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**Chevy Fleetside** · 10-26-2019, 08:18 PM

I figured it was time to rebuild the engine in my truck as it was leaking and burning a lot of oil, not to mention some knocking sounds. It is at the machine shop right now. I was trying to get engine color. I thought it was the green color but come to find it is the blue/gray color. Here are some pictures for you enjoyment as I know you guys like pictures. I will have some after pictures when the time comes. There was no bearing material on the rods except for the #4 hole. I could use the lifters at bowls.

**Chevy Fleetside** · 10-26-2019, 08:21 PM

More. If anyone knows where I can get the engine color I would love for you to pass that info along to me. As it is I am going to take the oil pan with me to the paint store and see what they can do.

SkinnyG · 10-26-2019, 09:07 PM

Consider springing for a retrofit roller cam. Pricey, but you don't need to stress over the level of zinc/zddp in your oil.

I haven't yet found what the proper color is, though I understand many use Ford Gray (which is what I used on the motor in my '61).

If you can polish up some of the original color, you can probably have your local paint shop match it.

**Steeveedee** · 10-26-2019, 10:35 PM

Looks like you got your money's worth out of that bad boy!

Those lifters don't have holes in the bottoms, in spite of that amount of dishing. Amazing.

AcampoDave · 10-26-2019, 10:55 PM

Here's what they look like in Ford gray. I also went with a gloss clear over the gray which was also made for engines.

**Getter-Done** · 10-26-2019, 11:39 PM

Here is an interesting article about the paint color story.
Looks like they may sell paint that is a close match.

Link:https://www.fillingstation.com/articles/grayengine.htm

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Mike1965 · 10-27-2019, 03:10 AM

I used this paint https://www.hirschauto.com/ENGINE-EN...RT/CHV%20GREY/ for my 283 in my 65' C20, it looks better in person than the picture. It is a close match to the original.

**Chevy Fleetside** · 10-27-2019, 10:09 AM

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Originally Posted by Mike1965

I used this paint https://www.hirschauto.com/ENGINE-EN...RT/CHV%20GREY/ for my 283 in my 65' C20, it looks better in person than the picture. It is a close match to the original.

I am guessing it is the Chevrolet gray 29-52. The link brings up all the color choices.

**Chevy Fleetside** · 10-27-2019, 10:19 AM

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Originally Posted by Steeveedee

Looks like you got your money's worth out of that bad boy!

Those lifters don't have holes in the bottoms, in spite of that amount of dishing. Amazing.

You should see the Cam.

**jayoldschool** · 10-27-2019, 12:44 PM

Looking at that timing setup... this thing skipped a few oil changes over its life...

**Chevy Fleetside** · 10-27-2019, 01:12 PM

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Originally Posted by jayoldschool

Looking at that timing setup... this thing skipped a few oil changes over its life...

Just a few.

I have had it for I believe 4 years now. Mileage unknown. Speedo broke at 54999.

Mike1965 · 10-27-2019, 02:39 PM

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Originally Posted by Chevy Fleetside

I am guessing it is the Chevrolet gray 29-52. The link brings up all the color choices.

Yup that's the color I used and it looks really nice.

vince1 · 10-27-2019, 03:20 PM

Did that speedometer break at 154999 or 254999?

That is more worn out than I have ever seen before.

**Chevy Fleetside** · 10-27-2019, 11:13 PM

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Originally Posted by vince1

Did that speedometer break at 154999 or 254999?

That is more worn out than I have ever seen before.

I don't really know.

**60-66** · 10-28-2019, 09:10 AM

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Originally Posted by Mike1965

I used this paint https://www.hirschauto.com/ENGINE-EN...RT/CHV%20GREY/ for my 283 in my 65' C20, it looks better in person than the picture. It is a close match to the original.

That's a MUCH closer color to the factory grey , than the Ford color. Looks great !

Mike1965 · 10-28-2019, 01:42 PM

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Originally Posted by 60-66

That's a MUCH closer color to the factory grey , than the Ford color. Looks great !

Thanks! I've been meaning to make a build thread on the truck that engine is going in. Glad you like the color, it looks way better in person.

**Chevy Fleetside** · 10-29-2019, 12:21 PM

I stopped by an autobody paint store yesterday and found a close match to my oil pan color. I will post pictures after I paint. That would be in about a week or 2.

**G8rN@te61** · 10-30-2019, 06:04 AM

I assume a quart was enough to cover your engine?

**Chevy Fleetside** · 11-03-2019, 09:30 PM

I just bought one arousal can. Should be enough as long as I don't waste it. If I want to do a separate quart with hardener, it will be $101.

