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1968 C-10Cowboy · 07-06-2002, 11:59 AM

I bought a 1968 swb from a guy. Im not sure the engine specs..but it's definately not stock! quite a lope when idleing. He said it was a 350/.30 over /eldebrock intake with holly double pumper . He said it pushed a 400 turbo tranny w/ratchet shifter...it shifts hard and at 2500rpm. It does have a 12 bolt 5 lug axle..he said it was 4.11 gears..?? I do know its geared high because im pretty much at an idle at 70mph.
I paid $1000 bucks for the truck. Cancer has tacken out the rocker panels but thats it. other than no grille or bumpers, I dont think its too bad! Anyone have any sugestions, or comments?

SCOTI · 07-06-2002, 12:10 PM

Welcome from Dallas. What's the estimated rpm's @ 70? If it has 4.11's it should be screaming. My beater w/3.73's turns 3000rpm @ 60-65 w/28" tall tires out back. I'm not sure, but if I read the post correctly your rpm's were "at an idle @ 70mph", which would point more to 3.08's. Since the state is so damn big, where are you in Texas?

1968 C-10Cowboy · 07-06-2002, 12:22 PM

I live in midland..Now Im not sure what my rpms are at at 70 since i just fixed my spedometer! My wife said I was doing 75 cause she was behind me and my tac showed a little over 3000. Are the 12 bolt rearends posi?

Denny · 07-06-2002, 12:44 PM

Welcome from Cedarhill, Mo. Sounds like you got a good buy on your truck for a $1000. These are great trucks and there are alot of parts available for them.

SCOTI · 07-06-2002, 01:10 PM

They came with open rears standard & you could get posi's optional.

1968 C-10Cowboy · 07-06-2002, 01:24 PM

The tag in the glove box said it came with posi/and 400 small block...but.....the glove vin doesnt match the cab vin..so im kinda confused. Anyway..its the fastest vehicle ive ever owned!

SWINGSAX68 · 07-06-2002, 02:00 PM

welcome, from San Antonio,
WOW, my first welcome ever!!!!
Hey I have a few 68 parts, including a sharp 68 grill, and a repairable painted front bumper.
I've got other stuff look here:
photos.yahoo.com/sonnymoonfortwo

Super Chevy · 07-06-2002, 02:26 PM

welcome from ohio,

Looks like you have a big block 396 truck,good find for 1k

big.l.a · 07-06-2002, 02:32 PM

Just Punch It !If It leaves two Black marks then Its a posi

*Fast68Chevy* · 07-06-2002, 02:56 PM

4.11 was not available with the 400 engine(396 or 402)

no small block 400 til 70-80 and none in trucks til 75-80

being that its listed as a 400 on the SPID, it sounds like the glovebox door or cab is later year than the truck, should be listed as 396 in 68, 68 was the first year a BB could be ordered in trucks.
make sure that the VIN code on the SPID label matches the VIN on the door jamb VIN plate, (not the model code which wil be CE10704 if its a factory 68 swb step, if was a fleet bed then is a CE10734 truck)

if it really is a BB truck then it iwll be a 3.07 rear which explains the idle at 70

and posi G80 was not available with 3.07 ratio yet til 70 or 71
4.11 is super rare to find example of in 67-72 trucks, came with M10 O/D tranny option and not available with the 396

sounds like your truck's entire drivetrain has been cusotm built by someone with extra $$$ and time

welcome to the forum

1968 C-10Cowboy · 07-06-2002, 03:55 PM

The guy I bought it from said he had the rear end rebuilt back in may 2002. He said they put 4.11 gears in it and the total cost w/ labor was $480.00. From the looks of the pumpkin plate..it has been removed...I do need to re-test it though. I cant take off peeling rubber due to the stahl converter...or just typical holly adjustments! lol .I wish i knew the actual specs on this monster machine. =P
The actual vin on the door and title is CE148S

chevyman 68 C/10 · 07-06-2002, 04:01 PM

Welcome the more Texans the better!!!!!!

SWINGSAX68 if cowboy is not interested in the grill I just might be

**68 Stepside** · 07-06-2002, 04:05 PM

Welcome from Central IL, sounds like you've got a neat truck!

