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wario26 · 06-09-2015, 04:15 PM

Ok this is the deal I have a friend that owns a wrecker service and he has a rolled over 2003 Suburban with the 5.3l in it. He is selling me the engine with harness, computer, gas pedal, brake system (brake booster, master cylinder brake pedal, brake lines), and everything that is in the gas tank and fuel lines. How much he wants you ask $650.00. Now the question is am I getting a good deal or not? Might seem like a dumb question but the only thing that has me thinking is the vehicle rolled over. Thanks for your input.

Bigdav160 · 06-09-2015, 04:20 PM

If you don't want it, I do

GASoline71 · 06-09-2015, 04:21 PM

See if he will throw in the transmission too.

Gary

wario26 · 06-09-2015, 04:22 PM

I'll take that as a good deal there Bigdav160...

**truckster** · 06-09-2015, 04:23 PM

The rollover could be a problem if, for example, it lost oiling and continued to run. Does the engine run now? Can you listen to it run?

wario26 · 06-09-2015, 04:23 PM

no transmission Gary. I tried but no.

alsriv2 · 06-09-2015, 04:29 PM

Should be a good deal. But as trickster mentioned, if the engine continued to run...

Kennuck · 06-09-2015, 04:38 PM

I could be wrong, but I believe the fuel system has a roll over cut off so it doesn't continue to run if it rolls.

MARKDTN · 06-09-2015, 04:56 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bigdav160

If you don't want it, I do

me too

**michael bustamante** · 06-09-2015, 05:02 PM

was it a rollover and landed on all fours or on the roof?

wario26 · 06-09-2015, 05:08 PM

I was told that they have some type of sensor that is the oil pressure gets to low it cuts off the engine whether it's true or not I don't know maybe someone has some guidance as to that.

wario26 · 06-09-2015, 05:09 PM

Mike
Looks like all fours on the roof.

WarMonger · 06-09-2015, 05:46 PM

Do you have any pics of the vehicle and motor?

**michael bustamante** · 06-09-2015, 05:49 PM

thats a hard dilema then if it landed on the roof. good luck on your decision.

cooperhw · 06-09-2015, 06:08 PM

I vote Yes, good deal.

wario26 · 06-09-2015, 06:16 PM

I'll get pics later, it looks like the oil came up to the intake as it rolled over and landed on the roof. But like i stated above i was told there is a sensor for the oil pressure if it gets to low it will shutoff the engine.

hugger6933 · 06-09-2015, 08:37 PM

I've built hundreds of rollovers in my shop[that is what I do build wrecks] in the last 30 odd years and I have never had a wreck related drive train fail from a rollover.
That money is about right I get right in that money for my 5.3's a little less for 4.8's. I usually get between 850 to 1250 for a loaded setup w/trans and couple hundred more for the 6.0/4l80E.
So the money is ok, next thing yes they will shut off in a roll and they will also cut the fuel in a low oil situation. There is a low pressure cut off and has been since the late 80's with the advent of TBI.
The only thing if there is oil present in the intake make double barrel sure you take out ALL 8 plug[ of the spark kind] and turn the motor over, by hand is ok just to be sure your not hydro-locked. The only time I've seen builders need a motor for a roll over was they did not do that step and when they went to start it it may have kicked before it turned all the way over and it will bend/break a connecting rod.

wario26 · 06-09-2015, 08:50 PM

Call me dumb but i really didnt understand the last part. (Kicked)

hugger6933 · 06-10-2015, 07:55 AM

I wouldn't dare call someone dumb for my poor lack of communicating. What I meant to say if someone tried to start the motor and it started before it cycled all of the oil out it [the motor] starts or tries and the oil in the cyl doesn't compress as a air fuel charge does that will bend or break a rod

wario26 · 06-10-2015, 09:16 AM

now I understand and thanks for the explanation and input.

06-09-2015, 04:15 PM	#1
wario26 Registered User Join Date: Jan 2015 Location: El Paso, Texas Posts: 47	Good Deal or no? Ok this is the deal I have a friend that owns a wrecker service and he has a rolled over 2003 Suburban with the 5.3l in it. He is selling me the engine with harness, computer, gas pedal, brake system (brake booster, master cylinder brake pedal, brake lines), and everything that is in the gas tank and fuel lines. How much he wants you ask $650.00. Now the question is am I getting a good deal or not? Might seem like a dumb question but the only thing that has me thinking is the vehicle rolled over. Thanks for your input.

06-09-2015, 04:20 PM	#2
Bigdav160 Registered User Join Date: Apr 2011 Location: Klein Texas Posts: 3,852	Re: Good Deal or no? If you don't want it, I do __________________ My Classics: '72 K20 Suburban + '65 Dodge Town Wagon '72 Corvette Roadster +'67 Corvette Roadster '73 Z-28 Camaro '63 Ford SWB Uni Pickup '50 Ford Coupe

06-09-2015, 04:22 PM	#4
wario26 Registered User Join Date: Jan 2015 Location: El Paso, Texas Posts: 47	Re: Good Deal or no? I'll take that as a good deal there Bigdav160...

06-09-2015, 04:23 PM	#5
truckster Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2001 Location: Orem, Utah Posts: 7,804	Re: Good Deal or no? The rollover could be a problem if, for example, it lost oiling and continued to run. Does the engine run now? Can you listen to it run?