**Steeveedee** · 11-03-2019, 10:43 PM

I think that it will take two cans. In my experience, one won't quite make it. BUT, the gray may be a real high-hide color, and it may only take one can. I know that the Moly Orange usually took a little less than two cans to cover a V-8 engine. Maybe I was just happy with the fumes?

**Chevy Fleetside** · 11-04-2019, 12:43 AM

I bought one just in case I didn't like the color. I will be using black Epoxy Primer so that will help a lot.

**Chevy Fleetside** · 11-11-2019, 02:52 PM

Got my short block back. A friend has a set of heads already done but I'm still waiting for them. My other dilemma is whether to put a 700r4 automatic transmission I have or back to the 3 on the tree which is also an overdrive but not original to the truck. With an auto my son could drive it but I do plan on teaching him how to drive a stick.

geezer#99 · 11-11-2019, 04:29 PM

Nice shiny parts!
What heads are you gonna use?
What valve sizes?
How many CC’s?

**Chevy Fleetside** · 11-11-2019, 06:20 PM

stock 283 heads. Not looking for a lot of HP just a nice running truck.

geezer#99 · 11-11-2019, 06:32 PM

All is good!
Just curious!
Some people bolt on higher cc heads without a thought and loose a bunch of compression and power.

10-26-2019, 08:18 PM	#1
Chevy Fleetside Registered User Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: San Francisco Posts: 4,775	Rebuilding Engine I figured it was time to rebuild the engine in my truck as it was leaking and burning a lot of oil, not to mention some knocking sounds. It is at the machine shop right now. I was trying to get engine color. I thought it was the green color but come to find it is the blue/gray color. Here are some pictures for you enjoyment as I know you guys like pictures. I will have some after pictures when the time comes. There was no bearing material on the rods except for the #4 hole. I could use the lifters at bowls. Attached Images __________________ "A man and his truck, what a beautiful thing" 65 Short Fleetside BBC 65 Long Fleetside 283 3 on the tree for now. my build thread http://www.67-72chevytrucks.com/vboa...d.php?t=259536

10-26-2019, 08:21 PM	#2
Chevy Fleetside Registered User Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: San Francisco Posts: 4,775	Re: Rebuilding Engine More. If anyone knows where I can get the engine color I would love for you to pass that info along to me. As it is I am going to take the oil pan with me to the paint store and see what they can do. Attached Images __________________ "A man and his truck, what a beautiful thing" 65 Short Fleetside BBC 65 Long Fleetside 283 3 on the tree for now. my build thread http://www.67-72chevytrucks.com/vboa...d.php?t=259536

10-26-2019, 09:07 PM	#3
SkinnyG Registered User Join Date: Feb 2012 Location: Beautiful BC, Canada, eh?! Posts: 2,172	Re: Rebuilding Engine Consider springing for a retrofit roller cam. Pricey, but you don't need to stress over the level of zinc/zddp in your oil. I haven't yet found what the proper color is, though I understand many use Ford Gray (which is what I used on the motor in my '61). If you can polish up some of the original color, you can probably have your local paint shop match it. __________________ 1961 Apache: "Grabber Orange" Shortboxed, pancake, step-notch, air-ride, boosted-LS 1977 Silverado: Shortboxed & dropped, potato-potato V8 Pontiac Firefly (Chevy Sprint): The ultimate engine swap: 5.7L in a 1.0L bag Lotus Super 7 Replica: Scratch-built street-legal rollerskate

10-26-2019, 10:55 PM	#5
AcampoDave Registered User Join Date: Feb 2013 Location: central California Posts: 2,726	Re: Rebuilding Engine Here's what they look like in Ford gray. I also went with a gloss clear over the gray which was also made for engines. Attached Images

10-26-2019, 11:39 PM	#6
Getter-Done Senior Member Join Date: Dec 2009 Location: TN. Posts: 7,701	Re: Rebuilding Engine Here is an interesting article about the paint color story. Looks like they may sell paint that is a close match. Link:https://www.fillingstation.com/articles/grayengine.htm . __________________ ________________________________________________________________________________________ ____________________________________________ 84 Chevy K-20 63 Impala (my high school car) http://67-72chevytrucks.com/vboard/s...Crew Cab Build

10-26-2019, 10:35 PM	#4
Steeveedee Who Changed This? Join Date: Jan 2013 Location: Simi Valley, CA Posts: 10,081	Re: Rebuilding Engine Looks like you got your money's worth out of that bad boy! Those lifters don't have holes in the bottoms, in spite of that amount of dishing. Amazing. __________________ ~Steven '70 Chevy 3/4T Longhorn CST 402/400/3.56 Custom Camper Simi Valley, CA

10-27-2019, 03:10 AM	#7
Mike1965 Registered User Join Date: Nov 2018 Location: Mesa, AZ Posts: 54	Re: Rebuilding Engine I used this paint https://www.hirschauto.com/ENGINE-EN...RT/CHV%20GREY/ for my 283 in my 65' C20, it looks better in person than the picture. It is a close match to the original. Attached Images

10-27-2019, 12:44 PM	#10
jayoldschool Moderator Join Date: Dec 2012 Location: ON, Canada Posts: 2,150	Re: Rebuilding Engine Looking at that timing setup... this thing skipped a few oil changes over its life...