TJ

1968 C-10Cowboy · 07-06-2002, 04:10 PM

I found a 68 grille from bbs1965 for 30. He lives in arlington. Not sure if he still has it or not. How much for your grille SWINGSax68?
Im also having front end problems. Every once in a while when i back up and turn, one wheel turns and the other stays!! then i have to kick my tie rods to get my wheels to cooperate with eachother. The only loose part i see is the isler arm..just very little movement like the bolts are loose that hols it to the frame.

Alexis · 07-06-2002, 04:10 PM

Welcome from California

Longhorn Man · 07-06-2002, 06:12 PM

WOAH!!! Front tires pointing in oposite directions is not a good thing...at any speed.
3000 RPM's at 70-ish sounds an awfull lot like 3.07's to me. That would also explain why you cant spin them out of the hole...the confusing part is though, a high stall converter would induce tire spin, not hamper it.
Lookin forward to some pics of your rig.
Here is why I say 3.07's, this is my 350 powered 69 GMC...TH350 tranny, 28-ish inch tall tires, and a 3.07 nasty-@ss freeway gear.

Rod · 07-06-2002, 07:11 PM

Welcome to the 67-72 Chevytruck message boards.

blue_69 · 07-06-2002, 08:24 PM

welcome it sounds like you got a pretty good deal my truck wont spin much of the line either it has a big block 366 tall deck performer intake and pretty good size cam headers and 3 inch flows 2000 stahl the rear is out of a 82 short w/6 banger probly real high gear but it squirles sideways when it hits second gear at about 3800 so its all good to me

SWINGSAX68 · 07-07-2002, 12:19 PM

well,
Chevyman, Cowboy,
I emailed Cowboy on the grille and other things, I hadn't seen the posts yet, and I have the price upped to $50, But like I emailed to cowboy, we can talk about prices, so $30 sounds fair.....You all just need to catch me when I am in San Antonio, weekends are best.

I got other stuff just check the link below, I also have a few things I don't have pics of.....just minor things., one good door panel, fuse box, some wire harnesses, engine mounts, front brake lines, fuel lines, a crappy radio in the dash, Door glass...etc., Back-up lamp brackets, 2 3-speed columns. It's like a partial whole truck, man!!!!!! I would like to keep the wheels so when I get fed up with it I can send it away. But let me know guys!!!!!!

What I'm looking for are the shift indicators for an auto steering column, the pointer and Indicator.
thanks
-Roger

SWINGSAX68 · 07-07-2002, 05:28 PM

Lets seal the deal!!!!!!!!!!! You have mail!!!!!

**BIG ORANGE** · 07-07-2002, 05:44 PM

Welcome from S.C.

07-06-2002, 11:59 AM	#1
1968 C-10Cowboy Registered User Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: Midland,Texas Posts: 46	New Member and New 68 Project I bought a 1968 swb from a guy. Im not sure the engine specs..but it's definately not stock! quite a lope when idleing. He said it was a 350/.30 over /eldebrock intake with holly double pumper . He said it pushed a 400 turbo tranny w/ratchet shifter...it shifts hard and at 2500rpm. It does have a 12 bolt 5 lug axle..he said it was 4.11 gears..?? I do know its geared high because im pretty much at an idle at 70mph. I paid $1000 bucks for the truck. Cancer has tacken out the rocker panels but thats it. other than no grille or bumpers, I dont think its too bad! Anyone have any sugestions, or comments? __________________ 350/.30 400 Turbo Trans 3.73 Rear end

07-06-2002, 12:10 PM	#2
SCOTI Registered User Join Date: Apr 2001 Location: DALLAS,TX Posts: 21,915	Welcome from Dallas. What's the estimated rpm's @ 70? If it has 4.11's it should be screaming. My beater w/3.73's turns 3000rpm @ 60-65 w/28" tall tires out back. I'm not sure, but if I read the post correctly your rpm's were "at an idle @ 70mph", which would point more to 3.08's. Since the state is so damn big, where are you in Texas? __________________ 67SWB-B.B.RetroRod 64SWB-Recycle 89CCDually-Driver/Tow Truck 99CCSWB Driver All Fleetsides @rattlecankustoms in IG Building a small, high rpm engine with the perfect bore, stroke and rod ratio is very impressive. It's like a highly skilled Morrocan sword fighter with a Damascus Steel Scimitar..... *Cubic inches is like Indiana Jones with a cheap pistol.*

