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kgmunro · 07-21-2020, 08:40 AM

Hey. I’m fixing a 67 c10. But have front sheet metal issues. I bought goodmark fenders. Installed. But with grill in place now my headlight buckets are not centred. Anyone have this issue?? They sit too far in. Tried two different original grilles. Original rad support. No idea what to do.

**Ironangel** · 07-21-2020, 10:30 AM

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Originally Posted by kgmunro

Hey. I’m fixing a 67 c10. But have front sheet metal issues. I bought goodmark fenders. Installed. But with grill in place now my headlight buckets are not centred. Anyone have this issue?? They sit too far in. Tried two different original grilles. Original rad support. No idea what to do.

Have any pics? The fenders shouldn't interfere with the headlight buckets, the buckets are located on the radiator support aren't they? Are you sure you have 67 fenders? The fenders, core support, and hood are 67-68 specific...

kgmunro · 07-21-2020, 10:36 AM

I can’t see how to add pics

**Ironangel** · 07-21-2020, 10:46 AM

Use the "Go Advanced" button below, that should bring up any pics saved on your phone or computer...You'll have to take the pics and then download them to your computer. I don't have a smart phone so I don't know how to post off a phone...?

gmc684x4 · 07-22-2020, 01:34 PM

Here is a quick clip showing the fender differences

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=N6dMFlzqIS8

kgmunro · 07-22-2020, 02:00 PM

They are reproduction 67 fenders. Its more where the grille side meets the headlight. Way too tight there

kgmunro · 07-23-2020, 07:55 AM

Will try adding pic

kgmunro · 07-23-2020, 07:56 AM

See how the pot sits too far inward. I can’t put the headlight bezel on

**Grumpy old man** · 07-23-2020, 08:18 AM

Did you replace the core support ?

**Boog** · 07-23-2020, 08:36 AM

up

kgmunro · 07-23-2020, 08:45 AM

No. Factory core support. Thats why I’m baffled

Davidf · 07-23-2020, 09:18 AM

Is just a matter of an optical allusion because the headlight bucket is adjusted extremely inward. Try using the adjustment screws to ensure bucket is more co-planar to the front grille. Could it also be that you have the LH bucket in the RH position? The headlight buckets are handed. Just throwing out thoughts.

kgmunro · 07-23-2020, 09:20 AM

Well i tried adjusting and reversing side to side. It’s strange because the bezels fit nice until the pots are installed

**Boog** · 07-23-2020, 10:05 AM

If both buckets seem to be offset to the center of an OE support I wonder if the radiator support is pushed inward in the middle possibly from past front end damage. That gap between the hood and grille in the middle looks suspect. More pics may help.

kgmunro · 07-23-2020, 10:10 AM

I was wondering about that too. The rad support is straight though. Here is a pic of the nose

**Boog** · 07-23-2020, 10:14 AM

It is a bit cross eyed isn't it?
Does the hood latch down alright and the hood center point line up over the center point of the grille?

I have heard of a guy drilling out the spot welds and moving the bucket mounts over to line them up using an aftermarket rad support but never with a OE one.

kgmunro · 07-23-2020, 10:56 AM

Seems to line up otherwise. There is slight gap issues from fenders to hood but i think it’s because jobber fenders. I was thinking about making sure the sheetmetal is aligned and moving the headlight mounts as well. Just bit sure why with an oem grille and rad support

**Boog** · 07-23-2020, 11:18 AM

But if your rad support and grille are OE then the buckets ought to line up better than that. The mismatch is toward the grille side, not the fender side. Maybe Mike (member 3757chevy) could be of help as he recently put a 67 front clip together on his.

kgmunro · 07-23-2020, 11:29 AM

I wonder if its pulled out and lifted in the center if that will help. I won’t be able to get back to it until Saturday

gmc684x4 · 07-23-2020, 01:11 PM

Looking at your headlight bucket placement suggests its not a 67 68 possibly a 69 to 72

My only 68 I have is a Gmc so I can not use that as a measurement to see if the headlight bucket shifts on the 69 72 rad supports

Left pic is a 67 68 rad support and the right pic is a 69 72 support

you can see the 67 68 are a nice round backing area where the 69 72 are more off centre keystone shape

gmc684x4 · 07-23-2020, 02:01 PM

Head light buckets are lh rh so they can be in wrong spot they are also 67 68 and 69 72 specific as well

kgmunro · 07-23-2020, 02:51 PM

My buddy has a spare rad support. I will grab his

kgmunro · 07-23-2020, 03:33 PM

Heres what the backing looks like

**Grumpy old man** · 07-23-2020, 03:45 PM

This is a Chevy factory 67 core support , 67 factory fender and 67 factory grille mocked up , It looks like your using the later core support ?

kgmunro · 07-23-2020, 03:53 PM

My buddy has a spare core support. I will compare

07-21-2020, 08:40 AM	#1
kgmunro Registered User Join Date: May 2009 Location: Brandon Manitoba Canada Posts: 342	Front sheet metal issues Hey. I’m fixing a 67 c10. But have front sheet metal issues. I bought goodmark fenders. Installed. But with grill in place now my headlight buckets are not centred. Anyone have this issue?? They sit too far in. Tried two different original grilles. Original rad support. No idea what to do.

