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**smitty62** · 08-15-2002, 04:18 PM

Hey Josh, I'll be glad to contribute, but I'll be just as up front with you---if the ads go, I'll no longer be interested. I like to chat, and I've learned a lot on here, but the parts are my main interest! I'm sure you're out of pocket on this, but perhaps if you were even more upfront with where the money is going? Or have I misunderstood something? An in-depth explanation might go a long way.

**ThreeQuarter** · 08-15-2002, 04:21 PM

Smitty I think he's referring to the advertisement banners at the top of the pages, etc. and not the classifieds.

*Shane* · 08-15-2002, 04:22 PM

Smitty...i think Josh is refering to the ads at the top of the pages (the ones that flash and what-not)....not the ads we post for selling or wanting to buy parts....or the ads for the suppliers......

***Josh*** · 08-15-2002, 04:24 PM

They are coorect, it's hte banner ads at the top of the page I am going to remove, not the parts boards, they're one of the busiest sections of the board.

Bill72BB · 08-15-2002, 04:27 PM

Josh ;
Donated last time will donate again , Have you thought about having somemore decals made ? I would like some White one's .

Thanks Bill

treefrog · 08-15-2002, 04:34 PM

Please post when you are able to accept USPS, I don't have paypal. I'm in. TF

**ThreeQuarter** · 08-15-2002, 05:15 PM

All good points, 68burb.

Donate however much the board is worth to you. That way everyone gets their money's worth.

dmnall · 08-15-2002, 05:31 PM

I will donate as well but I refuse to use Pay Pal (too many issues with their policies). As soon as you can take money by mail, I will definitely send some cash !

L@TeZ,

Charlie

Chevyc10! · 08-15-2002, 07:49 PM

Just tell me where to send a money order/ cashiers check etc. Only too happy to help...
Jake

**Palf70Step** · 08-15-2002, 08:25 PM

You can count me in too Joah. Just let me know when your set up for the mail/money order thing and where to send it

**Palf70Step** · 08-15-2002, 08:28 PM

Sorry I mean Josh...

I only fix computers...I still don't type worht a flip. Some one has got to quit moving my keys around. I'm going to look worse than I am.

oldburb · 08-15-2002, 08:42 PM

I dont post much but I have learned alot from reading posts. I usually spend 2 hours a night on here. I dont have much money but I will paypal some money in two weeks. Maybe we could send a little each month I know that would be easier for me.

Pumkin Truck · 08-15-2002, 09:01 PM

Count me in, post the address and I will try to get this board some money, not the richest brat in the world so don't build your hopes up.

***Liz*** · 08-15-2002, 09:44 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by 68 Suburban

Yeah you can put a price on those things, but how do you put a price on the time that Josh and the other moderators put into the board.

Well put Chris. It seems in alot of posts people are quick to critisize the board when things go wrong. Yet not as many thank Josh and the other moderators for a job well done. If we had to pay for the hours put in by them , not many of us could afford to be here. This is not meant to bash anyone, just mho.

weasel29gm · 08-15-2002, 10:04 PM

Sure Josh, I'll help with the info and fun this is it's worth a few bucks now and then. I've learned more since Feb. than I have in years plus meeting some great people. If everyone would give some pocket change that would add up. Don't mind helpin' at all

**smitty62** · 08-15-2002, 11:30 PM

OK-OK I've got my head out of my a-- now. Josh, let me know when you can receive contributions by mail--I too have strong issues with Paypal and it's no misunderstanding.

*big71* · 08-15-2002, 11:39 PM

i gave a little last time and will be glad to give again thanks josh

nroden · 08-15-2002, 11:40 PM

I will donate. Now it may only be $20 or so but its somthing to keep the board going. Knowing about GMCPaul has helped me so much on parts and this board has given me more help than any manual ever could of. Its worth it now my truck is getting painted. Also, as soon as shirts are sold I will get one.

too many · 08-15-2002, 11:54 PM

Only been using the board a few months, but sorta addicted to it! Count me in for a little when we can send MO to you!