07-06-2002, 12:22 PM	#3
1968 C-10Cowboy Registered User Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: Midland,Texas Posts: 46	I live in midland..Now Im not sure what my rpms are at at 70 since i just fixed my spedometer! My wife said I was doing 75 cause she was behind me and my tac showed a little over 3000. Are the 12 bolt rearends posi? __________________ 350/.30 400 Turbo Trans 3.73 Rear end

07-06-2002, 12:44 PM	#4
Denny Registered User Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: Cedar Hill, MO Posts: 426	Welcome from Cedarhill, Mo. Sounds like you got a good buy on your truck for a $1000. These are great trucks and there are alot of parts available for them. __________________ 1969 Chevy C10. Dakota Digital Gauges, 383 Votex Engine, MSD 8361 Distributor, MSD 6A Unit, Demon Carb, Phoenix Transmission 4L80E trans, 3:73 Posi Rear End Early Classics 6 Lug Disc Brakes and Spindles All Stainless Lines

07-06-2002, 01:10 PM	#5
SCOTI Registered User Join Date: Apr 2001 Location: DALLAS,TX Posts: 21,915	They came with open rears standard & you could get posi's optional. __________________ 67SWB-B.B.RetroRod 64SWB-Recycle 89CCDually-Driver/Tow Truck 99CCSWB Driver All Fleetsides @rattlecankustoms in IG Building a small, high rpm engine with the perfect bore, stroke and rod ratio is very impressive. It's like a highly skilled Morrocan sword fighter with a Damascus Steel Scimitar..... *Cubic inches is like Indiana Jones with a cheap pistol.*

07-06-2002, 01:24 PM	#6
1968 C-10Cowboy Registered User Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: Midland,Texas Posts: 46	The tag in the glove box said it came with posi/and 400 small block...but.....the glove vin doesnt match the cab vin..so im kinda confused. Anyway..its the fastest vehicle ive ever owned! __________________ 350/.30 400 Turbo Trans 3.73 Rear end

07-06-2002, 02:00 PM	#7
SWINGSAX68 Now the others dig........ Join Date: May 2002 Location: San Antonio, TX Posts: 1,520	Howdy cowboy welcome, from San Antonio, WOW, my first welcome ever!!!! Hey I have a few 68 parts, including a sharp 68 grill, and a repairable painted front bumper. I've got other stuff look here: photos.yahoo.com/sonnymoonfortwo __________________ 68 Chevy C10 Stepside Black Primer 78 GMC Longbed White 09 Chevy Silverado Shortbed Granite Blue *LOOKING FOR A 67 4 DOOR IMPALA!!!Just like Sam and Dean Winchester!! 'Cause Mustangs are for p^#$ and you can fit a body in the trunk of a 67 Impala* MEMBER OF THE DRUM BRAKE CLUB Bachelor of Music in Jazz Studies Texas State University-San Marcos, TX Certified Music Educator I hope Mom is up there watching and being my Guardian Angel "I've got a fever.....and the only prescription.....IS MORE COW BELL" -The Legendary: Bruce Dickenson "F#$@ 'em up!!!!!!" -The Legendary: Rogelio Escobar TRUCKY LINKS** http://67-72chevytrucks.com/vboard/s...d.php?t=457750 http://67-72chevytrucks.com/vboard/s...d.php?t=461184 http://67-72chevytrucks.com/vboard/s...d.php?t=472848 http://67-72chevytrucks.com/vboard/s...d.php?t=417541 http://67-72chevytrucks.com/vboard/s...d.php?t=477788

07-06-2002, 02:26 PM	#8
Super Chevy Registered User Join Date: Feb 2001 Location: Ohio Posts: 1,025	welcome from ohio, Looks like you have a big block 396 truck,good find for 1k

