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Killer Bee · 06-12-2020, 06:19 PM

**Steeveedee** · 06-12-2020, 08:24 PM

^That right there is the poster-child for a full-pen weld!

NOT. I sure am glad that I have four pin-type jack stands that I bought 40+ years ago here in the non-corrosive California desert region. They don't have the range of the ratchet-style, but I can live with that.

**special-K** · 06-13-2020, 06:37 AM

The thing with using masonry objects is you need to put a block of wood on top to contact the vehicle with. Masonry will, or can, break with weight concentrated on one area

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They just don't make stickers as strong as they used to

**Wgesnerjr** · 06-13-2020, 09:15 AM

Here's the story
https://www.thedrive.com/news/34038/...ely-failed-too

Broke under a Volkswagen GTI ! Imagine what a C20 would do to it!

jjzepplin · 06-13-2020, 09:30 AM

Looks like I am going to reinforce my jack stands even though they were not purchased at HF.

**Wgesnerjr** · 06-13-2020, 09:38 AM

A long time ago my father-in-law gave me this little guy. I've always been a little leery about using it and always preferred to use my Harbor freight Jack stands. Well now... this one's not looking so bad.

Killer Bee · 06-13-2020, 01:15 PM

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Originally Posted by 53burb

http://www.msn.com/en-us/autos/news/...6S8?li=BBnb4R5

thanks for the article, my google-foo was weak yesterday apparently

let's make sure all the harbor freight fans see this.. be safe under those trucks!

Harbor Freight recall replacement jack stands may be unsafe too, report says

1976gmc20 · 06-13-2020, 05:32 PM

How does one weld that badly ???

I taught myself to weld but I was able to bend or break some pretty big pieces of steel while my welds held just fine. Guess my welding was better than my engineering

**special-K** · 06-14-2020, 06:26 AM

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Originally Posted by 1976gmc20

How does one weld that badly ???

How does that get painted and a sticker applied? Absolutely NO quality inspection what so ever. Just poop them out and send a container load to America.

It actually pisses me off that HF calls their China crap "Pittsburg" tools. What a kick in the face to steal the name of a city where you killed their steel industry with inferior products made overseas.

1976gmc20 · 06-14-2020, 10:57 AM

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Originally Posted by special-K

How does that get painted and a sticker applied? Absolutely NO quality inspection what so ever. Just poop them out and send a container load to America.

...

Maybe they are actually trying to kill us ?

**special-K** · 06-14-2020, 11:07 AM

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Originally Posted by 1976gmc20

Maybe they are actually trying to kill us ?

Sorry, I can't believe that. They would have caulked it before painting if that was true

**richard2717** · 07-07-2020, 04:29 PM

https://www.roadandtrack.com/car-cul...1u7Zh_T4n_J3Z4

Aparently some of the replacements are being recalled as well

**Wgesnerjr** · 07-07-2020, 05:06 PM

I used to question these at the local Pull-a-part in Atlanta. Now, they're starting to look good!

**special-K** · 07-09-2020, 07:43 AM

That is very stable. What bugs me with those is when I see them use the steelies I'd like to buy. They use the steel wheels and scrap the alloy

**GOPAPA** · 07-09-2020, 08:58 AM

I never trusted the jack stands ,, always used wood blocks . Them pick and pull yards do use a lot of wheels to hold up the cars and trucks .. looked ok ..

treveiger · 07-11-2020, 02:25 AM

Actually had one of their sets drop my truck down a few inches a little over a month ago. Thankfully it was when I was done with the oil change and just tightening up the lug nuts from rotating the tires. Nice little dent on my frame from it. Makes me cringe thinking we used these things when replacing the trans wiring harness on my father's 3/4 ton and he used them by himself fixing the brakes on my mother's truck before I had the stand drop on me. No more cheap safety equipment for this family... Not worth even the fear of what could of happened.

Axle · 07-11-2020, 09:50 AM

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Originally Posted by 1976gmc20

How does one weld that badly ???

When you need to slam out 10,000 of those things in a day to make a yen, you go through the motions.
Back in the 80's, I seem to remember the rule of thumb for buying jackstands was to buy ones that had the legs tied together to prevent spreading, seems that bit of safety advice has fallen by the wayside some time ago.

Heres a pallet rack that was hit by a forklift (not my photo), in this case, I'm guessing bad welds probably prevented more damage to the racks, in any case, zoom it at the broken off floor plate. Those plates are theoretically welded on the two long sides. Take a look at the dust on the floor plate, certainly wasn't a complete weld on the far side.
https://i.imgur.com/spZS3Sf.jpg

I like the solid post design, not very adjustable, but theres no legs to fail except those that provide sideways toppling;
https://www.amazon.ca/Torin-Ton-Vehi.../dp/B0058T99DM

**special-K** · 07-11-2020, 10:02 AM

I feel safe with my antique Blackhawks I got from an automotive supply house. Made of angle with struts between all four legs. Stamped out and run a quick bead is not a good design. Especially at the speed they are popped out, as mentioned. "carefully" assembled they could work just fine

Killer Bee · 07-11-2020, 02:54 PM

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Originally Posted by Axle

When you need to slam out 10,000 of those things in a day to make a yen, you go through the motions.
Back in the 80's, I seem to remember the rule of thumb for buying jackstands was to buy ones that had the legs tied together to prevent spreading, seems that bit of safety advice has fallen by the wayside some time ago.