( besides rehab aint cheap!!) KEEP UP THE GOOD WORK!!!

Slammed67 · 08-16-2002, 12:52 AM

I really don't think it's out of line to ask where the money is going. I'm curious (not in a non-trusting kind if way, just curious). I know for a fact that the domain name itself costs about $20 - $30, year since I also have one myself (and just renewed it). I pay $12.00 a year for 20MB of web space and paid a one-time setup fee of $50. I have no idea how much web space a message board takes up (or data transfer), but I'm sure it's well over 20MB. After checking out the vBulletin web site, it looks like it costs $160 (one time) for the software license, $135 for first time installation (by a professional), and it costs $135 to upgrade to newer versions of vBulletin. As for monthly web space costs, I have no idea but I'd guess around $50 a month? Just a guess. Maybe you should have like a $5 sign up fee and maybe a buck or two a year after that. If every board member paid even a dollar a year, that should be more than enough. Just my $0.02..... correct me if my figures are wrong.

Or maybe the parts vendors who advertise and sell parts on here could pay an advertising fee?

Slammed67

nroden · 08-16-2002, 01:34 AM

OK.. I dont care what josh does with the money. As long he doesn't spend it foolishly on drugs or anything and I know he isnt that kind of guy. If anything possibly when we donate he should set a time on how long this money will last him and stick to it. That way he knows how much $$$ he'll save to pay for webhosting, software, ect. and then the rest can be left for his personal use.

I think its fine for him to be able to have some for his truck and personal use since he spends so much time on here and in chat.

The way I look at it if about 150 people donated $10 or maybe $15 and the dealers payed him more and then the T-Shirt donations he should have enough to keep the site going and maybe $300-400 for his own use. I AM NOT TRYING TO SAY HOW MUCH ANYONE SHOULD DONATE. Just some very loosely calculated math.

This board has saved me a lot of money on getting stuff that would of otherwise cost me.. just for the price of shipping. Then all the help no manual can offer. All the places I have learned of to get parts such as GMCPaul and KingParts and the great people I have been introduced to.

**COBALT** · 08-16-2002, 01:37 AM

I would be glad to pay extra just to get the banners OFF!!! LOL

Money's on the way, Josh. I don't mind the "Contributor" under my name. In fact I like it. Maybe it'll light a fire under the butts under the knuckle-heads who didn't contribute last time.

Rock on.

jostrans68 · 08-16-2002, 02:25 AM

Sent mine Paypal Keep up the great work..... This by far is the best and most interactive board on the net..............
Any body wants to know where the money went doesnt have to look far just look at this awesome board ....my .02 Jack

Billy Porter · 08-16-2002, 08:45 AM

Do not have paypal, but will send money order............
No problem, the board is worth contribibuting too

**COBALT** · 08-16-2002, 12:44 PM

68 Suburban: Yeah, I agree entirely. This is the best resource on the web by far, and it's free. To keep it that way I would assume people would be happy to cough up $20 bucks or so in donations every few months.

I mean, who cares how Josh spends it? Bottom line is he does good development work on this site as far as I can tell. He's on top of bugs, and is receptive to user input, and speaking as a developer myself its work he could be doing for a whole hell of a lot of money (even in this economic climate).

Follow me for a second. As an example of what he's putting up with lets say he works for a company who has this site up as a service. They would probably would have to pay him an anual salary of $50K per year to do development work, which is modest but for an experienced developer quite low. After taxes that's over $8000 per quarter (every 3 months) or for a 40 hour work week around $17 per hour (again, after taxes - pretax it's $26 per hour). In that situation the site would NOT be free. All of us would have to pay $20 per month just to get our PM's off the site, and if we had problems we wouldn't talk to him directly. We'd call a 1-800 number. Over 1 month lets say there's only 2/3 of the membership we have now (around 3500 members). That's $70,000 per month.