07-21-2020, 10:36 AM	#3
kgmunro Registered User Join Date: May 2009 Location: Brandon Manitoba Canada Posts: 342	Re: Front sheet metal issues I can’t see how to add pics

07-21-2020, 10:46 AM	#4
Ironangel Senior Member Join Date: Feb 2010 Location: Falls City, Nebraska "100 Miles From Nowhere" Posts: 2,219	Re: Front sheet metal issues Use the "Go Advanced" button below, that should bring up any pics saved on your phone or computer...You'll have to take the pics and then download them to your computer. I don't have a smart phone so I don't know how to post off a phone...? __________________ Michael of the clan Hill, "Two Seventy Two's" 71 1-ton Dually 350 4-Speed 71 C/50 Grain Truck, 350 Split-Axle 4-Speed 02 3/4 ton Express 14 Indian Chief Vintage 1952 Ford 8N, "Only Ford Allowed On The Property" "Be American, Buy American"

07-22-2020, 01:34 PM	#5
gmc684x4 Registered User Join Date: Jul 2012 Location: Whitehorse yukon Posts: 1,218	Re: Front sheet metal issues Here is a quick clip showing the fender differences https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=N6dMFlzqIS8

07-22-2020, 02:00 PM	#6
kgmunro Registered User Join Date: May 2009 Location: Brandon Manitoba Canada Posts: 342	Re: Front sheet metal issues They are reproduction 67 fenders. Its more where the grille side meets the headlight. Way too tight there

07-23-2020, 07:55 AM	#7
kgmunro Registered User Join Date: May 2009 Location: Brandon Manitoba Canada Posts: 342	Re: Front sheet metal issues Will try adding pic Attached Images

07-23-2020, 07:56 AM	#8
kgmunro Registered User Join Date: May 2009 Location: Brandon Manitoba Canada Posts: 342	Re: Front sheet metal issues See how the pot sits too far inward. I can’t put the headlight bezel on

07-23-2020, 08:18 AM	#9
Grumpy old man Senior Member Join Date: Dec 2013 Location: Gods country East,Tn Posts: 8,545	Re: Front sheet metal issues Did you replace the core support ? __________________ 1967 Factory short bed - Old school '71 - 350 / 4bolt / 487 heads / Edelbrock C3BX Muncie M-22 4 speed / Hurst Comp plus Factory 12 bolt posi 3.73 / 255-70-15 Smoothed firewall / Factory cowl induction Power disc brakes / power steering / 3.5-5" drop

07-23-2020, 08:36 AM	#10
Boog laying low Join Date: Mar 2001 Location: Searcy, Ark. USA Posts: 12,957	Re: Front sheet metal issues up Attached Images __________________ Boog 69 Chevy stepside, 358/T350, 4.11 posi, 4.5/4 drop, rallys, poboy driver primer is finer 91 Chevy sportside, Tahoe, Yukon & GMC Crewcab All GM..'nuff said. I stand for the flag and kneel at the cross

07-23-2020, 08:45 AM	#11
kgmunro Registered User Join Date: May 2009 Location: Brandon Manitoba Canada Posts: 342	Re: Front sheet metal issues No. Factory core support. Thats why I’m baffled

07-23-2020, 09:18 AM	#12
Davidf Registered User Join Date: Nov 2014 Location: Austin Posts: 749	Re: Front sheet metal issues Is just a matter of an optical allusion because the headlight bucket is adjusted extremely inward. Try using the adjustment screws to ensure bucket is more co-planar to the front grille. Could it also be that you have the LH bucket in the RH position? The headlight buckets are handed. Just throwing out thoughts.

