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**Bob B.** · 05-25-2006, 11:31 AM

M was a tandem axle, S was the school bus chassis. BTW- most of the Yenko '69 427 Camaro's were COPO cars, while the others like Baldwin-Motion were dealer installed.

Sweet72 · 05-25-2006, 11:35 AM

Thanks for the info Bob B.

sdmahr · 05-25-2006, 02:50 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mbgmike

I agree. I remember sitting in the dealership trying to buy a new black 73 swb Chevy with a 454 in it. The $4500 price was holding me back. I had a new 72 GTO as trade-in but they wouldn't give me crap for it in trade.

I see trade-in practices haven't changed much in 34 or so years ! !

**pound41** · 05-25-2006, 08:24 PM

My dad order a 72 1/2ton stepside black with a 402/turbo 400 and 411 posi. My grandfather was a coal truck driver that drove Chev/GMC's with the 427's. My dad said he tried every way possible to work a dealer to get a 427. He said many didn't want to order the 402 combo. Because if he bailed they would have a hard time selling that truck. I would like to have a few of them today.

Gray Ghost · 05-25-2006, 08:54 PM

You could get a 454 in a Vega...from Motion Performance [AKA Motion Baldwin]. It was costly, but I bet it was fun!!!

**special-K** · 05-25-2006, 10:23 PM

What about Novas?

**pound41** · 05-25-2006, 10:28 PM

Outside of someone like Baldwin or Nickey I think GM only put them in the Chevelle/Monte Carlo SS454 and I think some of the Kingswood Wagons. The SS454 Monte is the I would like to have w ith F41 package I have passed on a few and they are now getting Expensive. I thnk something like 1300 made give or take a few

Rod · 05-25-2006, 10:34 PM

454 GMC Sprint only.

Rod · 05-25-2006, 10:44 PM

Before someone tries to correct me, I answered a question related to GMC. I know El Camino had 454 also.

Rod · 05-25-2006, 10:48 PM

You can go back to 1970 for 454 in El Camino and Sprints.

Gray Ghost · 05-25-2006, 10:55 PM

Yes Novas were also sold with 454's by Motion, but only by special order. I've never seen one in person, but my buddy has. From the factory they were sold with 396's.

**special-K** · 05-26-2006, 08:02 AM

I was just pointing out that Novas were overlooked in the comment about everything but a Vega could have a 454.

Sweet72 · 05-26-2006, 08:56 AM

My reply was not all inclusive as to which vehicles were fitted with the 454, I was only quoting those listed in the '72 Overhaul Manual. I know they were offered from GM but, Sprint and ElCamino weren't in there for some reason????

Chevrolet4x4s · 05-26-2006, 04:55 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Buffalo Elk

You could get a 454 in a Vega...from Motion Performance [AKA Motion Baldwin]. It was costly, but I bet it was fun!!!

I bet no one would honor treadwear warrantys on them
Shane

Chevrolet4x4s · 05-26-2006, 04:59 PM

.....Aah the days of real cars(and trucks)and cheap gas.
Shane

slamedchevyman · 05-26-2006, 05:17 PM

I have a book called standard catalog of chevy trucks 1918 to 1995. It has a bunch of info on options and production #s. according to it from 1969 through 1972 the only year that had an option of a 454 was on 1971 trucks or it was available on el caminos. Its possible the truck could be a late 71 that was titled as a 72 truck.

55454 · 05-26-2006, 05:51 PM

1970 Largest factory 454 produced, passenger vehicle only, the factory started down sizing after that due to the gas crunch and pollution.

The first consumer offered truck with a 454 was 1973.

I have not seen this written anywhere it is how I remember it. Keep in mind I was only six when I found this out in 1970

As for an L in the VIN this is a 350, at least in the eighties it is.

9footfan · 05-26-2006, 06:34 PM

only thing close were copo trucks. not long ago someone posted pics of a copo 71 or 72 with a 427. very cool truck--i think it is in a museum somewhere.

Longhorn Man · 05-26-2006, 08:03 PM

Yeah but it was never proven. (tye 427 COPO truck)
Like I said, I have quite a bit of lit here... both factory lit, and books written since then.
No mention of a 454 in any pick up... only the Elky, and sprint clone.

