anybody know what the square footage is to do the inside of the cab (floor/back cab, etc)

[Shane]

Originally Posted by PLANETGETLOW

Anybody know what the square footage is to do the inside of the cab (floor/back cab, etc)

somewhere between 60-70 ft/sq. ... that will cover the firewall up to the windshield, cab floor and back wall up to rear window.

I bought 100 ft/sq of FatMat (two 50 ft/sq rolls) and have covered the areas described above and have little less than one full roll left to do the doors.

hope this helps.

[PLANETGETLOW]

Originally Posted by Shane

somewhere between 60-70 ft/sq. ... that will cover the firewall up to the windshield, cab floor and back wall up to rear window.

I bought 100 ft/sq of FatMat (two 50 ft/sq rolls) and have covered the areas described above and have little less than one full roll left to do the doors.

hope this helps.

Thanks, it does!!

[Dan in Pasadena]

Originally Posted by kevmcrae

I did my whole interior and inside my doors and door panels with butyl window sealer from Home Depot! 50 ft roll for $17. Used two rolls. It's half the thickness of Dynamat but like 1/10th the cost. I figured I would just double it up if I needed to. but after putting just one layer on I'm happy.

DO you know the product name? Any smell or adverse things that you make up for withthe use of automotive-intended products?

If something like that would work I'd have no problem using two layers under foot or on the inside of the firewall...as long as it doesn't feel "squishy" under foot, smell, move after installtion, etc.

Did all you guys sandblast, wire wheel, or at least sand (and maybe paint?) before putting these products on?

[bigguy69]

Originally Posted by kevmcrae

I did my whole interior and inside my doors and door panels with butyl window sealer from Home Depot! 50 ft roll for $17. Used two rolls. It's half the thickness of Dynamat but like 1/10th the cost. I figured I would just double it up if I needed to. but after putting just one layer on I'm happy.

http://www.homedepot.com/h_d1/N-5yc1...atalogId=10053

was this what you used?

[swamp rat]

Originally Posted by Nova70

You can remove it but it will not be re-usable. You can peel it off while applying heat.

B-Quiet is tar based and I would not recommend it.

Thanks Nova70!

[lakeroadster]

Originally Posted by kevmcrae

I did my whole interior and inside my doors and door panels with butyl window sealer from Home Depot! 50 ft roll for $17. Used two rolls. It's half the thickness of Dynamat but like 1/10th the cost. I figured I would just double it up if I needed to. but after putting just one layer on I'm happy.

Originally Posted by Dan in Pasadena

DO you know the product name? Any smell or adverse things that you make up for withthe use of automotive-intended products?

If something like that would work I'd have no problem using two layers under foot or on the inside of the firewall...as long as it doesn't feel "squishy" under foot, smell, move after installtion, etc.

Did all you guys sandblast, wire wheel, or at least sand (and maybe paint?) before putting these products on?

I too have been looking for a cost effective sound deadener. But using non automotive products can present problems especially in an enclosed interior application. I went to Protecto Wrap's website for more data on the Protecto Wrap BT25XL Window & Door Sealing Tape.

Protecto Wrap BT25XL Window & Door Sealing Tape http://www.protectowrap.com/pdf/msds/bt25xl-msds.pdf
It is an asphalt based product.

APPEARANCE AND ODOR: Opaque black, tacky solid with no odor.
MELTING POINT: 220°F (104°C) (Softening Point)

EMERGENCY OVERVIEW
This product is a black, opaque, tacky solid with no odor. Product is not flammable but will burn under
fire conditions. May cause mild eye and skin irritation. Contact with heated product may cause thermal
burns. Inhalation of vapors from heated product may cause irritation of the nose, throat and respiratory
system. This product contains crystalline silica in the form of quartz. Prolonged overexposure to
respirable crystalline silica may cause lung disease (silicosis) and increase the risk of lung cancer.

[kevmcrae]

Protecto window and door wrap is a butyl rubber like the other sound deadeners. They also make a .60 mil thick, aluminum backed product called Audio Wrap. Also butyl for $156 for a 15 inch by 50ft roll. They claim better test results than the leading competitors. www.audiowrap.com