07-06-2002, 02:32 PM	#9
big.l.a Registered User Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: Allen, TX. USA Posts: 210	Posi Just Punch It !If It leaves two Black marks then Its a posi __________________ 71 C10 LWB With Edelbrock 7101& 1406 Carb Accel HEI Blue Print Accel 8.8 Wires Soon to have possi & 186 Camel hump heads Dropped 2-1/2F&4R Dynomax Headers Duals Flowtech Aftburners Tonneau Cover Frm 89 F150 79 Monte C

07-06-2002, 02:56 PM	#10
Fast68Chevy Account Suspended Join Date: May 2000 Location: IL Posts: 0	4.11 was not available with the 400 engine(396 or 402) no small block 400 til 70-80 and none in trucks til 75-80 being that its listed as a 400 on the SPID, it sounds like the glovebox door or cab is later year than the truck, should be listed as 396 in 68, 68 was the first year a BB could be ordered in trucks. make sure that the VIN code on the SPID label matches the VIN on the door jamb VIN plate, (not the model code which wil be CE10704 if its a factory 68 swb step, if was a fleet bed then is a CE10734 truck) if it really is a BB truck then it iwll be a 3.07 rear which explains the idle at 70 and posi G80 was not available with 3.07 ratio yet til 70 or 71 4.11 is super rare to find example of in 67-72 trucks, came with M10 O/D tranny option and not available with the 396 sounds like your truck's entire drivetrain has been cusotm built by someone with extra $$$ and time welcome to the forum Last edited by Fast68Chevy; 07-06-2002 at 03:44 PM.

07-06-2002, 03:55 PM	#11
1968 C-10Cowboy Registered User Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: Midland,Texas Posts: 46	The guy I bought it from said he had the rear end rebuilt back in may 2002. He said they put 4.11 gears in it and the total cost w/ labor was $480.00. From the looks of the pumpkin plate..it has been removed...I do need to re-test it though. I cant take off peeling rubber due to the stahl converter...or just typical holly adjustments! lol .I wish i knew the actual specs on this monster machine. =P The actual vin on the door and title is CE148S __________________ 350/.30 400 Turbo Trans 3.73 Rear end Last edited by 1968 C-10Cowboy; 07-06-2002 at 03:58 PM.

07-06-2002, 04:01 PM	#12
chevyman 68 C/10 Registered User Join Date: Feb 2002 Location: Gilmer, Texas USA Posts: 313	Welcome the more Texans the better!!!!!! SWINGSAX68 if cowboy is not interested in the grill I just might be __________________ 69 Chevy short fleet side soon to have LT1 and 4L60E pb. ps cruise and air. 68 Chevy short fleet side 400 sb 5 inch chop top pb. ps. pw. 350 auto and shaved handles 68 anniversary no engine long wheel base 400 auto FOR SALE 68 Chevy fleet side long wheel base complete parts truck.

07-06-2002, 04:05 PM	#13
68 Stepside huh? Join Date: May 2000 Location: Washington, Illinois Posts: 5,692	Welcome from Central IL, sounds like you've got a neat truck! TJ __________________ Someday when I'm lonely, Wishing you weren't so far away, Then I will remember Things we said today. RIP El Jay

07-06-2002, 04:10 PM	#14
1968 C-10Cowboy Registered User Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: Midland,Texas Posts: 46	I found a 68 grille from bbs1965 for 30. He lives in arlington. Not sure if he still has it or not. How much for your grille SWINGSax68? Im also having front end problems. Every once in a while when i back up and turn, one wheel turns and the other stays!! then i have to kick my tie rods to get my wheels to cooperate with eachother. The only loose part i see is the isler arm..just very little movement like the bolts are loose that hols it to the frame. __________________ 350/.30 400 Turbo Trans 3.73 Rear end

