How have you paid for your shop?

[shifty]

Congrats on the progress!

[72 tigger]

Looking forward to seeing it come together

[KrazyRay]

Originally Posted by oldiron

Remember to put down a vapor barrier. Helps to keep the shop dry. My concrete guy pulled mine out stating the concrete wouldn't setup fast enough.

Agreed. 6 mil barrier is a must.

[67ChevyRedneck]

This isn't a fun process.

I finally got the electric company to meet me in person to flag out my relocation. I paid the $960 fee and they should be out next week. (My power line runs down middle of proposed foundation location)

This was after almost begging to get an electrical contractor to come out for 3 weeks to verify my existing panel, if I could tap off of it, or needed a new panel. I showed him everything I'm going to run in the garage and he said my current panel has plenty of capacity (this is actually a large "long run" savings, Duke charges a usage fee for every meter, my home meter is currently $12/mo, I've been told a 2nd meter has a standard fee of $45/mo whether you use any power or not.) Even if it's only the $12/mo again, that's $144/yr just in meter fees, and recently they tried to raise it to $28/mo and thankfully were shot down by the SC energy commission.

I discovered my cable (telephone/internet) is only 4-6" deep I was able to uncover a 10' section in 20 minutes. I'll relocate that one myself once power moves theirs. All my other utilities are on the other side of the driveway.

All my applications/permits are in. I got comments back and resubmitted.

Grading/foundation scheduled to start 2nd/3rd week of July, weather dependent.

I'll be happy once the foundation is done, then the rest is on me and my schedule.

[Palf70Step]

Good to hear you are moving forward.

[Custom 68]

awesome progress Jesse, the first part just getting started is the hardest. Once you have it going it will be much smoother.

[davischevy]

I was born into a construction business and have made my living since 1970 in construction.

Your story so far is typical of a lot of projects. I have learned that when dealing with government and utilities it's best to present your situation with only the necessary information, then listen closely, and ask in the manner the other entity wants it asked.

Once, before cell phones, I needed a phone line run 1/4 mile to job. I went in and asked for phone service to the jobsite. The gal asked how far was it from the nearest phone line, and I told her 1/4 mile. She said she would have to have an engineer come out and measure it and the calculate the exorbitant price.


I said "your kidding, all that just to get a temporary phone?" She says "Oh, you just need a temporary job phone, that won't cost anything?" Go figure.

I'm glad your project is finally moving.

[67ChevyRedneck]

I'm a civil engineer and my day job is "land development", so everything I'm doing isn't foreign to me (except electric, it still baffles me ), but trying to do it for myself without my companies name or our client's names behind it makes it infinitely more difficult.

I will say the help I've received from Greenville county as a homeowner project has been extremely good. I did use my work email, so that probably helps

[davischevy]

Ha, I'm a carpenter that somehow ended up developing some subdivisions but we do more public water and sewer systems than any thing else now.

If your day job is trying to get contractors to fulfill their contract, this shop should be a piece of cake.

It is hard for an individual to get anything done, because there is so much work, contractors and subcontractors tend to cater to those they work with everyday.

RE my contractor joke. We give preference to some engineering firms because they do quality work which in turn makes our lives easier. We help each other through tough spots and they in turn make sure we bid on all their jobs. I'm sure your firm is the same way. Making sure the customer gets a quality job at a fair price.

[67ChevyRedneck]

One of our Clients is one of the largest Fuel Stations in the US. When they pretty much "built out" NC and SC they liked us so much we're doing most of their TX work now along with a couple states I'm not allowed to talk about yet

I don't do much with the actual contractors, aside from RFI's and dealing with problems that arise, we do the design work and deal with our client and municipalities.

[davischevy]

We've done site work and utilities and fuel tanks for several convenience stores and supermarkets in Arkansas and Missouri.

BTW, that's how I paid for my shop.

[67ChevyRedneck]

Things are happening...

[67ChevyRedneck]

As you can see from the slope in the pic, we had to revise the layout some. In order to have 3-4' flat around the outside, I had to cut it down to 28' wide. So it will be 2' narrower, but grow to 52' long. I swear someone made a post about waste, but I'm not seeing it for some reason, but now 28/8= 3.5 and 52/8 =6.5 so should be less "waste" for materials. Truss will be cheaper, but with the extra one, will only save couple hundred.

Ceiling will be 12.5-13', depending on how the floor ends up within the 2 courses of block. Should be 13'.

Drawing isn't totally accurate, I drew the doors as 11', apparently not a common standard, so down to 10'.

I have a better drawing at home with the cars to scale, but they're xref'ed into that drawing, so I couldn't print that one.

Existing garage is on the left. If I remember right, it's 22' wide and 24' deep.

[Ol Blue K20]

Awesome! I hope everything comes together smoothly.

[davischevy]

Why not pour a concrete stem wall to a foot above grade on the right side (looking from front) and rear and maybe along the drive a few feet.


My shop here is 6' underground on the rear side. I put a stem wall all the way around so I could wash it out and not worry about damaging anything.


I have a similar situation to yours at my house, and when I build there I'm going to do a stem wall and backfill to grade. At my house the back wall will be 6 to eight feet underground.

[67ChevyRedneck]

$.

That was actually my original plan.

This was a lot more cost effective. Anything 4' and over needs to be designed by a wall engineer and approved by the county.

After the tree removal, power relocation, grading, and floor/foundation, and driveway I'll be 19K into this before a wall even goes up.

Originally Posted by Ol Blue K20

Awesome! I hope everything comes together smoothly.

Already problems...

The damn phone company ran mine and my neighbors phone lines on my property, so I have to let him know he may be without a phone for a little while. I can't have them come in to fix it until all the grading is done.

[davischevy]

Yeah, the excavation and concrete contractor gets there first so he can get most of the money.

[67ChevyRedneck]

End of the day when I got home.

We watch most of our TV through the internet, so I had to do a redneck repair on the old cable system. Dug up the ends and put some fittings on. It actually worked.

I'm also going to stop "updating" this thread as it no longer has much to do with the title. I'm going to keep the updates coming here:

http://67-72chevytrucks.com/vboard/s...366060&page=22

[Ol Blue K20]

Oops! I'm glad you figured out a temporary repair.