why the difference

[pimpston65]

found these two why did they make 2 and which came first.

[350TacoZilla]

From what I've been told the solid one was the 1st design and they went with the multi-piece one to help dampen vibrations through the shifter and give it a bit of a buffer from people being too forceful with shifts and munching gears.

[pimpston65]

Originally Posted by 350TacoZilla

From what I've been told the solid one was the 1st design and they went with the multi-piece one to help dampen vibrations through the shifter and give it a bit of a buffer from people being too forceful with shifts and munching gears.

ok. i was thinking they had a casting defect and this how they solved it in house...

[Short 3/4]

Great timing on this question, I was just wondering the same thing. Are both of these styles correct for the SM420? Anybody know if the change was made by date or application (C10 vs C30 or K vs C truck etc).
Any chance of a picture showing the entire sticks side by side?
Thanks for info
Tom

[pimpston65]

Originally Posted by Short 3/4

Great timing on this question, I was just wondering the same thing. Are both of these styles correct for the SM420? Anybody know if the change was made by date or application (C10 vs C30 or K vs C truck etc).
Any chance of a picture showing the entire sticks side by side?
Thanks for info
Tom

i dont have history, but i could post them side by side.

[aerotruk63]

Seems to be something going on for 1965.

[aerotruk63]

Took a picture course it doesn't load. Parts Book states first jobs 1 piece construction less sleeve. After jobs welded construction with sleeve.

part number 3665527 60-62.
3822568 63-64
Same part number as 63-64 for first jobs 65
3860941 65 After Jobs

There are illustrations for a 60-62 4spd transmission and also 63-66. So there must be a difference as well between the two.

[Keith Seymore]

There is actually another later version during the square body era.

The sleeve version shown here has a square feature that fits in the base with rubber molded between the two. A later version is round internally and has 2 “O” rings to provide the isolation.

K

[Short 3/4]

Originally Posted by pimpston65

i dont have history, but i could post them side by side.

Yes,
More pictures by you or anybody else would be great,
Thanks

[pimpston65]

Originally Posted by Short 3/4

Yes,
More pictures by you or anybody else would be great,
Thanks

here u go

[pimpston65]

Originally Posted by pimpston65

here u go

yes one is shorter then the other maybe by a 1/4"

[Short 3/4]

I'm trying to figure out what I have in my pile 'o parts.
My two solid sticks are identical, but the multi-piece one is thicker and about 6" shorter, plus the bend is closer to the base. Would this be correct for a 65?
Are the transmission towers different depending on which stick it came with, or are they all interchangeable?
Finally has anybody replaced the rubber within the lower end? Factory manual refers to them as 'Polyurethane "O" rings'. Where would you get the correct part?
Thanks,
Tom

[pimpston65]

Originally Posted by Short 3/4

I'm trying to figure out what I have in my pile 'o parts.
My two solid sticks are identical, but the multi-piece one is thicker and about 6" shorter, plus the bend is closer to the base. Would this be correct for a 65?
Are the transmission towers different depending on which stick it came with, or are they all interchangeable?
Finally has anybody replaced the rubber within the lower end? Factory manual refers to them as 'Polyurethane "O" rings'. Where would you get the correct part?
Thanks,
Tom

i swapped mine without any fitment issues, i have an extra donut ring that sites between trans and floorboard, if thats the O ring ur taling bout.

[350TacoZilla]

Originally Posted by Short 3/4

I'm trying to figure out what I have in my pile 'o parts.
My two solid sticks are identical, but the multi-piece one is thicker and about 6" shorter, plus the bend is closer to the base. Would this be correct for a 65?
Are the transmission towers different depending on which stick it came with, or are they all interchangeable?
Finally has anybody replaced the rubber within the lower end? Factory manual refers to them as 'Polyurethane "O" rings'. Where would you get the correct part?
Thanks,
Tom

Its always hard to say without seeing the parts but from what I've seen and read here then yes the multi piece one should be for 65-66. The bend & length being different would make me wonder if it wasn't out of something odd like the old c50 bus's or something. Maybe post up a pic or 2 comparing them. I'm also not sure if the factory ones are supposed to be interchangeable but I know a ton of square body guys change out the multi piece ones for solid ones or weld them up tight due to them getting loose repeatedly. I personally bought a brand new solid one just to avoid all that when I was hunting for parts and kept finding sloppy shifters.

Novak sells the solid one and says this as title "Stick, shifter cane, SM420 & SM465 transmissions, upgraded one-piece version"