The 1947 - Present Chevrolet & GMC Truck Message Board Network







Register or Log In To remove these advertisements.

Go Back   The 1947 - Present Chevrolet & GMC Truck Message Board Network > General Truck Forums > Electrical

Web 67-72chevytrucks.com


Reply
 
Thread Tools Display Modes
Old 11-05-2020, 07:19 PM   #1
Andy4639
Old member
 
Andy4639's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2002
Location: Liberty, & Garden City S.C. , U.S.
Posts: 19,936
Question Panel light fuse

I keep blowing the fuse for the cluster lights. Bottom right corner fuse. It will work for awhile but not long. I think it maybe from the wire under the light bulb I installed to ground it. I have a new printed circuit on order but hasn't arrived yet.

Are maybe something else....


I just found this, wish I'd found it last week before I ordered mine.

https://www.ebay.com/itm/Printed-Cir....c100227.m3827
Attached Images
  
__________________
1971 LWB Custom, 6.0LS & 4L80E, Speedhut.com GPS speedometer & gauges with A/C. 20" Boss 338's Grey wheels 4 wheel disc brakes. My Driver
Seeing the USA in a 71


Upstate SC GM Truck Club
2013,14 and 2016 Hot Rod Pour Tour


http://upstategmtrucks.com/



Get out and drive the truck this summer and have some fun!
It sucks not being able to hear!

LWB trucks rule, if you don't think so measure your SWB!
After talking to tech support at Air Lift I have found out that the kit I need is 60811. Per the measurements I gave them. Ride height of truck inside spring and inside diameter of springs.

Last edited by Andy4639; 11-05-2020 at 07:51 PM.
Andy4639 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 11-05-2020, 07:44 PM   #2
dmjlambert
Senior Member
 
dmjlambert's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2016
Location: Cypress, TX
Posts: 3,561
Re: Panel light fuse

I recommend remove the wire you added under the light bulb. If your gash was right next to pin 7 on the cluster connector where the ground wire goes to the cluster, then all you have to do is ignore that gash and connect a wire to the screw that is right next to the cluster connector, and attach the other end of that wire to a good ground point behind the dash.
Attached Images
 

Last edited by dmjlambert; 11-05-2020 at 07:52 PM. Reason: clarity
dmjlambert is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 11-05-2020, 07:49 PM   #3
Getter-Done
Senior Member
 
Getter-Done's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2009
Location: TN.
Posts: 7,701
Re: Panel light fuse

Are the isolators for Temp / gas /, and amp gauge okay?

Probably so /would not take long to check them/
If they are loose or ____? They could cause an issue.

Just trying to help









.
__________________
________________________________________________________________________________________
____________________________________________
84 Chevy K-20
63 Impala (my high school car)

http://67-72chevytrucks.com/vboard/s...Crew Cab Build
Getter-Done is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 11-05-2020, 07:59 PM   #4
Andy4639
Old member
 
Andy4639's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2002
Location: Liberty, & Garden City S.C. , U.S.
Posts: 19,936
Question Re: Panel light fuse

This is what I did.

All the gauges work. The fuse just keeps popping and the only thing I have done is add that wire to the bulb and then to ground.




__________________
1971 LWB Custom, 6.0LS & 4L80E, Speedhut.com GPS speedometer & gauges with A/C. 20" Boss 338's Grey wheels 4 wheel disc brakes. My Driver
Seeing the USA in a 71


Upstate SC GM Truck Club
2013,14 and 2016 Hot Rod Pour Tour


http://upstategmtrucks.com/



Get out and drive the truck this summer and have some fun!
It sucks not being able to hear!

LWB trucks rule, if you don't think so measure your SWB!
After talking to tech support at Air Lift I have found out that the kit I need is 60811. Per the measurements I gave them. Ride height of truck inside spring and inside diameter of springs.
Andy4639 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 11-05-2020, 08:00 PM   #5
dmjlambert
Senior Member
 
dmjlambert's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2016
Location: Cypress, TX
Posts: 3,561
Re: Panel light fuse

I thought of a better idea. Remove extra wire you added under the bulb. Notice that the copper traces of printed circuit that go down into the cluster connector hole are just places for the pins on the cluster connector to rest and make contact. Remove the piece of printed circuit including plastic and copper trace, that goes down into the cluster connector hole that is for the ground pin (pin 7). This will let the cluster connector pin 7 just make contact with the metal of the cluster.
dmjlambert is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 11-05-2020, 08:09 PM   #6
Andy4639
Old member
 
Andy4639's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2002
Location: Liberty, & Garden City S.C. , U.S.
Posts: 19,936
Question Re: Panel light fuse

Quote:
Originally Posted by dmjlambert View Post
I thought of a better idea. Remove extra wire you added under the bulb. Notice that the copper traces of printed circuit that go down into the cluster connector hole are just places for the pins on the cluster connector to rest and make contact. Remove the piece of printed circuit including plastic and copper trace, that goes down into the cluster connector hole that is for the ground pin (pin 7). This will let the cluster connector pin 7 just make contact with the metal of the cluster.
That may work. I may try it tomorrow in the day light. I really don't want to pull the cluster again until I get the new P/C board. I should be able to do this with out pulling it.
If I do this will it ground though? The bulbs housing's will all be on the backside of the P/C board and not touching the metal of the cluster right?
__________________
1971 LWB Custom, 6.0LS & 4L80E, Speedhut.com GPS speedometer & gauges with A/C. 20" Boss 338's Grey wheels 4 wheel disc brakes. My Driver
Seeing the USA in a 71


Upstate SC GM Truck Club
2013,14 and 2016 Hot Rod Pour Tour


http://upstategmtrucks.com/



Get out and drive the truck this summer and have some fun!
It sucks not being able to hear!