Longhorn Man · 05-26-2006, 08:08 PM

In 71 and 72, only the Caprice, Kingswood wagon, Biscayne, bel air, Monte Carlo and Chevelle had an RPO for a 454.

9footfan · 05-26-2006, 08:45 PM

I remember about a year ago someone posting pics and info about that 71-72 copo cheyenne--had 427 badges etc. it was a real truck in a museum. remember a whole thread about that truck. sorry to hijack thread--454 1st year in 73 chevy trucks according to my literature.

Longhorn Man · 05-26-2006, 08:48 PM

No one has seen that truck up close, you can't see any COPO proof, only badges on the fenders. It may well be lagit, and honestly, I think it is, but, I'm more of a believe it when I see it, or see correct lit on it.

**special-K** · 05-26-2006, 09:06 PM

I don`t want to come off nasty but,farmtruckIII.any luck with that info?

beater69 · 05-26-2006, 11:39 PM

Just to further confuse matters... A long time ago (7 years) my dad and I looked at a 71 or so, that claimed to have a LS-6. Without checking numbers we were completely sold but it did have factory looking intake with the holley 4 barrel, not Q-Jet. ok i know that means nothing, its an easy swap. but then it had a weird fender badge. it wasn't just some aftermarket looking stick on and it looked like the same cheap pot metal the real emblems are made out of. the weird badge had something to do with rats, which makes some sense. don't really remember all the details. anyone ever see something like that? we wrote it off as someones little frankestein. side point, it had "side pipes" hanging on it. but they weren't hooked up for real, the real exhaust was piped in just in front of the side pipe exit. pretty cheesy

oh... it was parked it a little town with the owner nowhere to be seen. so we couldn't pick his brain.

Blazer1970 · 05-27-2006, 07:49 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Sweet72

My reply was not all inclusive as to which vehicles were fitted with the 454, I was only quoting those listed in the '72 Overhaul Manual. I know they were offered from GM but, Sprint and ElCamino weren't in there for some reason????

The El Camino and Sprint are Chevelles.

05-25-2006, 11:31 AM	#26
Bob B. Senior Member Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: Los Angeles Posts: 1,308	Re: 72 truck with a 454 from the factory? M was a tandem axle, S was the school bus chassis. BTW- most of the Yenko '69 427 Camaro's were COPO cars, while the others like Baldwin-Motion were dealer installed. __________________ 1967 GMC CM-2500 Camper Cruiser, 351E V-6, NP 435 4 speed, Dana 60, and factory A/C. 2012 GMC K-3500 WT regular cab, 6.0L Vortec, 6L90.

05-25-2006, 11:35 AM	#27
Sweet72 Registered User Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: Alexandria, VA Posts: 1,534	Re: 72 truck with a 454 from the factory? Thanks for the info Bob B. __________________ '72 GMC SWB C1500 Custom, frame-off in progress. 383 SBC, 9:1CR, Comp Cams XE262H, Scat internal balanced crank, Eagle SIR 6" rods, Keith Black dish pistons, Dart Iron Eagle 72/180 heads, Weiand Stealth intake, Stewart stage I water pump, Holley 4bbl vac sec, TH350 with B&M Shift Improver Kit. 12 bolt positraction.

05-25-2006, 08:24 PM	#29
pound41 Registered User Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: Northern Virginia Posts: 1,267	Re: 72 truck with a 454 from the factory? My dad order a 72 1/2ton stepside black with a 402/turbo 400 and 411 posi. My grandfather was a coal truck driver that drove Chev/GMC's with the 427's. My dad said he tried every way possible to work a dealer to get a 427. He said many didn't want to order the 402 combo. Because if he bailed they would have a hard time selling that truck. I would like to have a few of them today.

05-25-2006, 08:54 PM	#30
Gray Ghost Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2004 Location: Terrell, TX Posts: 1,967	Re: 72 truck with a 454 from the factory? You could get a 454 in a Vega...from Motion Performance [AKA Motion Baldwin]. It was costly, but I bet it was fun!!! __________________ Kelly '05 GMC Sierra SLE Z71 Bone stock except for new bed rail caps.