Heres a pallet rack that was hit by a forklift (not my photo), in this case, I'm guessing bad welds probably prevented more damage to the racks, in any case, zoom it at the broken off floor plate. Those plates are theoretically welded on the two long sides. Take a look at the dust on the floor plate, certainly wasn't a complete weld on the far side.
https://i.imgur.com/spZS3Sf.jpg

I like the solid post design, not very adjustable, but theres no legs to fail except those that provide sideways toppling;
https://www.amazon.ca/Torin-Ton-Vehi.../dp/B0058T99DM

I think there's some in the links I posted here that are cross drilled for more adjustments..

http://www.67-72chevytrucks.com/vboa...5&postcount=19

burnin oil · 07-12-2020, 09:39 PM

As a safety measure i always leave something under a vehicle i am working on besides Jack stands. It may be a removed tire, the jack, or a stack of 6x6s. I spend alot of time not working on paved surfaces so I don't trust any one particular method as I have seen them all fail. I try and put a sheet of plywood down first when practical. As a side i used to work at a junk yard and I have seen the double rim method break or fall also. I do think that they are much better than what we call Jack stands though. If you have a dought you need to reexamine your setup as I can't think of many worse ways to go than the truck falling off the jack.

06-12-2020, 06:19 PM	#51
Killer Bee Registered User Join Date: Jan 2016 Location: Barber City, CA Posts: 4,718	Re: HF jack stand recall __________________ *I started out with nothing - and I still have most of it*

06-12-2020, 08:24 PM	#52
Steeveedee Who Changed This? Join Date: Jan 2013 Location: Simi Valley, CA Posts: 10,081	Re: HF jack stand recall ^That right there is the poster-child for a full-pen weld! NOT. I sure am glad that I have four pin-type jack stands that I bought 40+ years ago here in the non-corrosive California desert region. They don't have the range of the ratchet-style, but I can live with that. __________________ ~Steven '70 Chevy 3/4T Longhorn CST 402/400/3.56 Custom Camper Simi Valley, CA

06-13-2020, 09:15 AM	#54
Wgesnerjr Senior Member Join Date: Jun 2015 Location: Atlanta, GA. Posts: 737	Re: HF jack stand recall Here's the story https://www.thedrive.com/news/34038/...ely-failed-too Broke under a Volkswagen GTI ! Imagine what a C20 would do to it! __________________ Jay Gesner Atlanta, GA 1985 C10 Long Bed 4X2 LS 5.3, 4L60E Father/Daughter Project

06-13-2020, 09:30 AM	#55
jjzepplin Registered User Join Date: Feb 2012 Location: Ruskin Florida Posts: 4,544	Re: HF jack stand recall Looks like I am going to reinforce my jack stands even though they were not purchased at HF. __________________ 70 swb 4x4 406sbc 700r4 203/205 d60/14blt locker yadda yadda http://67-72chevytrucks.com/vboard/s...88#post6935688 Yeller 72 Blazer 2wd conversion project "No Daggum Money" http://67-72chevytrucks.com/vboard/s...d.php?t=550804 LS1-T56 3.73 LSD super budget build Blanco-2014 Sierra SWB https://67-72chevytrucks.com/vboard/...d.php?t=810350

06-13-2020, 09:38 AM	#56
Wgesnerjr Senior Member Join Date: Jun 2015 Location: Atlanta, GA. Posts: 737	Re: HF jack stand recall A long time ago my father-in-law gave me this little guy. I've always been a little leery about using it and always preferred to use my Harbor freight Jack stands. Well now... this one's not looking so bad. Attached Images __________________ Jay Gesner Atlanta, GA 1985 C10 Long Bed 4X2 LS 5.3, 4L60E Father/Daughter Project Last edited by Wgesnerjr; 06-13-2020 at 11:42 AM.

06-13-2020, 05:32 PM	#58
1976gmc20 Registered User Join Date: May 2015 Location: Montana Posts: 3,696	Re: HF jack stand recall How does one weld that badly ??? I taught myself to weld but I was able to bend or break some pretty big pieces of steel while my welds held just fine. Guess my welding was better than my engineering __________________ Current/past Chevy/GMC trucks: 1958 Chevy C-60; 1965 GMC C-50; 1965 Chevy C-10; 1971 Chevy K-10; 1973 Chevy K-20; 1976 GMC C-20; 1977 Chevy C-10 Suburban; 1980 Chevy K-10; 1989 Chevy K1500; 1991 GMC V1500 Suburban; 2016 Chevy K2500 HD Other vehicles: 1988 Jeep XJ; 2011 Toyota 4Runner