Now lets say we're back with the site we have now. If 150 of us donated $10 per quarter on average that's only $1500 per quarter ($500 per month). Personal time put into this is on average, what? +20hrs a week (3hrs a day including weekends)? That's $6.25 per hour for personal time he could be spending on his truck, or earning more money some other way.

See the difference? We can all relate to wanting more time and money to do what we want to do. He's giving his time up for very little return to provide us with a resource. Doing it for free indicates personal interest beyond the call of duty. This isn't ditch digging. You can earn $8-9 per hour doing that.

Bottom line is let Josh do his business, and try to cough up as much $ as you think your time on this site is worth. As far as I'm concerned spend it ALL on your truck, Josh. Just promise me one thing. Keep the site up!

08-15-2002, 04:18 PM	#26
smitty62 Registered User Join Date: May 2002 Location: North Carolina Posts: 1,234	Hey Josh, I'll be glad to contribute, but I'll be just as up front with you---if the ads go, I'll no longer be interested. I like to chat, and I've learned a lot on here, but the parts are my main interest! I'm sure you're out of pocket on this, but perhaps if you were even more upfront with where the money is going? Or have I misunderstood something? An in-depth explanation might go a long way. __________________ Stepsides look like real trucks! Smitty

08-15-2002, 04:21 PM	#27
ThreeQuarter Senior Member Join Date: Jun 2000 Location: Texan in Iowa Posts: 2,517	Smitty I think he's referring to the advertisement banners at the top of the pages, etc. and not the classifieds. __________________ Ben '68 Chevy C10 Custom LWB 327/TH400 2nd owner '16 GMC Sierra 1500 SLE Dblcab 4wd 5.3

08-15-2002, 04:24 PM	#29
*Josh* He's got mean nasty FANGS! Join Date: Dec 1999 Location: Rockwell, NC Posts: 6,504	They are coorect, it's hte banner ads at the top of the page I am going to remove, not the parts boards, they're one of the busiest sections of the board. __________________ 2004 K2500 Burb 1999 C3500 1985 Cutlass Supreme 1969 C-10 1967 C-10 Panel josh@67-72chevytrucks.com

08-15-2002, 04:27 PM	#30
Bill72BB Thats the Hillbilly way Join Date: Jul 2001 Location: Torrance,Ca Posts: 5,980	Josh ; Donated last time will donate again , Have you thought about having somemore decals made ? I would like some White one's . Thanks Bill __________________ BILL Torrance Calif 90504 Member DUF Club Member Old Farts Club 72 3/4ton Custom Camper BB402/400 trans Dynomax Cerama-coat headers , Hei distributor ,Edelbrock 1411 air,ps,pb,leafsprings ,98 chevy 60/40 seat,S10 shoulder belts tilt,3.54 Dana 60 rear. 16" Eagle wheels with LT265/75 16 tires,Gaylord Lid,H4 headlights with 100W relay conversion. " If I knew I was going to live this long I would have taken better care of myself " Marriage changes passion...suddenly you're in bed with a relative. A GUY'S PRAYER.... Lord, I pray for a nympho with huge boobs who owns a liquor store and likes to fish and hunt and has a Harley .Amen ,

08-15-2002, 05:15 PM	#32
ThreeQuarter Senior Member Join Date: Jun 2000 Location: Texan in Iowa Posts: 2,517	All good points, 68burb. Donate however much the board is worth to you. That way everyone gets their money's worth. __________________ Ben '68 Chevy C10 Custom LWB 327/TH400 2nd owner '16 GMC Sierra 1500 SLE Dblcab 4wd 5.3

08-15-2002, 04:22 PM	#28
Shane Account Suspended Join Date: Jun 2000 Location: over yonder Posts: 14,270	Smitty...i think Josh is refering to the ads at the top of the pages (the ones that flash and what-not)....not the ads we post for selling or wanting to buy parts....or the ads for the suppliers......

