How to install a Camaro T-5

[weekendracer728]

Originally Posted by pillow

that sounds better any idea what the clutch disc pn is?

Thanks!!!

zzz-d4212

[Pillow]

THanks for the PN! Ordered it last night.

FWIW the clutch disc is from an 88 (80's) Chevy Astro van... I didn't even know they came in a manual shift! LOL The Astro disk is a true 11" where the Advanced Adaptors disk mentioned earlier in this thread is 10.5".

Once everything arrives I will start taking pictures and create a how-to like Brad did originally. I know this is a little different flavor since I am using a S-10 T-5.

[Pillow]

Parts acquired! Pics to come over the Thanksgiving weekend!

Would it be helpful to have a separate thread for a S-10 specific transmission swap... Instead of mucking up the Camaro swap thread? FWIW the installations are different, a few different twists.

[Pillow]

Driveshaft is at the shop today getting shortened! 3.25-3.5" shortening is what I came up with.

Transmission is installed! We will see what happens later this week.

[LoudLowNslow]

Hey guys, I have a 66 gmc with a 250 i6 and 3 on the tree. Would you consider a t-5 swap something a DIY'r can handle? I've never touched a trans. But would like to be able to cruise at highway speeds without tacking high. What would be the "easiest" trans to bolt in? If I ran one from an 80s camaro would I have to modify the crossmember or driveshaft? Thanks for any help!
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[Pillow]

I did not use a crossmember, but I did have to have the driveshaft shortened.

That being said I am not familiar with the specifics of the I6s to say for certain what fits/bolts up or not.

[jlive68]

ttt

[68_chop_top]

If you are using a I6 and manual 3 speed tranny, the engine is mounted using two motor mounts and two bell housing mounts. There is no tranny cross member. I ran the T5 with it just bolted to the bell housing. You will have to modify the drive shaft. Use the existing bell housing and the 11" clutch and yoke.
Remove the drive shaft, remove the tranny. Re-assemble in reverse order.

[lilpoindexter]

I put a whiny T5 from an '83 Camaro in my truck 14 months ago..it wails like a banshee now, and pops out of 4th when I downshift into 4th from 5th, like coming off the freeway off ramp. Im going to buy a rebuild kit with bearings and syncros and try to do it up myself. The trans was junk when I installed, it always whined, but now its just ridiculous.
If I have it in neutral at a stop light, without my foot on the clutch people look at me...when I shift into gear and depress the clutch, the bearing quiets down enough that no one stares at me.

[Frijolito1988]

Originally Posted by lilpoindexter

I put a whiny T5 from an '83 Camaro in my truck 14 months ago..it wails like a banshee now, and pops out of 4th when I downshift into 4th from 5th, like coming off the freeway off ramp. Im going to buy a rebuild kit with bearings and syncros and try to do it up myself. The trans was junk when I installed, it always whined, but now its just ridiculous.
If I have it in neutral at a stop light, without my foot on the clutch people look at me...when I shift into gear and depress the clutch, the bearing quiets down enough that no one stares at me.

What Gears do you have ?

[lilpoindexter]

I have 3:73's in the back, the trans is a 1352-028 tag out of a '83 V8 camaro.

[Frijolito1988]

Originally Posted by lilpoindexter

I have 3:73's in the back, the trans is a 1352-028 tag out of a '83 V8 camaro.

ah ok, we have a T5 but dont have the info as dont know the PO. Our 5th gear is pretty much unusable. That would mean that we have really low gears out back right ?

The code in the tailshaft is 1352 201 out of a 90 S 10.

I suspect that the transmission is from a camaro, but they changed out the tailshaft. Does the actually transmission body have a code as well ?

[lilpoindexter]

If people start mixing and matching trans parts, there's really no telling what you have. Even though my trans is 83 camaro, the tailshaft is 84 S10 T5. I tried to be dilligent and put the trans tag from the camaro back on, just in case I sold the truck, and the new owners needed to know (or I forgot)

[Frijolito1988]

For you guys with the T5 on the 250 what speed are you cruising at ?