10-27-2019, 03:20 PM	#13
vince1 Registered User Join Date: Jan 2013 Location: Calgary Alberta Posts: 1,164	Re: Rebuilding Engine Did that speedometer break at 154999 or 254999? That is more worn out than I have ever seen before.

10-29-2019, 12:21 PM	#17
Chevy Fleetside Registered User Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: San Francisco Posts: 4,775	Re: Rebuilding Engine I stopped by an autobody paint store yesterday and found a close match to my oil pan color. I will post pictures after I paint. That would be in about a week or 2. __________________ "A man and his truck, what a beautiful thing" 65 Short Fleetside BBC 65 Long Fleetside 283 3 on the tree for now. my build thread http://www.67-72chevytrucks.com/vboa...d.php?t=259536

10-30-2019, 06:04 AM	#18
G8rN@te61 Senior Member Join Date: Oct 2017 Location: Fort Mill, SC Posts: 203	Re: Rebuilding Engine I assume a quart was enough to cover your engine?

11-03-2019, 09:30 PM	#19
Chevy Fleetside Registered User Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: San Francisco Posts: 4,775	Re: Rebuilding Engine I just bought one arousal can. Should be enough as long as I don't waste it. If I want to do a separate quart with hardener, it will be $101. __________________ "A man and his truck, what a beautiful thing" 65 Short Fleetside BBC 65 Long Fleetside 283 3 on the tree for now. my build thread http://www.67-72chevytrucks.com/vboa...d.php?t=259536

11-03-2019, 10:43 PM	#20
Steeveedee Who Changed This? Join Date: Jan 2013 Location: Simi Valley, CA Posts: 10,081	Re: Rebuilding Engine I think that it will take two cans. In my experience, one won't quite make it. BUT, the gray may be a real high-hide color, and it may only take one can. I know that the Moly Orange usually took a little less than two cans to cover a V-8 engine. Maybe I was just happy with the fumes? __________________ ~Steven '70 Chevy 3/4T Longhorn CST 402/400/3.56 Custom Camper Simi Valley, CA

11-04-2019, 12:43 AM	#21
Chevy Fleetside Registered User Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: San Francisco Posts: 4,775	Re: Rebuilding Engine I bought one just in case I didn't like the color. I will be using black Epoxy Primer so that will help a lot. __________________ "A man and his truck, what a beautiful thing" 65 Short Fleetside BBC 65 Long Fleetside 283 3 on the tree for now. my build thread http://www.67-72chevytrucks.com/vboa...d.php?t=259536

11-11-2019, 02:52 PM	#22
Chevy Fleetside Registered User Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: San Francisco Posts: 4,775	Re: Rebuilding Engine Got my short block back. A friend has a set of heads already done but I'm still waiting for them. My other dilemma is whether to put a 700r4 automatic transmission I have or back to the 3 on the tree which is also an overdrive but not original to the truck. With an auto my son could drive it but I do plan on teaching him how to drive a stick. Attached Images __________________ "A man and his truck, what a beautiful thing" 65 Short Fleetside BBC 65 Long Fleetside 283 3 on the tree for now. my build thread http://www.67-72chevytrucks.com/vboa...d.php?t=259536



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11-11-2019, 04:29 PM	#23
geezer#99 Registered User Join Date: Aug 2009 Location: Bowser Posts: 13,510	Re: Rebuilding Engine Nice shiny parts! What heads are you gonna use? What valve sizes? How many CC’s?

11-11-2019, 06:20 PM	#24
Chevy Fleetside Registered User Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: San Francisco Posts: 4,775	Re: Rebuilding Engine stock 283 heads. Not looking for a lot of HP just a nice running truck. __________________ "A man and his truck, what a beautiful thing" 65 Short Fleetside BBC 65 Long Fleetside 283 3 on the tree for now. my build thread http://www.67-72chevytrucks.com/vboa...d.php?t=259536

11-11-2019, 06:32 PM	#25
geezer#99 Registered User Join Date: Aug 2009 Location: Bowser Posts: 13,510	Re: Rebuilding Engine All is good! Just curious! Some people bolt on higher cc heads without a thought and loose a bunch of compression and power.

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