08-15-2002, 04:34 PM	#31
treefrog Registered User Join Date: May 2002 Location: Knoxville, TN USA Posts: 189	Please post when you are able to accept USPS, I don't have paypal. I'm in. TF

08-15-2002, 05:31 PM	#33
dmnall Registered User Join Date: Apr 2001 Location: Goleta, CA Posts: 505	I will donate as well but I refuse to use Pay Pal (too many issues with their policies). As soon as you can take money by mail, I will definitely send some cash ! L@TeZ, Charlie __________________ 1968 C10 Truck LWB Fleetside 1968 C10 Truck SWB Stepside 1994 K2500 Ext Cab Fleetside 2008 Honda Civic Si lease

08-15-2002, 07:49 PM	#34
Chevyc10! Registered User Join Date: Dec 2000 Location: Centerville Ga. USA Posts: 804	Just tell me where to send a money order/ cashiers check etc. Only too happy to help... Jake __________________ 68 SWB The Surgeon General doesn't say anything about smoking a Ford!!! Would rather be ran over repeatedly by a Chevy than drive a Ford!!! Paralyzed from the neck up and confined to a hat! Kathleen, Georgia USA

08-15-2002, 08:25 PM	#35
Palf70Step State of Confusion! Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: Gulfport, MS USA Posts: 46,644	You can count me in too Joah. Just let me know when your set up for the mail/money order thing and where to send it __________________ Bill 1970 Chevy Custom/10 LWB Fleetside 2010 Toyota Tacoma PreRunner SR5 Double Cab - DD Member of Louisiana Classic Truck Club (LCTC) Bill's Gallery Life isn't tied with a bow, but it's still a gift. Live simply. Love generously. Care deeply. Speak kindly. Leave the rest to God!

08-15-2002, 08:28 PM	#36
Palf70Step State of Confusion! Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: Gulfport, MS USA Posts: 46,644	Sorry I mean Josh... I only fix computers...I still don't type worht a flip. Some one has got to quit moving my keys around. I'm going to look worse than I am. __________________ Bill 1970 Chevy Custom/10 LWB Fleetside 2010 Toyota Tacoma PreRunner SR5 Double Cab - DD Member of Louisiana Classic Truck Club (LCTC) Bill's Gallery Life isn't tied with a bow, but it's still a gift. Live simply. Love generously. Care deeply. Speak kindly. Leave the rest to God!

08-15-2002, 08:42 PM	#37
oldburb Registered User Join Date: May 2002 Location: knoxville tn Posts: 55	I dont post much but I have learned alot from reading posts. I usually spend 2 hours a night on here. I dont have much money but I will paypal some money in two weeks. Maybe we could send a little each month I know that would be easier for me. __________________ 72 Suburban 3/4ton 402 rustbucket 72 Suburban 3/4ton body&frame only

08-15-2002, 09:01 PM	#38
Pumkin Truck Thats just prime! Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: TEXAS Posts: 720	Count me in, post the address and I will try to get this board some money, not the richest brat in the world so don't build your hopes up. __________________ 69 GMC short bed stepside with a wimpy six that can barely pull itself. 99 Chevrolet Camaro Z-28 1 Bad 5.7ltr LS1

08-15-2002, 10:04 PM	#40
weasel29gm SLOW BUT SURE,BUT CLOSER Join Date: Feb 2002 Location: eleanor wv usa Posts: 3,091	Sure Josh, I'll help with the info and fun this is it's worth a few bucks now and then. I've learned more since Feb. than I have in years plus meeting some great people. If everyone would give some pocket change that would add up. Don't mind helpin' at all __________________ 69 C-10, OWNED 35YRS... 350 over 30, 350 Turbo, 3:73 Posi P/S, P/B Black with red and black int. ''LOVE THESE OLD ''TRUCKS.......