07-06-2002, 04:10 PM	#15
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07-06-2002, 06:12 PM	#16
Longhorn Man its all about the +6 inches Join Date: Jan 2001 Location: Hilliard Ohio Posts: 2,693	WOAH!!! Front tires pointing in oposite directions is not a good thing...at any speed. 3000 RPM's at 70-ish sounds an awfull lot like 3.07's to me. That would also explain why you cant spin them out of the hole...the confusing part is though, a high stall converter would induce tire spin, not hamper it. Lookin forward to some pics of your rig. Here is why I say 3.07's, this is my 350 powered 69 GMC...TH350 tranny, 28-ish inch tall tires, and a 3.07 nasty-@ss freeway gear. Attached Images

07-06-2002, 07:11 PM	#17
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07-06-2002, 08:24 PM	#18
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07-07-2002, 12:19 PM	#19
SWINGSAX68 Now the others dig........ Join Date: May 2002 Location: San Antonio, TX Posts: 1,520	hmmmm well, Chevyman, Cowboy, I emailed Cowboy on the grille and other things, I hadn't seen the posts yet, and I have the price upped to $50, But like I emailed to cowboy, we can talk about prices, so $30 sounds fair.....You all just need to catch me when I am in San Antonio, weekends are best. I got other stuff just check the link below, I also have a few things I don't have pics of.....just minor things., one good door panel, fuse box, some wire harnesses, engine mounts, front brake lines, fuel lines, a crappy radio in the dash, Door glass...etc., Back-up lamp brackets, 2 3-speed columns. It's like a partial whole truck, man!!!!!! I would like to keep the wheels so when I get fed up with it I can send it away. But let me know guys!!!!!! What I'm looking for are the shift indicators for an auto steering column, the pointer and Indicator. thanks -Roger __________________ 68 Chevy C10 Stepside Black Primer 78 GMC Longbed White 09 Chevy Silverado Shortbed Granite Blue *LOOKING FOR A 67 4 DOOR IMPALA!!!Just like Sam and Dean Winchester!! 'Cause Mustangs are for p^#$ and you can fit a body in the trunk of a 67 Impala* MEMBER OF THE DRUM BRAKE CLUB Bachelor of Music in Jazz Studies Texas State University-San Marcos, TX Certified Music Educator I hope Mom is up there watching and being my Guardian Angel "I've got a fever.....and the only prescription.....IS MORE COW BELL" -The Legendary: Bruce Dickenson "F#$@ 'em up!!!!!!" -The Legendary: Rogelio Escobar TRUCKY LINKS** http://67-72chevytrucks.com/vboard/s...d.php?t=457750 http://67-72chevytrucks.com/vboard/s...d.php?t=461184 http://67-72chevytrucks.com/vboard/s...d.php?t=472848 http://67-72chevytrucks.com/vboard/s...d.php?t=417541 http://67-72chevytrucks.com/vboard/s...d.php?t=477788

07-07-2002, 05:28 PM	#20
SWINGSAX68 Now the others dig........ Join Date: May 2002 Location: San Antonio, TX Posts: 1,520	Cowboy..... Lets seal the deal!!!!!!!!!!! You have mail!!!!! __________________ 68 Chevy C10 Stepside Black Primer 78 GMC Longbed White 09 Chevy Silverado Shortbed Granite Blue *LOOKING FOR A 67 4 DOOR IMPALA!!!Just like Sam and Dean Winchester!! 'Cause Mustangs are for p^#$ and you can fit a body in the trunk of a 67 Impala* MEMBER OF THE DRUM BRAKE CLUB Bachelor of Music in Jazz Studies Texas State University-San Marcos, TX Certified Music Educator I hope Mom is up there watching and being my Guardian Angel "I've got a fever.....and the only prescription.....IS MORE COW BELL" -The Legendary: Bruce Dickenson "F#$@ 'em up!!!!!!" -The Legendary: Rogelio Escobar TRUCKY LINKS** http://67-72chevytrucks.com/vboard/s...d.php?t=457750 http://67-72chevytrucks.com/vboard/s...d.php?t=461184 http://67-72chevytrucks.com/vboard/s...d.php?t=472848 http://67-72chevytrucks.com/vboard/s...d.php?t=417541 http://67-72chevytrucks.com/vboard/s...d.php?t=477788

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