LWB trucks rule, if you don't think so measure your SWB!
After talking to tech support at Air Lift I have found out that the kit I need is 60811. Per the measurements I gave them. Ride height of truck inside spring and inside diameter of springs.
Andy4639 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 11-05-2020, 10:01 PM   #7
VetteVet
Msgt USAF Ret

 
VetteVet's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2005
Location: Kalamazoo, Michigan
Posts: 8,703
Re: Panel light fuse

Andy pull your pnl lts fuse and connect your multimeter between the clips with it set on amps and turn the cluster lights on and see how much amperage you are drawing. The 10 amp setting is what you need to set it on. You shouldn't see more than 3 amps. .
__________________
VetteVet

metallic green 67 stepside
74 corvette convertible
1965 Harley sportster
1995 Harley wide glide

Growing old is hell, but it beats the alternative.
VetteVet is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 11-05-2020, 11:14 PM   #8
dmjlambert
Senior Member
 
dmjlambert's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2016
Location: Cypress, TX
Posts: 3,561
Re: Panel light fuse

Quote:
Originally Posted by Andy4639 View Post
That may work. I may try it tomorrow in the day light. I really don't want to pull the cluster again until I get the new P/C board. I should be able to do this with out pulling it.
If I do this will it ground though? The bulbs housing's will all be on the backside of the P/C board and not touching the metal of the cluster right?
Yes, it should ground, if your black wire in the wire bundle goes to ground. The bulb holder terminals will get their grounds through the traces.

In the stock setup, the ground is provided to the cluster through the ground wire in the connector contacting the terminal with the printed circuit at contact marked with the 1. The ground then goes to the leftmost bulb using the trace. Along the way, the ground is also transferred to the metal case at screw marked with the 2. The ground then transfers from the metal case back to the printed circuit at the screw marked with the 3. The trace that contacts screw 3 provides the ground to the other bulbs.

If you cut the part of the printed circuit out that connects the ground at the place marked with the 1, the connector ground terminal will just provide ground straight to the metal case. Then screws 2 and 3 will transfer the ground to the traces and send the ground to the bulbs using the traces.

You can eliminate the extra wire you added under the bulb. That may be causing problems with your short to ground and blowing fuse. That was my line of thinking. I have not tried this, so no guarantees. Just seems logical to me.
Attached Images
 
dmjlambert is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 11-06-2020, 01:34 PM   #9
Andy4639
Old member
 
Andy4639's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2002
Location: Liberty, & Garden City S.C. , U.S.
Posts: 19,936
Thumbs up Re: Panel light fuse

Quote:
Originally Posted by VetteVet View Post
Andy pull your pnl lts fuse and connect your multimeter between the clips with it set on amps and turn the cluster lights on and see how much amperage you are drawing. The 10 amp setting is what you need to set it on. You shouldn't see more than 3 amps. .
This could be part of the problem. Last night I was looking at all the wiring under the dash and hooked to the panel light fuse. It was the side marker lights going down the side of the bed. I disconnected it and put it on the park light wire going to the tail end. It seems to be working for now. We will see haven't drove it yet. Just got finished checking everything again.
__________________
1971 LWB Custom, 6.0LS & 4L80E, Speedhut.com GPS speedometer & gauges with A/C. 20" Boss 338's Grey wheels 4 wheel disc brakes. My Driver
Seeing the USA in a 71


Upstate SC GM Truck Club
2013,14 and 2016 Hot Rod Pour Tour


http://upstategmtrucks.com/



Get out and drive the truck this summer and have some fun!
It sucks not being able to hear!

LWB trucks rule, if you don't think so measure your SWB!
After talking to tech support at Air Lift I have found out that the kit I need is 60811. Per the measurements I gave them. Ride height of truck inside spring and inside diameter of springs.
Andy4639 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 11-06-2020, 08:04 PM   #10
Andy4639
Old member
 
Andy4639's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2002
Location: Liberty, & Garden City S.C. , U.S.
Posts: 19,936
Talking Re: Panel light fuse

Well back to square 1 again. The fuse blew again after about 5 minutes of driving with all the lights on. I'm just going to wait until the new printed circuit gets here and install it. Hopefully that fixes it.
This all started when I added the wire to the bulb so I'm hoping once I get it all back together with new P/C board it will work just fine.
__________________
1971 LWB Custom, 6.0LS & 4L80E, Speedhut.com GPS speedometer & gauges with A/C. 20" Boss 338's Grey wheels 4 wheel disc brakes. My Driver
Seeing the USA in a 71


Upstate SC GM Truck Club
2013,14 and 2016 Hot Rod Pour Tour


http://upstategmtrucks.com/



Get out and drive the truck this summer and have some fun!
It sucks not being able to hear!