08-15-2002, 11:30 PM	#41
smitty62 Registered User Join Date: May 2002 Location: North Carolina Posts: 1,234	OK-OK I've got my head out of my a-- now. Josh, let me know when you can receive contributions by mail--I too have strong issues with Paypal and it's no misunderstanding. __________________ Stepsides look like real trucks! Smitty



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08-15-2002, 11:39 PM	#42
big71 Account Suspended Join Date: Nov 2001 Location: JONESVILL NC Posts: 1,303	i gave a little last time and will be glad to give again thanks josh

08-15-2002, 11:40 PM	#43
nroden Registered User Join Date: Jun 2001 Location: Springfield, MO Posts: 1,098	I will donate. Now it may only be $20 or so but its somthing to keep the board going. Knowing about GMCPaul has helped me so much on parts and this board has given me more help than any manual ever could of. Its worth it now my truck is getting painted. Also, as soon as shirts are sold I will get one. __________________ Nick Rodenberg 72 Cheyenne 10 V8 350/TH350 white/ochre/white/ochre, ochre/saddle interior Retired and in the dry... still runs. I now drive Red '01 Ford Focus... better MPG!!!

08-15-2002, 11:54 PM	#44
too many Registered User Join Date: Jul 2001 Location: nw IL Posts: 211	NOOOOooooooo.......!!! Only been using the board a few months, but sorta addicted to it! Count me in for a little when we can send MO to you! ( besides rehab aint cheap!!) KEEP UP THE GOOD WORK!!!

08-16-2002, 12:52 AM	#45
Slammed67 Progress = 0% Join Date: Nov 2001 Location: Kansas City, MO Posts: 2,108	I really don't think it's out of line to ask where the money is going. I'm curious (not in a non-trusting kind if way, just curious). I know for a fact that the domain name itself costs about $20 - $30, year since I also have one myself (and just renewed it). I pay $12.00 a year for 20MB of web space and paid a one-time setup fee of $50. I have no idea how much web space a message board takes up (or data transfer), but I'm sure it's well over 20MB. After checking out the vBulletin web site, it looks like it costs $160 (one time) for the software license, $135 for first time installation (by a professional), and it costs $135 to upgrade to newer versions of vBulletin. As for monthly web space costs, I have no idea but I'd guess around $50 a month? Just a guess. Maybe you should have like a $5 sign up fee and maybe a buck or two a year after that. If every board member paid even a dollar a year, that should be more than enough. Just my $0.02..... correct me if my figures are wrong. Or maybe the parts vendors who advertise and sell parts on here could pay an advertising fee? Slammed67 __________________ Jason - '67 GMC swb \| '57 Bel-Air 4dr hardtop \| '56 210 4dr Wagon \| 2000 GMC Sierra Last edited by Slammed67; 08-16-2002 at 12:57 AM.

08-16-2002, 01:34 AM	#46
nroden Registered User Join Date: Jun 2001 Location: Springfield, MO Posts: 1,098	OK.. I dont care what josh does with the money. As long he doesn't spend it foolishly on drugs or anything and I know he isnt that kind of guy. If anything possibly when we donate he should set a time on how long this money will last him and stick to it. That way he knows how much $$$ he'll save to pay for webhosting, software, ect. and then the rest can be left for his personal use. I think its fine for him to be able to have some for his truck and personal use since he spends so much time on here and in chat. The way I look at it if about 150 people donated $10 or maybe $15 and the dealers payed him more and then the T-Shirt donations he should have enough to keep the site going and maybe $300-400 for his own use. I AM NOT TRYING TO SAY HOW MUCH ANYONE SHOULD DONATE. Just some very loosely calculated math. This board has saved me a lot of money on getting stuff that would of otherwise cost me.. just for the price of shipping. Then all the help no manual can offer. All the places I have learned of to get parts such as GMCPaul and KingParts and the great people I have been introduced to. __________________ Nick Rodenberg 72 Cheyenne 10 V8 350/TH350 white/ochre/white/ochre, ochre/saddle interior Retired and in the dry... still runs. I now drive Red '01 Ford Focus... better MPG!!!