We just installed a 3.73 rear end , swapped out the old which was either 3.07 or 3.42 rear end and we did see a bit of a difference but at 5th gear on the freeway we are going at about 65-70 at about 2500 RPM. But thats about as much as it will go, I dont think it will push 75-80. What do you guys think is the problem ?

[Frijolito1988]

another question guys.

What would happen if we have a T5 with no adaptor plate to make up for input shaft leght ? Would some gears not work , or would you not be able to bolt up the gear box to the bell housing ?

[Zeke's Garage]

Hey guys, got my T5 install completed a couple weeks ago, and things went together much better than I had expected.

I'm currently running an inline 250 with a Megasquirted TBI fuel injection system. The truck was originally a 3 speed ott, but the linkage and transmission were in horrible shape.

I had two T5's, one from an '83 Camaro (NWC) and one from an '89 S10 4 cyl (WC). I used the Camaro main body mostly because of the 26 spline input shaft, and put on the S10 tailshaft for the shifter location. I made a vertical mount bracing crossmember from the old rubber mount and two support struts that came with the S10 transmission <insert picture here>

Overall the truck drives very nicely, but the higher (numerically lower) Camaro gears aren't the greatest for first gear, and even with the 3:73 rear in my truck, the overdrive is only good for 60 plus on the highway. Now that I know I can get an 11" clutch for the 14 spline S10, I might just swap the S10 WC body back into it and get the better gear ratios.

Also, I now have no speedometer, since the Camaro was a manual, and the S10 was an electronic, there was no easy way to make either of them work for now.

I haven't put too many miles on it yet, as I need to get it aligned after replacing the power steering box, so highway mileage still needs to be checked.

[Straight six]

That's so cool I just bought a s10 t5 pretty cheap I was going to throw it in my 78 c15 tired of driving 55 on the highway but I think I'm young to search for the camaro t5 for the extra durability should be able to find one pretty cheap. Could use the s10 hurst shifter


Thanks
Straight six
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[mopar346]

Great thread Brad, the fact that people are still looking at it and responding this far after you posted speaks volumes. I noticed that no one on here has talked about aftermarket gear sets. They are available and in conjunction with the WC set up they greatly increase the duribility of the the unit. They can how ever be pricey. I picked a WC T-5 a few days ago for a song to put in my son's 1st gen Camaro but we are running way to much Hp and torque for it to last in it's stock form so I am looking for options to strengthen it. Does anyone have any info on that?

[Beetle]

Just bought a Camaro T5 for $400 tonite. Trans, clutch, press plate, flywheel, pedal, slave cylinder, bolts to attach the trans to the engine and this shifter:


Great writeup you have here, I will use that link on the first page to discect what year Camaro this came from, but I know it is a WC because it has electronic speedo. So the money I saved by not going 700R4 will be put to use buying gauges
This guy had it in his Blazer, got tired of shifting so he went the TH350 route...

[Gumby]

dunno where else it to dump it.

someone is exploring an iron case

http://www.thirdgen.org/techboard/tr...nsmission.html

[sambudo]

nice write up

[CRGRS 66]

Hey Brad, I m doing a frame off resto on my 66 short fleet, orignal engine was a 283, I have a mild 350 going in with my camaro 5spd with S10 tail shaft, I bought the same clutch pack the MU56-1, and had my flywheel from the 283 resurfaced. The splines on the clutch are a good fit, but the bolt pattern on the pressure plate does not match my flywheel? The bolt pattern on the flywheel is a bigger bolt circle??
Would you or any other subscribers know what clutch pack I need to get?

[Lugnutz65]

Call Richie. He will get you what you need.
Brake & Clutch Supply
Ask for Richie
407 So 8th St
Waco, Tx 76706
254-752-4307
Fax 254-752-7533

[CRGRS 66]

Thanks lugnutz! I called Richie, great guy, he says that i need a clutch pack for an 86-90 Astro van with a 4.3, but he also said good luck finding one. If i can't find one he will fix me up. I will follow up here with my results.

[Lugnutz65]

Originally Posted by CRGRS 66

Thanks lugnutz! I called Richie, great guy, he says that i need a clutch pack for an 86-90 Astro van with a 4.3, but he also said good luck finding one. If i can't find one he will fix me up. I will follow up here with my results.

Richie can actually make what you need if necessary.