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Old 03-09-2014, 05:23 PM   #1
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Re: 86 chevy crew cab 12 valve swap

I havent done that yet, still trying to decide if its worth messing with since I have a 1 ton frame.
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Old 03-10-2014, 03:10 PM   #2
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Re: 86 chevy crew cab 12 valve swap

Sweet Vette. Quit being a poser, let's see under the hood.

I'd do the steering box brace as it is way easier to do it now than when you find the frame cracked. I put one on that yellow burb, and on my Longhorn. This next Longhorn I'm building is getting one too. Cheap insurance IMO.
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Old 03-10-2014, 05:38 PM   #3
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Re: 86 chevy crew cab 12 valve swap

I have a one ton crew cab and I had to put the frame brace kit and the weld on kit on it. Steering was loose before because the frame holes were elongated. I would put one or both kits on now if I were you. It seems like it would be much easier now than when the cab is on. Thanks for the project updates!
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Old 03-12-2014, 12:13 AM   #4
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Re: 86 chevy crew cab 12 valve swap

Started messing with a TPS for the allison. Decided I wanted to mount it inside on the bracket for the accelerator pedal. Played around with some cardboard pieces last night and figured out how to make it work and spent tonight putting it together. I like playing with "Paint" and drew a pic of how it would be assembled. Looks like it should work pretty good.
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Old 03-12-2014, 12:24 AM   #5
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Re: 86 chevy crew cab 12 valve swap

Spent several hours fri night drawing a wiring diagram of the allison trans. Its crude but I think it will help me understand how it all fits together. I got the 06 chevy shifter today, has the tap shift and tow/haul buttons, gotta figure out how it wires in and add a few more wires to my spaghetti mess.
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Old 03-12-2014, 12:55 AM   #6
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Re: 86 chevy crew cab 12 valve swap

The stingray shouldnt be too lonely, its buddies are parked across the driveway from it. At least they got driven last summer. I found a pic of the rats nest thats under the hood of the vette. The specs on it are 468 big block with twin turbos, 4l80e trans, 3.08 gears. If this works, here is a video of it.
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Old 03-12-2014, 11:54 AM   #7
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Re: 86 chevy crew cab 12 valve swap

Very nice! Looks like you have built a great collection for your self!
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Old 03-12-2014, 12:27 PM   #8
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Re: 86 chevy crew cab 12 valve swap

This guy has a mean turbo'd vette, seems like its 500 and something cubes. love the last part where the car is following behind him and he starts laying miles of rubber behind him. Thats a s##t load of torque right there!

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Old 03-15-2014, 04:34 AM   #9
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Re: 86 chevy crew cab 12 valve swap

As I was tearing the wiring out of and off of the firewall the other day, in preparation of painting/undercoating the firewall and underneath of the cab, been thinking back of problems I have had with old wiring/fuse blocks in my other vehicles. Looking at getting a painless wiring harness and starting from scratch on all the wiring. I want to do new harnesses for the doors and the headlight circuits with relays so they will work better and also thinking of using a vintage air system over the stocker so I have more room in the engine compartment, and that would have its own harness too. Plus I dont need some the wiring under the hood with the cummins swap. An easy way to spend another 2 grand, but worth it? If I keep the stock harness I would be trimming wires here and there and probably be fighting 28 year old bad connections. I can get a painless wiring harness that fits in the stock fuse block hole, which is nice, so I wouldn't have to patch the hole, and end up with everything new/reliable. Thoughts??
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Old 03-15-2014, 10:27 AM   #10
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Re: 86 chevy crew cab 12 valve swap

new wiring is never a bad idea. you can clean it up and make it fit your needs as you go. and you dont have old brittle copper to contend with. id go with the new. as for vintage air, it depends. if you have much humididty or deal with much snow, i would think about keeping the stock stuff. VA draws its air from the cabin. so, moisture in the cabin air is getting circulated over and over. the OEM stuff pull outside air. that helps deal with moisture in the air not being deposited on the inside of the windshield. a lot of people have it and like it though.
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Old 03-16-2014, 12:15 PM   #11
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Re: 86 chevy crew cab 12 valve swap

After my original wiring harness in my longhorn had some wires melting, I decided to unhook it and I will be buying a new complete harness for it. It's better than waiting for it to burnnup due to an old wire breaking down and shorting out.
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Old 03-23-2014, 06:20 PM   #12
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Re: 86 chevy crew cab 12 valve swap

Got the throttle pedal wiring done. Got the tcm and bcm fri and made a trip to the dealer for connectors for the bcm. Still waiting on tcm terminals and ordered some bcm terminals from the dealer that will be here tues. If the dang tcm terminals would get here I would be ready to start building the trans harness. I loaded the cab up and hauled it over the the sandblaster guy. Hopefully he will get it done this week then I can paint it sat. Then the cab is ready to go on the frame for the last time!That will be good to see!
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Old 03-23-2014, 11:11 PM   #13
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Re: 86 chevy crew cab 12 valve swap

