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Old 11-22-2017, 06:38 AM   #26
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Re: Scars are in?

I didn't know it was cool either, I have just been too lazy to finish welding the inside bed panels and put the bed wood in. Now that I have found out that it is the "in" thing, finishing up and making it look factory, may devalue my devalued truck even more. Take that you dead horse!
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Old 11-22-2017, 08:47 AM   #27
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I'll stick with knowing with what "I" like and not being concerned with what people who need trends to follow do.
This! times one million.

Especially when Freiberger is involved.

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About the long bed guys who come out of the woodwork to announce that a sheet of plywood doesn't fit a short bed with tailgate up, I don't think there is anyone here that hasn't figured that out. I've had guys saying that type of comment all my life when I bring up one of my short beds. "Those things can't haul squat", etc. That's when I tell them, "That's why I have always owned at least one 8-lugger. You see, I'm such a truck kinda guy that a short bed is my car. A car that can haul almost as much as my long bed". Another good one is "Makes you wonder why GM has been building them since day 1"
We are on the same wavelength today.

We've had a short box around since 1969. Light hauling, light trailering and driving back and forth to work. My 2500 HD that I got a year ago is my first departure into a "big" truck (but it's a short box, too).

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Old 11-22-2017, 09:56 AM   #30
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If you stretch a short bed the welds won't be scars. They'll be stretch marks......
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Old 11-22-2017, 10:02 AM   #31
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As ybnormal pointed out, threads like this really highlight the discrepancy and reason why there really are two segregated groups of GM truck enthusiasts. I'm the type that loves all trucks and appreciate the time and effort that the owners put into building the trucks the way they want, which is why I love this forum and Instagram for keeping up with other truck enthusiasts.

That being said, now onto the topic of this thread. Yes, it has become fairly common for the patina'd truck guys to leave their bed scars, especially on the slammed/big wheel trucks. To me, it is an anomaly of the strict adherence to the mentality of leaving the outside finish completely untouched while hot rodding everything under the sheetmetal. Personally, I don't like the scars but I do love the patina. If it were me, I'd at least paint the scars to match the patina, but they aren't my trucks! Here's a few examples.









In fact, even the Delmo built cover truck for the current Builder's Guide is sporting bed scars.



Here's an example of my personal favorite approach. This is atponder's shortened truck with the scars painted to match the original patina.

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Old 11-22-2017, 12:10 PM   #33
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I didn't think it was a long bed cut to short debate, I thought it was about a trend to do a Chitty job then pawn it off as cool. That's why I say, crap is crap.
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Old 11-22-2017, 12:15 PM   #34
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Threads like this are the reason why so many guys have taken their build threads to places like Instagram.

So what if it’s become stylish to prove that you’ve done amazing work building the trucks of your dreams?

Some of the comments here are fine. But what I can’t stand is the ones where people to justify their crap by belittling the choices of others. There are literally hundreds of thousands of these trucks out there. Despite what some of us think, these trucks will never be 69’ Z28 rare.

Build what you want. Don’t like what others build? ignore their style and build your own. The scene would be pretty damn boring if every single truck looked the same.
I have to agree with you on this! So here is also what i believe is the main reason the scars are in..... Most people dont have the skills to cut down the bed and weld it back together in a way that is clean enough to display! They cobbel it together and then slop bondo over it to cover their mistakes. In the true custom world you see not only scars but also full, chopped, channeled ,modded etc....sometimes in full bare metal....that proves whoever put it together is bad a$$ and proud to show their work to others! Now with that being said...my truck is a real short bed and i made the choice to go custom paint....yea as some say it displays well and looks presentable but.......I sometimes regret that choice. The reason being i feel like I cant go drive it like i want to. I might chip it, or someone might touch it etc....I can respect the guys that have crazy awesome rides and go drive the you know what out of them! If it breaks fix it and hammer down some more! I also agree these trucks will never be as rare as a 69z28 lol. And yea bed sides are expensive but I doubt that is the reason people cut down long beds...even at a grand each that is pocket change to the other mods you see on most trucks wearing scars....Its more about the satisfaction of the build and also using the original iron/patina. At least the american iron should please some of the naysayers here��. But probably not ....I'll be thrown under the bus after all I am driving a heavily modified C10 shorty that has been cut on by my wretched hands!��
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Old 11-22-2017, 12:17 PM   #35
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I fully intend to finish mine off. I don't get going through the time and effort of correctly shortening a bed, only to leave the welds exposed to rust. I plan on painting and sealing mine front and back.