06-09-2015, 04:23 PM	#6
wario26 Registered User Join Date: Jan 2015 Location: El Paso, Texas Posts: 47	Re: Good Deal or no? no transmission Gary. I tried but no.

06-09-2015, 04:29 PM	#7
alsriv2 Registered User Join Date: Sep 2010 Location: Formerly MD and San Diego, now loving life in Arizona Posts: 1,636	Re: Good Deal or no? Should be a good deal. But as trickster mentioned, if the engine continued to run... __________________ Alan 2012 Ram 3500 Dually Crew Cab 6.7 Cummins 2014 Palomino Columbus 340RK 5th wheel '69 Chevy C10 396BB

06-09-2015, 04:38 PM	#8
Kennuck Registered User Join Date: Oct 2013 Location: Dresden, Ontario Posts: 647	Re: Good Deal or no? I could be wrong, but I believe the fuel system has a roll over cut off so it doesn't continue to run if it rolls. __________________ 1970 Short Wide 5.3 4L60E BlackBear tune 3:73 gears, Boyd's Tank 2.5 / 4 drop 5 lug disc brakes Vintage Air 18x8 Ridlers 255/55 frt. 18x9.5 275/60 rear

06-09-2015, 05:02 PM	#10
michael bustamante Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Albuquerque NM Posts: 7,814	Re: Good Deal or no? was it a rollover and landed on all fours or on the roof? __________________ 1967custom

06-09-2015, 05:08 PM	#11
wario26 Registered User Join Date: Jan 2015 Location: El Paso, Texas Posts: 47	Re: Good Deal or no? I was told that they have some type of sensor that is the oil pressure gets to low it cuts off the engine whether it's true or not I don't know maybe someone has some guidance as to that.

06-09-2015, 05:09 PM	#12
wario26 Registered User Join Date: Jan 2015 Location: El Paso, Texas Posts: 47	Re: Good Deal or no? Mike Looks like all fours on the roof.

06-09-2015, 05:46 PM	#13
WarMonger Registered User Join Date: Jan 2015 Location: Ventura, CA Posts: 818	Re: Good Deal or no? Do you have any pics of the vehicle and motor? __________________ ..................... ____ .........________//__{\_____ ,,,,,,,/__(O)___//___/__(O)_/ 1970 C20 -_--_--_- ______ _--_--_- /___\|__\____ -_--_-_ \|_(0)\|__\|_(0)] 1972 K5

06-09-2015, 05:49 PM	#14
michael bustamante Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Albuquerque NM Posts: 7,814	Re: Good Deal or no? thats a hard dilema then if it landed on the roof. good luck on your decision. __________________ 1967custom

06-09-2015, 06:08 PM	#15
cooperhw Registered User Join Date: Oct 2014 Location: Mesa AZ (Near Phoenix) Posts: 2,302	Re: Good Deal or no? I vote Yes, good deal. __________________ "Life is too short to drive a boring vehicle". Later, Wayne

06-09-2015, 06:16 PM	#16
wario26 Registered User Join Date: Jan 2015 Location: El Paso, Texas Posts: 47	Re: Good Deal or no? I'll get pics later, it looks like the oil came up to the intake as it rolled over and landed on the roof. But like i stated above i was told there is a sensor for the oil pressure if it gets to low it will shutoff the engine.

06-09-2015, 08:37 PM	#17
hugger6933 Registered User Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: Marianna Arkansas Posts: 7,257	Re: Good Deal or no? I've built hundreds of rollovers in my shop[that is what I do build wrecks] in the last 30 odd years and I have never had a wreck related drive train fail from a rollover. That money is about right I get right in that money for my 5.3's a little less for 4.8's. I usually get between 850 to 1250 for a loaded setup w/trans and couple hundred more for the 6.0/4l80E. So the money is ok, next thing yes they will shut off in a roll and they will also cut the fuel in a low oil situation. There is a low pressure cut off and has been since the late 80's with the advent of TBI. The only thing if there is oil present in the intake make double barrel sure you take out ALL 8 plug[ of the spark kind] and turn the motor over, by hand is ok just to be sure your not hydro-locked. The only time I've seen builders need a motor for a roll over was they did not do that step and when they went to start it it may have kicked before it turned all the way over and it will bend/break a connecting rod.



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06-09-2015, 08:50 PM	#18
wario26 Registered User Join Date: Jan 2015 Location: El Paso, Texas Posts: 47	Re: Good Deal or no? Call me dumb but i really didnt understand the last part. (Kicked)

06-10-2015, 07:55 AM	#19
hugger6933 Registered User Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: Marianna Arkansas Posts: 7,257	Re: Good Deal or no? I wouldn't dare call someone dumb for my poor lack of communicating. What I meant to say if someone tried to start the motor and it started before it cycled all of the oil out it [the motor] starts or tries and the oil in the cyl doesn't compress as a air fuel charge does that will bend or break a rod

06-10-2015, 09:16 AM	#20
wario26 Registered User Join Date: Jan 2015 Location: El Paso, Texas Posts: 47	Re: Good Deal or no? now I understand and thanks for the explanation and input.

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