LWB trucks rule, if you don't think so measure your SWB!
After talking to tech support at Air Lift I have found out that the kit I need is 60811. Per the measurements I gave them. Ride height of truck inside spring and inside diameter of springs.
Andy4639 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 11-08-2020, 09:56 PM   #11
Andy4639
Old member
 
Andy4639's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2002
Location: Liberty, & Garden City S.C. , U.S.
Posts: 19,936
Talking Re: Panel light fuse

Well I think it's fixed.
I found a brand new printed circuit board in all my parts stash. So I installed the new board and it's working so far but I haven't tried the parking lights on the fuse yet. I did hook them up to the unfused circuit just to see if they would work and they did. It got dark on me so I'm going to look at it some more tomorrow.

I took the old circuit board and I think I fixed it also. I soldered a wire into the gash on it and cleaned up all the copper contacts, it does work on my test meter.
Attached Images
   
__________________
1971 LWB Custom, 6.0LS & 4L80E, Speedhut.com GPS speedometer & gauges with A/C. 20" Boss 338's Grey wheels 4 wheel disc brakes. My Driver
Seeing the USA in a 71


Upstate SC GM Truck Club
2013,14 and 2016 Hot Rod Pour Tour


http://upstategmtrucks.com/



Get out and drive the truck this summer and have some fun!
It sucks not being able to hear!

LWB trucks rule, if you don't think so measure your SWB!
After talking to tech support at Air Lift I have found out that the kit I need is 60811. Per the measurements I gave them. Ride height of truck inside spring and inside diameter of springs.
Andy4639 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 11-09-2020, 09:02 PM   #12
Andy4639
Old member
 
Andy4639's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2002
Location: Liberty, & Garden City S.C. , U.S.
Posts: 19,936
Question Re: Panel light fuse

OK, well so far so good. It hasn't blown the fuse yet. The latest update.

New P/C board installed. Normal ground wire to dash. Took the wire for the marker lights and tied it into the brown wire running the rear side marker lights. So far it seems to be working.

What I noticed to night though. The tool box I added and added a marker light to the outside of it. When I open it, the light's get bright. How does it do that?



https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mC2LFfbYlGU

__________________
1971 LWB Custom, 6.0LS & 4L80E, Speedhut.com GPS speedometer & gauges with A/C. 20" Boss 338's Grey wheels 4 wheel disc brakes. My Driver
Seeing the USA in a 71


Upstate SC GM Truck Club
2013,14 and 2016 Hot Rod Pour Tour


http://upstategmtrucks.com/



Get out and drive the truck this summer and have some fun!
It sucks not being able to hear!

LWB trucks rule, if you don't think so measure your SWB!
After talking to tech support at Air Lift I have found out that the kit I need is 60811. Per the measurements I gave them. Ride height of truck inside spring and inside diameter of springs.
Andy4639 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 11-10-2020, 12:01 AM   #13
VetteVet
Msgt USAF Ret

 
VetteVet's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2005
Location: Kalamazoo, Michigan
Posts: 8,703
Re: Panel light fuse

Your toolbox light probably has a better ground than the others so they are usig its ground for less resistance.
__________________
VetteVet

metallic green 67 stepside
74 corvette convertible
1965 Harley sportster
1995 Harley wide glide

Growing old is hell, but it beats the alternative.
VetteVet is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 11-10-2020, 07:17 PM   #14
Andy4639
Old member
 
Andy4639's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2002
Location: Liberty, & Garden City S.C. , U.S.
Posts: 19,936
Talking Re: Panel light fuse

Here is the new printed circuit board and the old one. Brown color is the new one. Looks OK but it's paper thin. Will have to be very careful installing it when I do use it. For $37.34 you can't beat that price as long as it works.

https://www.ebay.com/itm/302837960690
Attached Images
 
__________________
1971 LWB Custom, 6.0LS & 4L80E, Speedhut.com GPS speedometer & gauges with A/C. 20" Boss 338's Grey wheels 4 wheel disc brakes. My Driver
Seeing the USA in a 71


Upstate SC GM Truck Club
2013,14 and 2016 Hot Rod Pour Tour


http://upstategmtrucks.com/



Get out and drive the truck this summer and have some fun!
It sucks not being able to hear!

LWB trucks rule, if you don't think so measure your SWB!
After talking to tech support at Air Lift I have found out that the kit I need is 60811. Per the measurements I gave them. Ride height of truck inside spring and inside diameter of springs.
Andy4639 is offline   Reply With Quote
Reply

Bookmarks


Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off

Forum Jump


All times are GMT -4. The time now is 06:33 PM.


Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.11
Copyright ©2000 - 2024, vBulletin Solutions Inc.
Copyright 1997-2022 67-72chevytrucks.com