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Now that is my kind of humor. laughing, Bruce

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Old 11-22-2017, 12:48 PM   #37
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the one's that are really amusing are those that share their opinion on why you are wrong for not thinking the same as them.

those guys are easy to spot: they're the ones that know the most and are constantly reminding everyone around them how much they know.
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Old 11-22-2017, 12:53 PM   #38
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Putting bed scars on your truck because some writer says it is cool is exactly the same as your middle school daughter dying her hair green because her friends say it is cool. The only difference is that she is young and will grow up one day, whereas you are just a 50-something dip****.
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Well....mine is a long bed and I've always liked the sleek, long look.
That said, I've really come to appreciate the short beds too....particularly the stepside trucks.
As for shortening them....well its rampant and it apparently seems pretty easy to do, so many guys are now doing it....seemingly on ever other truck, lol.
All the more power to them....

For every long bed that is shortened and lowered (..and there are now thousands of them)......the value drops on the next short bed.
Not being negative here....but when something is no longer a rare commodity....the pricing goes down.
Short/fleets used to be appear to be kind of rare.....now they seem to be 50% of the classic trucks out there.....and climbing.

Plus, as more guys solve out how to do it and it becomes increasingly 'text book' (if it isn't already) and something that youtube presents as a weekend yard project, then the short/fleets won't be subject to (previous) 'short/fleet bed pricing'...they'll just look for a long bed and do it themselves in a weekend with a little elbow grease.

The guys (sellers) with the original short/fleets are already qualifying and distancing themselves from the 'cut down' trucks in their ads, etc. in terms of establishing higher values for the original ones....which makes reasonable sense.

Regardless.....I don't sweat someones choice in trucks....I even give the thumbs up to the old fords I see on the road these days......all 'brothers in arms'.

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Guess my humor is different from others. Some take things a little too literal that even the laffy face smilie I always use doesn't work anymore.

I dig all trucks... short beds, long beds, fleet sides, step sides, lifted, lowered and all in between.

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Since I have one of each...........C10 short beds are the rock stars of the hot rod world right now, why, because they are different, kinda like ur ugly cuzin with big boobs, just sayin
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I didn't think it was a long bed cut to short debate, I thought it was about a trend to do a Chitty job then pawn it off as cool. That's why I say, crap is crap.
The trucks being referred to aren’t “Chitty” as you say jobs, these are panels that have been cut down and welded back together with no warping and barely a dimes width of disturbed paint. If you think that is a “chitty” job? I’d really like to see what you think is a good job.
Personally I like to see the scars disappear and be blended in, especially if it was my truck, but I also love looking at the work.
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Its pretty clear....we need to start a new trend....wherein we change the lengths of all the trucks, long and short.... to exactly the 1/2 point between a stock long bed and the short bed....let's say the new best length....is 122".
who's in?.....best to lead a trend, than follow one, lol.

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Next thing you know everybody will be wearing their hat sideways with baggy pants with their boxers hanging out sitting on the side of the road with blown out air bags !
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Operantly this forum is no place for a sense of humor.
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I definitely get that their are builders that do it to show their metal work skills. But, I really think the finished patina like hewittca posted looks more under the radar and blends in.

I definitely didn't start this thread to divide sides. I'll be the first to say I like different. Not just a little but full wtf is that? AKA my vette. Haha
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As ybnormal pointed out, threads like this really highlight the discrepancy and reason why there really are two segregated groups of GM truck enthusiasts. I'm the type that loves all trucks and appreciate the time and effort that the owners put into building the trucks the way they want, which is why I love this forum and Instagram for keeping up with other truck enthusiasts.

That being said, now onto the topic of this thread. Yes, it has become fairly common for the patina'd truck guys to leave their bed scars, especially on the slammed/big wheel trucks. To me, it is an anomaly of the strict adherence to the mentality of leaving the outside finish completely untouched while hot rodding everything under the sheetmetal. Personally, I don't like the scars but I do love the patina. If it were me, I'd at least paint the scars to match the patina, but they aren't my trucks! Here's a few examples.









In fact, even the Delmo built cover truck for the current Builder's Guide is sporting bed scars.



Here's an example of my personal favorite approach. This is atponder's shortened truck with the scars painted to match the original patina.


I personally wouldn’t own any of those trucks
But
With the pics shown and the explanation
I now understand it more now
And can appreciate it

It definitely feels like this site leans more to the stock crowd
Myself included

I think it’s all in fun
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The trucks being referred to aren’t “Chitty” as you say jobs, these are panels that have been cut down and welded back together with no warping and barely a dimes width of disturbed paint. If you think that is a “chitty” job? I’d really like to see what you think is a good job.
Personally I like to see the scars disappear and be blended in, especially if it was my truck, but I also love looking at the work.

I will have to concede the fact, thought I'm usually up for some good arguments, that I have not actually seen the trucks he's referring too. I would have to give them a look over to not generalize the body work as crap. But if it's good body work then the resale might be there. But hey, getting people talking about your stuff/build is a good way to get exposure. I will give them that anyway.

Sooooo.... good body work or not: I will change my position that the general idea of these builds, in my eyes now, is for click bait. Looks like crap, but is really nice. How about that.
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