07-07-2020, 04:29 PM	#62
richard2717 Equal opportunity joke ofender Join Date: Oct 2011 Location: Eastern Shore of MD Posts: 9,867	Re: HF jack stand recall https://www.roadandtrack.com/car-cul...1u7Zh_T4n_J3Z4 Aparently some of the replacements are being recalled as well __________________ Members I have met. Dually Jams, OlBlue60, ScottH, Tommyboy24, Dujobo, Warbucket, 2003 Silverado, Notsolo, my90k5, 6t727t2, Special-K ,Jack_71C10, tabarcus,72blazer_mud_bogger,pwdcougar,RSavage,EricSean,1Rippen6,invicta455,tennaragtop71,arks, Kendal,Bennett68C10, Perpendicular, Chainsawman, McGeesCustomMinis,ShortbedClayton,longblue72,6768chevylover,Tim71,Travisarmenta,Ol' Drippy,fleetmitch,georgieb51,Dave,bcnya2,Dadsburb https://paypal.me/6772GMtruckparts Most women like the strong, silent type… Fortunately for me, my wife prefers the out-of-shape, mouthy type.

07-07-2020, 05:06 PM	#63
Wgesnerjr Senior Member Join Date: Jun 2015 Location: Atlanta, GA. Posts: 737	Re: HF jack stand recall I used to question these at the local Pull-a-part in Atlanta. Now, they're starting to look good! Attached Images __________________ Jay Gesner Atlanta, GA 1985 C10 Long Bed 4X2 LS 5.3, 4L60E Father/Daughter Project

07-09-2020, 07:43 AM	#64
special-K Special Order Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: Mt Airy, MD Posts: 85,862	Re: HF jack stand recall That is very stable. What bugs me with those is when I see them use the steelies I'd like to buy. They use the steel wheels and scrap the alloy __________________ "BUILDING A BETTER WAY TO SERVE THE USA"......67/72......"The New Breed" GMC '67 C1500 Wideside Super Custom SWB: 327/M22/3.42 posi.........."The '67" (project) GMC '72 K2500 Wideside Sierra Custom Camper: 350/TH350/4.10 Power-Lok..."The '72" (rolling) Tim "Don't call me a redneck. I'm a rough cut country gentleman" R.I.P. ~ East Side Low Life ~ El Jay ~ 72BLUZ ~ Fasteddie69 ~ Ron586 ~ 67ChevyRedneck ~ Grumpy Old Man ~

07-09-2020, 08:58 AM	#65
GOPAPA "Tail Gate Best Seat In House" Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: Nampa Idaho Posts: 7,338	Re: HF jack stand recall I never trusted the jack stands ,, always used wood blocks . Them pick and pull yards do use a lot of wheels to hold up the cars and trucks .. looked ok .. __________________ When you learn a thing a day you store up smart.

07-11-2020, 02:25 AM	#66
treveiger Senior Member Join Date: Jul 2010 Location: South Dakota Posts: 4,090	Re: HF jack stand recall Actually had one of their sets drop my truck down a few inches a little over a month ago. Thankfully it was when I was done with the oil change and just tightening up the lug nuts from rotating the tires. Nice little dent on my frame from it. Makes me cringe thinking we used these things when replacing the trans wiring harness on my father's 3/4 ton and he used them by himself fixing the brakes on my mother's truck before I had the stand drop on me. No more cheap safety equipment for this family... Not worth even the fear of what could of happened. __________________ 1969 Chevy c20(Miss Hackjob)

07-11-2020, 10:02 AM	#68
special-K Special Order Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: Mt Airy, MD Posts: 85,862	Re: HF jack stand recall I feel safe with my antique Blackhawks I got from an automotive supply house. Made of angle with struts between all four legs. Stamped out and run a quick bead is not a good design. Especially at the speed they are popped out, as mentioned. "carefully" assembled they could work just fine __________________ "BUILDING A BETTER WAY TO SERVE THE USA"......67/72......"The New Breed" GMC '67 C1500 Wideside Super Custom SWB: 327/M22/3.42 posi.........."The '67" (project) GMC '72 K2500 Wideside Sierra Custom Camper: 350/TH350/4.10 Power-Lok..."The '72" (rolling) Tim "Don't call me a redneck. I'm a rough cut country gentleman" R.I.P. ~ East Side Low Life ~ El Jay ~ 72BLUZ ~ Fasteddie69 ~ Ron586 ~ 67ChevyRedneck ~ Grumpy Old Man ~

07-12-2020, 09:39 PM	#70
burnin oil Registered User Join Date: Jan 2013 Location: Eastern TN Posts: 1,919	Re: HF jack stand recall As a safety measure i always leave something under a vehicle i am working on besides Jack stands. It may be a removed tire, the jack, or a stack of 6x6s. I spend alot of time not working on paved surfaces so I don't trust any one particular method as I have seen them all fail. I try and put a sheet of plywood down first when practical. As a side i used to work at a junk yard and I have seen the double rim method break or fall also. I do think that they are much better than what we call Jack stands though. If you have a dought you need to reexamine your setup as I can't think of many worse ways to go than the truck falling off the jack.



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