05-25-2006, 10:23 PM	#31
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05-25-2006, 10:28 PM	#32
pound41 Registered User Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: Northern Virginia Posts: 1,267	Re: 72 truck with a 454 from the factory? Outside of someone like Baldwin or Nickey I think GM only put them in the Chevelle/Monte Carlo SS454 and I think some of the Kingswood Wagons. The SS454 Monte is the I would like to have w ith F41 package I have passed on a few and they are now getting Expensive. I thnk something like 1300 made give or take a few

05-25-2006, 10:34 PM	#33
Rod Join Date: Dec 1999 Location: Eastern - Manitoba Canada, Winnipeg Posts: 4,369	Re: 72 truck with a 454 from the factory? 454 GMC Sprint only.

05-25-2006, 10:44 PM	#34
Rod Join Date: Dec 1999 Location: Eastern - Manitoba Canada, Winnipeg Posts: 4,369	Re: 72 truck with a 454 from the factory? Before someone tries to correct me, I answered a question related to GMC. I know El Camino had 454 also.

05-25-2006, 10:48 PM	#35
Rod Join Date: Dec 1999 Location: Eastern - Manitoba Canada, Winnipeg Posts: 4,369	Re: 72 truck with a 454 from the factory? You can go back to 1970 for 454 in El Camino and Sprints.

05-25-2006, 10:55 PM	#36
Gray Ghost Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2004 Location: Terrell, TX Posts: 1,967	Re: 72 truck with a 454 from the factory? Yes Novas were also sold with 454's by Motion, but only by special order. I've never seen one in person, but my buddy has. From the factory they were sold with 396's. __________________ Kelly '05 GMC Sierra SLE Z71 Bone stock except for new bed rail caps.

05-26-2006, 08:02 AM	#37
special-K Special Order Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: Mt Airy, MD Posts: 85,863	Re: 72 truck with a 454 from the factory? I was just pointing out that Novas were overlooked in the comment about everything but a Vega could have a 454. __________________ "BUILDING A BETTER WAY TO SERVE THE USA"......67/72......"The New Breed" GMC '67 C1500 Wideside Super Custom SWB: 327/M22/3.42 posi.........."The '67" (project) GMC '72 K2500 Wideside Sierra Custom Camper: 350/TH350/4.10 Power-Lok..."The '72" (rolling) Tim "Don't call me a redneck. I'm a rough cut country gentleman" R.I.P. ~ East Side Low Life ~ El Jay ~ 72BLUZ ~ Fasteddie69 ~ Ron586 ~ 67ChevyRedneck ~ Grumpy Old Man ~

05-26-2006, 08:56 AM	#38
Sweet72 Registered User Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: Alexandria, VA Posts: 1,534	Re: 72 truck with a 454 from the factory? My reply was not all inclusive as to which vehicles were fitted with the 454, I was only quoting those listed in the '72 Overhaul Manual. I know they were offered from GM but, Sprint and ElCamino weren't in there for some reason???? __________________ '72 GMC SWB C1500 Custom, frame-off in progress. 383 SBC, 9:1CR, Comp Cams XE262H, Scat internal balanced crank, Eagle SIR 6" rods, Keith Black dish pistons, Dart Iron Eagle 72/180 heads, Weiand Stealth intake, Stewart stage I water pump, Holley 4bbl vac sec, TH350 with B&M Shift Improver Kit. 12 bolt positraction.

05-26-2006, 04:59 PM	#40
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05-26-2006, 05:17 PM	#41
slamedchevyman Registered User Join Date: May 2006 Location: cali Posts: 14	Re: 72 truck with a 454 from the factory? I have a book called standard catalog of chevy trucks 1918 to 1995. It has a bunch of info on options and production #s. according to it from 1969 through 1972 the only year that had an option of a 454 was on 1971 trucks or it was available on el caminos. Its possible the truck could be a late 71 that was titled as a 72 truck.

