No-limit relocation kit shocks at an angle Why ?

[ck5566]

Originally Posted by midniteblues

Wow Andy,your rear tires sure are close too the inner fender huh.

Signing on too this one too see what the op comes up with, you all know why...

Ck, those are pretty much the standard aftermarket relocators same as ece's relocators.
There is a write up in the fac section on how too make these out of the oe mounts.
If Ya have the tools they are very easy too make from box tube.

Andy's tires are close as like mine are also, this is what you get when a 12" wide tire is stuffed into there. here is my pics.

[Andy4639]

Originally Posted by midniteblues

Wow Andy,your rear tires sure are close too the inner fender huh.

Signing on too this one too see what the op comes up with, you all know why...

Ck, those are pretty much the standard aftermarket relocators same as ece's relocators.
There is a write up in the fac section on how too make these out of the oe mounts.
If Ya have the tools they are very easy too make from box tube.

Yes it was very close and I did that with my tire choice. I have since added a 1/4" spacer and have had no issues. I also had to re set the trailing arm also and re center it.

[Trevor]

So lots of interest in this topic but no answer to my question hey ?

It boggles my mind that not one company has come up with a better relocation kit and especially when there's no reason the shocks can't be mounted where they should be ?! Wow !
Hmmmm ... (my eyes closed, hands on forehead) I see a new business in my future ...

Just in case anybody wants to know, see the attached pic for the near-perfect shock layout, yeah they're coil-overs on this truck but same concept (thanks to Mike ? for pic).

Well ... I guess I will be adding "fab shock relocation brackets" to my 'to-do' list !
No worries - I will post my results !

[Grumpy old man]

Originally Posted by Trevor

So lots of interest in this topic but no answer to my question hey ?

It boggles my mind that not one company has come up with a better relocation kit and especially when there is no reason the shocks can't be mounted where they should be ?! Wow !
Hmmmm ... (my eyes closed, hands on forehead) I see a new business in my future ...

Yeah just in case anybody wants to know, see the attached pic for the near-perfect shock layout, yeah they're coil-overs on this truck but same concept (thanks to Mike ?).

Well ... I guess I will be adding "fab shock relocation brackets" to my 'to-do' list !
Yeah, No worries - I will post my results !

Yeah but, What size tires can you run 70s ?

[Andy4639]

Unless my eyes are not correct a stock bed will not sit on that set of shock towers on your picture.
Just for the record. The stock shock mounts are mounted fine for a stock truck. When people lower them they put more angle in them which in turn makes them less effective which if you look at a bunch of truck that have not done anything to the rear shocks the mounts are either broke are fixing to break.The attachment point is not very good even on the stock shock ride.

[67ChevyRedneck]

Yup, it's true that shocks outboard of the frame rails offer more stability. They work great on leaf springs trucks, but one of the reason's GM engineer's likely never installed shocks this way is lateral movement. When these trucks were new they had skinny tires that were inches from the wheel wells. When a truck is loaded, or just during everyday driving, the rear end is moving side to side as it moves up and down, whereas in a leaf spring truck, it can only move up and down. The reason GM tilted the shocks inside of the frame rails is so the shock essentially moves side to side with the rear axle as it moves up and down. They gave up stability for longevity. If you look at the leaf spring rear trucks of the same years, while they are mounted inboard of the frame, GM put the shocks dang near straight up and perpendicular to the ground because the leaf rears had no lateral movement.

I can see potential wear issues with this kit, and as mentioned above, I could see how the holes on the lower mount could possibly become wallered out from all the lateral movement. But, with all that said, that would likely take a long ass time, especially since *most* of us probably only drive these beasts a few thousand miles a year to dairy queen and back. Again, with that said, I'd be interested in this kit if I didn't already spend a ton of money on my ECE kit and new shocks... I wouldn't be able to address my ECE adjustable panhard bar mount with this kit either.

*Just trying to defend my fellow engineers from back in the day

*Assuming the bed still fit (and with mods anything will fit, I've seen floors a few inches from the top of a bed) the shock placement on the green truck above is about perfect. The shocks can move freely "side to side" by going up and down through their cycle, no side to side wear.

[67ChevyRedneck]

I researched NASCAR a bit, and they have the best looking set up. The shocks are behind the rear axle, almost straight up and down, BUT they're mounted 90* of how they're typically mounted which essentially eliminates any binding the side to side movement can cause... I'd like to see someone come up with a kit like this for these trucks (again, this is very similar to the shocks on the green truck.)