Very nice! One of these days when we get an average I'm going to get a 4850 with a snow blower just because I love 4850s!
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Old 03-24-2014, 12:25 AM   #14
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Re: 86 chevy crew cab 12 valve swap

4960!

my favorite tractor of that vintage. i dont know how many hours of my life i spent sitting in one of those!
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Old 03-24-2014, 02:25 AM   #15
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Any newer than a 4850 then you have to deal with more electronics. Its a good old tractor. I farm with vintage stuff, here is our tractor lineup, 1020 diesel, 2020 diesel, 2 4020's diesel and the 4850. Its kinda funny, people are restoring the tractors that we use. lol
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Any newer than a 4850 then you have to deal with more electronics. Its a good old tractor. I farm with vintage stuff, here is our tractor lineup, 1020 diesel, 2020 diesel, 2 4020's diesel and the 4850. Its kinda funny, people are restoring the tractors that we use. lol
You have a lot in common with my uncle, He farmed from 1974 to 1999 or so with a 4020 and 3020 diesels. THen he got a 4055 and still mostly used the older ones!

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I'm still amazed at how well these tractors hold their value. My neighbor was just shopping for a 4020 diesel and was able to buy a 4440 that was nicer with less hours for less money than any 4020 diesel around here. Pretty crazy.
My engine hoist/truck puller is a 2020 gas. My uncle said for awhile, JD was selling the 4020's and others in that series for $1/lb new! I want his 4020 but he said 2 guys are also in line... You'd think a nephew would get first right of refusal but they asked first! Oh well he'll probably never sell it, he in his late 70's and keeps talking about buying a 3020 gas for winter use even though hes got 10 tractors including a 6400 MFWD with a cab.
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I'm still amazed at how well these tractors hold their value. My neighbor was just shopping for a 4020 diesel and was able to buy a 4440 that was nicer with less hours for less money than any 4020 diesel around here. Pretty crazy.
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when it comes to tractors, i want the new stuff. shortly before i escaped farm country, we had an 8520. it was by far the nicest tractor i had ever done work in. made a long night with a five gang v ripper much less fatiguing. and talk about a combine chaser. you could haul a 1000bu cart with that thing and not even know it was there. i really like the 4960s we had(i'd be scared to think of the number of hours i slept behind the wheel of one of those!), and the 4440 that was repowered with a 7220 oil burner was a riot to drive, but id still get in the new one any day over any of the others. to damn many days on a harrow or rake in the 4020 or 4440. but, i cut my teeth on red(and white) tractors, so if i really want to talk about nice implements...
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when it comes to tractors, i want the new stuff. shortly before i escaped farm country, we had an 8520. it was by far the nicest tractor i had ever done work in. made a long night with a five gang v ripper much less fatiguing. and talk about a combine chaser. you could haul a 1000bu cart with that thing and not even know it was there. i really like the 4960s we had(i'd be scared to think of the number of hours i slept behind the wheel of one of those!), and the 4440 that was repowered with a 7220 oil burner was a riot to drive, but id still get in the new one any day over any of the others. to damn many days on a harrow or rake in the 4020 or 4440. but, i cut my teeth on red(and white) tractors, so if i really want to talk about nice implements...
Sorry, but when the Ryans discuss tractors, all I can picture is this:
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The only problem with the 4850 is the stupid leaking ZF front axle! 4960 or 8400 all the way!
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That looks like so much fun. I was laughing my *** off through the whole video. I would need a roll cage and I would have had it on it's side or top within the first minute. As for the Ryan's, well it is orange.
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That looks like so much fun. I was laughing my *** off through the whole video. I would need a roll cage and I would have had it on it's side or top within the first minute. As for the Ryan's, well it is orange.

When I first watched that video I was for sure he was going to roll that unit or at least break an axle. I can't have tractor thoughts in my head without a divorce.
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Sorry, but when the Ryans discuss tractors, all I can picture is this:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IZZpAO0jP7E&feature=plcp&noredirect=1
the pop phrase "lol" rarely applies when i read the interwebz. as soon as i saw the link to that video though, i did literally laugh.

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When I first watched that video I was for sure he was going to roll that unit or at least break an axle. I can't have tractor thoughts in my head without a divorce.
i was waiting for the main drive to **** the bed when i saw that video a while back. as for the tractor thoughts.... win win?
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Just saw the video that is freeking cool! Gives guy's bad ideas!
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Just saw the video that is freeking cool! Gives guy's bad ideas!
Yes it does! So what company makes slicks in a 30.5?
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