08-16-2002, 01:37 AM	#47
COBALT Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2001 Location: Seattle, WA, USA Posts: 5,817	I would be glad to pay extra just to get the banners OFF!!! LOL Money's on the way, Josh. I don't mind the "Contributor" under my name. In fact I like it. Maybe it'll light a fire under the butts under the knuckle-heads who didn't contribute last time. Rock on. __________________ '69 3/4 ton C20 2wd-350ci/TH400 '69 3/4 ton Custom 20 2wd-350ci/4sp Manual '99 2wd 5.7 Chevy Tahoe Seattle, WA.

08-16-2002, 02:25 AM	#48
jostrans68 Jostrans68 Join Date: Mar 2001 Location: Bloomington indiana Posts: 1,182	Sent mine Paypal Keep up the great work..... This by far is the best and most interactive board on the net.............. Any body wants to know where the money went doesnt have to look far just look at this awesome board ....my .02 Jack __________________ [CGTW Member former 67-72 now with a 96 silverado Last edited by jostrans68; 08-16-2002 at 02:27 AM.

08-16-2002, 08:45 AM	#49
Billy Porter Registered User Join Date: Jan 2000 Location: Petersburg, Virginia Posts: 178	Do not have paypal, but will send money order............ No problem, the board is worth contribibuting too __________________ 71 GMC Stepside 250/350 Turbo better known as "Fred Sanford 77 240 Mercedes Benz 92 300E Mercedes Benz 70 Firebird 400 85 600 Ninja

08-16-2002, 12:44 PM	#50
COBALT Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2001 Location: Seattle, WA, USA Posts: 5,817	68 Suburban: Yeah, I agree entirely. This is the best resource on the web by far, and it's free. To keep it that way I would assume people would be happy to cough up $20 bucks or so in donations every few months. I mean, who cares how Josh spends it? Bottom line is he does good development work on this site as far as I can tell. He's on top of bugs, and is receptive to user input, and speaking as a developer myself its work he could be doing for a whole hell of a lot of money (even in this economic climate). Follow me for a second. As an example of what he's putting up with lets say he works for a company who has this site up as a service. They would probably would have to pay him an anual salary of $50K per year to do development work, which is modest but for an experienced developer quite low. After taxes that's over $8000 per quarter (every 3 months) or for a 40 hour work week around $17 per hour (again, after taxes - pretax it's $26 per hour). In that situation the site would NOT be free. All of us would have to pay $20 per month just to get our PM's off the site, and if we had problems we wouldn't talk to him directly. We'd call a 1-800 number. Over 1 month lets say there's only 2/3 of the membership we have now (around 3500 members). That's $70,000 per month. Now lets say we're back with the site we have now. If 150 of us donated $10 per quarter on average that's only $1500 per quarter ($500 per month). Personal time put into this is on average, what? +20hrs a week (3hrs a day including weekends)? That's $6.25 per hour for personal time he could be spending on his truck, or earning more money some other way. See the difference? We can all relate to wanting more time and money to do what we want to do. He's giving his time up for very little return to provide us with a resource. Doing it for free indicates personal interest beyond the call of duty. This isn't ditch digging. You can earn $8-9 per hour doing that. Bottom line is let Josh do his business, and try to cough up as much $ as you think your time on this site is worth. As far as I'm concerned spend it ALL on your truck, Josh. Just promise me one thing. Keep the site up! __________________ '69 3/4 ton C20 2wd-350ci/TH400 '69 3/4 ton Custom 20 2wd-350ci/4sp Manual '99 2wd 5.7 Chevy Tahoe Seattle, WA.

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