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toolboxchev · 05-09-2020, 03:01 PM

First of all would like to say I wish to stick with Original GM parts just for the sake of being here.

Found some heads for sale and of course will have them inspected. Angle plug style, have more than good flow for a near stock or a bit more engine. Like the idea of staying with cast iron, despite detonation issues can crop up.

Casting #14011034 supposed to be some good stuff, would anyone have additional insight to these other than what I find on the net?

I may change the valve springs and other stuff but the guy has them set up pretty darn good, new bronze guides, guide plates, 7/16 screw in studs, seals, springs, locks and so on.

Do they have a dark side? or maybe its just me wanting to burn some serious fuel!

Mike C · 05-09-2020, 08:37 PM

Google says those are the phase II Bowtie heads and should be better performance wise than any assembly line head for sure. But they are only as good as the machine work and making sure no cracks.

If they are priced fairly I would consider getting them. But they would have to be in the $500 for me. Because if I am spending $1000 on small block heads I would get an aluminum head.

**Captainfab** · 05-09-2020, 09:48 PM

What is the CC of the intake ports?

toolboxchev · 05-10-2020, 12:31 AM

If I remember from research from earlier today they are 185 cc Intake runners. Here is the ad. Guy would like to get 1500 for them, he does have some work in them for sure. Complains that he is upside down. Seems like those angle plugs would work with ram horn manifolds, a bonus for me as I have a set.

Thats a downer for me.

https://portland.craigslist.org/clk/...113057738.html

I just cant see spending that kinda dough for Iron. As much as I would like to use them for a nice street build.

Tom · 05-11-2020, 04:37 PM

Good god $1500 for iron bowties? Unless a racing class requires it then hell no.
If you want oem iron heads then the only option worth looking at is vortecs. Everything else is money wasted. /thread.

GASoline71 · 05-12-2020, 01:15 PM

He's pretty much got all the "right stuff" in there. Even upgraded to 7/16" rocker studs. But I agree with Tom, for that much cash, unless I'm in racing in some class that required a stock type head, there are way better options out there.

Don't overlook the aftermarket. There are some great heads out there for way under $1,500 bucks.

Gary

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Mike C Registered User Join Date: Dec 1999 Location: Austin, TX, USA Posts: 7,709	Re: Head Casting Question Google says those are the phase II Bowtie heads and should be better performance wise than any assembly line head for sure. But they are only as good as the machine work and making sure no cracks. If they are priced fairly I would consider getting them. But they would have to be in the $500 for me. Because if I am spending $1000 on small block heads I would get an aluminum head. __________________ 44 Willys MB 52 M38A1 64 Corvette Coupe 68 Camaro 'vert LT1 & TH700 69 Z/28 355 12.6's @110 69 Chevy Short Step 4 1/2"/7" drop 72 Jimmy 4WD 4spd 4" & 35's 02 GMC 2500HD 4x4 Duramax

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toolboxchev Registered User Join Date: Jul 2015 Location: 2nd left past the stump on a dirt road. Posts: 2,629	Re: Head Casting Question If I remember from research from earlier today they are 185 cc Intake runners. Here is the ad. Guy would like to get 1500 for them, he does have some work in them for sure. Complains that he is upside down. Seems like those angle plugs would work with ram horn manifolds, a bonus for me as I have a set. Thats a downer for me. https://portland.craigslist.org/clk/...113057738.html I just cant see spending that kinda dough for Iron. As much as I would like to use them for a nice street build.

05-11-2020, 04:37 PM	#5
Tom driving is in my blood Join Date: Dec 1999 Location: Mesa AZ Posts: 5,690	Re: Head Casting Question Good god $1500 for iron bowties? Unless a racing class requires it then hell no. If you want oem iron heads then the only option worth looking at is vortecs. Everything else is money wasted. /thread. __________________ -78 c10 short/step: 388cid, M20, 5/5 drop, lots more. Playtoy and first vehicle. -98 c1500 x-cab: 5.7L, 17" rims, 5/6 drop, flowmaster, helper bags,NBS rear disk brakes. -02 Suburban 4x4: leveled front -CBR600F4i, CBR600RR, CBR1000RR, and standup skis DISCLAIMER: I cant spell for the life of me.

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05-09-2020, 03:01 PM	#1
toolboxchev Registered User Join Date: Jul 2015 Location: 2nd left past the stump on a dirt road. Posts: 2,629	Head Casting Question First of all would like to say I wish to stick with Original GM parts just for the sake of being here. Found some heads for sale and of course will have them inspected. Angle plug style, have more than good flow for a near stock or a bit more engine. Like the idea of staying with cast iron, despite detonation issues can crop up. Casting #14011034 supposed to be some good stuff, would anyone have additional insight to these other than what I find on the net? I may change the valve springs and other stuff but the guy has them set up pretty darn good, new bronze guides, guide plates, 7/16 screw in studs, seals, springs, locks and so on. Do they have a dark side? or maybe its just me wanting to burn some serious fuel!



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