[GR8-68]

Originally Posted by ck5566

Andy's tires are close as like mine are also, this is what you get when a 12" wide tire is stuffed into there. here is my pics.

What happened to your frame rail there, looks to be a bit twisted

[midniteblues]

Originally Posted by GR8-68

What happened to your frame rail there, looks to be a bit twisted

I'm more curious about the magical thief that ran off with his spare tire even though it was locked up.

Andy,
I guess we do what ever it takes too "get them in there".
And I thought the rears wheels/tires on my Camaro were close.

I too thought the angle on the no limit kits were weird...that's one of the reasons I said about making my own mounts in previous threads you would think with the slight arc the arms travel in they would lean the shocks forward.
Then clearance becomes a issue.

[ck5566]

Originally Posted by GR8-68

What happened to your frame rail there, looks to be a bit twisted

This truck was bought with a Salvaged Title, what you saw there at the frame rail is what Got the trucks Salvage Title. The past owner DID NOT Insure it properly in the first place. **This was my First & Only/Last Salvaged Title I will ever go through "ever".

[ck5566]

Originally Posted by midniteblues

I'm more curious about the magical thief that ran off with his spare tire even though it was locked up.

Andy,
I guess we do what ever it takes too "get them in there".
And I thought the rears wheels/tires on my Camaro were close.

I too thought the angle on the no limit kits were weird...that's one of the reasons I said about making my own mounts in previous threads you would think with the slight arc the arms travel in they would lean the shocks forward.
Then clearance becomes a issue.

WOW nuten gets by you. The tire was in for repair !!!

[Ekliptix]

I'd love to get the top brackets. Already have the lower ones from ECE. Any leads on the top brackets only, before I call No Limits and ask them if they'll sell me the tops only?

[midniteblues]

Originally Posted by ck5566

WOW nuten gets by you. The tire was in for repair !!!

Only on my own projects, overthinking and my brain going 5 steps ahead.
I tend too not see what I'm really doing at the moment. You could say I'm working on that

Some of the people I do work for appreciate that I'm very good at spotting problems, others seem too not like it cause it usually cost them more $.

Why not use the same studs as the front upper mount for the top rear mounts.
Most guys that want this mod are lowered and could probably use front shocks on the rear anyway.
I have a notch and between the notch and frame thickness it should be more stable than the front. I can see the length of the stud might be a issue since the fronts angle outward witch gives the shock body space between it and the frame but theres gotta be a way around that.

The studs are available dang near anywhere.
I dug some new ones out of my stash a long while ago just too see how it would work out....but they been sitting on my bench for about 6 months and my poor 67 still sits snuggled in its cover.....soon

[ck5566]

Originally Posted by midniteblues

Wow Andy,your rear tires sure are close too the inner fender huh.

Signing on too this one too see what the op comes up with, you all know why...

Ck, those are pretty much the standard aftermarket relocators same as ece's relocators.
There is a write up in the fac section on how too make these out of the oe mounts.
If Ya have the tools they are very easy too make from box tube.

Where and how does a person find in the (fac) or faq section about how too make your own out of the oe mounts, I tried it with several "wording ways" but nothing. IN your Public Profile the truck you show looks great with that Sports Bed, its a short bed right. Do you have more of it with some rear views?

[Trevor]

Originally Posted by ck5566

Where and how does a person find in the (fac) or faq section about how too make your own out of the oe mounts, I tried it with several "wording ways" but nothing.

I think this is what you're looking for ck ?;
http://67-72chevytrucks.com/vboard/s...d.php?t=359399

"OE shock relocators" is how I found it.

[Andy4639]

Originally Posted by midniteblues

I'm more curious about the magical thief that ran off with his spare tire even though it was locked up.

Andy,
I guess we do what ever it takes too "get them in there".
And I thought the rears wheels/tires on my Camaro were close.

I too thought the angle on the no limit kits were weird...that's one of the reasons I said about making my own mounts in previous threads you would think with the slight arc the arms travel in they would lean the shocks forward.
Then clearance becomes a issue.

Yea we do for the most part.
I have plenty of room now though. Here is some new pictures just took. Better angle too.
Not sure why the shock is angled but I'll tell you this. My truck rides as good as my 08 Tahoe.