07-23-2020, 09:20 AM	#13
kgmunro Registered User Join Date: May 2009 Location: Brandon Manitoba Canada Posts: 342	Re: Front sheet metal issues Well i tried adjusting and reversing side to side. It’s strange because the bezels fit nice until the pots are installed

07-23-2020, 10:05 AM	#14
Boog laying low Join Date: Mar 2001 Location: Searcy, Ark. USA Posts: 12,957	Re: Front sheet metal issues If both buckets seem to be offset to the center of an OE support I wonder if the radiator support is pushed inward in the middle possibly from past front end damage. That gap between the hood and grille in the middle looks suspect. More pics may help. __________________ Boog 69 Chevy stepside, 358/T350, 4.11 posi, 4.5/4 drop, rallys, poboy driver primer is finer 91 Chevy sportside, Tahoe, Yukon & GMC Crewcab All GM..'nuff said. I stand for the flag and kneel at the cross

07-23-2020, 10:10 AM	#15
kgmunro Registered User Join Date: May 2009 Location: Brandon Manitoba Canada Posts: 342	Re: Front sheet metal issues I was wondering about that too. The rad support is straight though. Here is a pic of the nose Attached Images

07-23-2020, 10:14 AM	#16
Boog laying low Join Date: Mar 2001 Location: Searcy, Ark. USA Posts: 12,957	Re: Front sheet metal issues It is a bit cross eyed isn't it? Does the hood latch down alright and the hood center point line up over the center point of the grille? I have heard of a guy drilling out the spot welds and moving the bucket mounts over to line them up using an aftermarket rad support but never with a OE one. __________________ Boog 69 Chevy stepside, 358/T350, 4.11 posi, 4.5/4 drop, rallys, poboy driver primer is finer 91 Chevy sportside, Tahoe, Yukon & GMC Crewcab All GM..'nuff said. I stand for the flag and kneel at the cross



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07-23-2020, 10:56 AM	#17
kgmunro Registered User Join Date: May 2009 Location: Brandon Manitoba Canada Posts: 342	Re: Front sheet metal issues Seems to line up otherwise. There is slight gap issues from fenders to hood but i think it’s because jobber fenders. I was thinking about making sure the sheetmetal is aligned and moving the headlight mounts as well. Just bit sure why with an oem grille and rad support

07-23-2020, 11:18 AM	#18
Boog laying low Join Date: Mar 2001 Location: Searcy, Ark. USA Posts: 12,957	Re: Front sheet metal issues But if your rad support and grille are OE then the buckets ought to line up better than that. The mismatch is toward the grille side, not the fender side. Maybe Mike (member 3757chevy) could be of help as he recently put a 67 front clip together on his. __________________ Boog 69 Chevy stepside, 358/T350, 4.11 posi, 4.5/4 drop, rallys, poboy driver primer is finer 91 Chevy sportside, Tahoe, Yukon & GMC Crewcab All GM..'nuff said. I stand for the flag and kneel at the cross

07-23-2020, 11:29 AM	#19
kgmunro Registered User Join Date: May 2009 Location: Brandon Manitoba Canada Posts: 342	Re: Front sheet metal issues I wonder if its pulled out and lifted in the center if that will help. I won’t be able to get back to it until Saturday

07-23-2020, 01:11 PM	#20
gmc684x4 Registered User Join Date: Jul 2012 Location: Whitehorse yukon Posts: 1,218	Re: Front sheet metal issues Looking at your headlight bucket placement suggests its not a 67 68 possibly a 69 to 72 My only 68 I have is a Gmc so I can not use that as a measurement to see if the headlight bucket shifts on the 69 72 rad supports Left pic is a 67 68 rad support and the right pic is a 69 72 support you can see the 67 68 are a nice round backing area where the 69 72 are more off centre keystone shape Attached Images

07-23-2020, 02:01 PM	#21
gmc684x4 Registered User Join Date: Jul 2012 Location: Whitehorse yukon Posts: 1,218	Re: Front sheet metal issues Head light buckets are lh rh so they can be in wrong spot they are also 67 68 and 69 72 specific as well

07-23-2020, 02:51 PM	#22
kgmunro Registered User Join Date: May 2009 Location: Brandon Manitoba Canada Posts: 342	Re: Front sheet metal issues My buddy has a spare rad support. I will grab his

07-23-2020, 03:33 PM	#23
kgmunro Registered User Join Date: May 2009 Location: Brandon Manitoba Canada Posts: 342	Re: Front sheet metal issues Heres what the backing looks like Attached Images

07-23-2020, 03:45 PM	#24
Grumpy old man Senior Member Join Date: Dec 2013 Location: Gods country East,Tn Posts: 8,545	Re: Front sheet metal issues This is a Chevy factory 67 core support , 67 factory fender and 67 factory grille mocked up , It looks like your using the later core support ? Attached Images __________________ 1967 Factory short bed - Old school '71 - 350 / 4bolt / 487 heads / Edelbrock C3BX Muncie M-22 4 speed / Hurst Comp plus Factory 12 bolt posi 3.73 / 255-70-15 Smoothed firewall / Factory cowl induction Power disc brakes / power steering / 3.5-5" drop

07-23-2020, 03:53 PM	#25
kgmunro Registered User Join Date: May 2009 Location: Brandon Manitoba Canada Posts: 342	Re: Front sheet metal issues My buddy has a spare core support. I will compare

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