05-26-2006, 05:51 PM	#42
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05-26-2006, 06:34 PM	#43
9footfan get up! stand up! Join Date: Apr 2004 Location: austin,tx Posts: 345	Re: 72 truck with a 454 from the factory? only thing close were copo trucks. not long ago someone posted pics of a copo 71 or 72 with a 427. very cool truck--i think it is in a museum somewhere. __________________ 9FT STEPSIDE CLUB 40 1-1/2 ton stake 67 c30 disassembled & for sale 70 gmc 3500 canadian 9 foot "fenderside" pickup 06 silverado 71 vet enjoyed by my retired father wtb-67 chevy 1 ton 9ft stepside-in perfect condition

05-26-2006, 08:03 PM	#44
Longhorn Man its all about the +6 inches Join Date: Jan 2001 Location: Hilliard Ohio Posts: 2,693	Re: 72 truck with a 454 from the factory? Yeah but it was never proven. (tye 427 COPO truck) Like I said, I have quite a bit of lit here... both factory lit, and books written since then. No mention of a 454 in any pick up... only the Elky, and sprint clone.

05-26-2006, 08:08 PM	#45
Longhorn Man its all about the +6 inches Join Date: Jan 2001 Location: Hilliard Ohio Posts: 2,693	Re: 72 truck with a 454 from the factory? In 71 and 72, only the Caprice, Kingswood wagon, Biscayne, bel air, Monte Carlo and Chevelle had an RPO for a 454.

05-26-2006, 08:45 PM	#46
9footfan get up! stand up! Join Date: Apr 2004 Location: austin,tx Posts: 345	Re: 72 truck with a 454 from the factory? I remember about a year ago someone posting pics and info about that 71-72 copo cheyenne--had 427 badges etc. it was a real truck in a museum. remember a whole thread about that truck. sorry to hijack thread--454 1st year in 73 chevy trucks according to my literature. __________________ 9FT STEPSIDE CLUB 40 1-1/2 ton stake 67 c30 disassembled & for sale 70 gmc 3500 canadian 9 foot "fenderside" pickup 06 silverado 71 vet enjoyed by my retired father wtb-67 chevy 1 ton 9ft stepside-in perfect condition

05-26-2006, 08:48 PM	#47
Longhorn Man its all about the +6 inches Join Date: Jan 2001 Location: Hilliard Ohio Posts: 2,693	Re: 72 truck with a 454 from the factory? No one has seen that truck up close, you can't see any COPO proof, only badges on the fenders. It may well be lagit, and honestly, I think it is, but, I'm more of a believe it when I see it, or see correct lit on it.

05-26-2006, 09:06 PM	#48
special-K Special Order Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: Mt Airy, MD Posts: 85,863	Re: 72 truck with a 454 from the factory? I don`t want to come off nasty but,farmtruckIII.any luck with that info? __________________ "BUILDING A BETTER WAY TO SERVE THE USA"......67/72......"The New Breed" GMC '67 C1500 Wideside Super Custom SWB: 327/M22/3.42 posi.........."The '67" (project) GMC '72 K2500 Wideside Sierra Custom Camper: 350/TH350/4.10 Power-Lok..."The '72" (rolling) Tim "Don't call me a redneck. I'm a rough cut country gentleman" R.I.P. ~ East Side Low Life ~ El Jay ~ 72BLUZ ~ Fasteddie69 ~ Ron586 ~ 67ChevyRedneck ~ Grumpy Old Man ~

05-26-2006, 11:39 PM	#49
beater69 Sinister Exaggerator Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: Eugene, Oregon Posts: 111	Re: 72 truck with a 454 from the factory? Just to further confuse matters... A long time ago (7 years) my dad and I looked at a 71 or so, that claimed to have a LS-6. Without checking numbers we were completely sold but it did have factory looking intake with the holley 4 barrel, not Q-Jet. ok i know that means nothing, its an easy swap. but then it had a weird fender badge. it wasn't just some aftermarket looking stick on and it looked like the same cheap pot metal the real emblems are made out of. the weird badge had something to do with rats, which makes some sense. don't really remember all the details. anyone ever see something like that? we wrote it off as someones little frankestein. side point, it had "side pipes" hanging on it. but they weren't hooked up for real, the real exhaust was piped in just in front of the side pipe exit. pretty cheesy oh... it was parked it a little town with the owner nowhere to be seen. so we couldn't pick his brain.

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