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Old 09-29-2011, 09:12 PM   #1
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Kingpins discontinued for my Dana 60????!!!

So I tried buying kingpins for my Squarebody Crewcab 4x4 with a Dana 60. The truck is a 1990 Chev V3500.

I dropped by my local family owned parts supplier and was told that they didn't carry them. So I went to Napa who told me the same thing. So I call a GM dealer who called it a "socket" and said it was discontinued. So I called Partsource who also didn't carry them.

So I went to NAPAONLINE.COM and only found a kingpin BUSHING kit, https://www.napaonline.com/Catalog/R...+50014+2014047

I've never done kingpins before, is it common to only need the bushing?

Am I asking for the wrong thing? Are these considered to be ball joints?
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Re: Kingpins discontinued for my Dana 60????!!!

No, they're certainly called kingpins. However, some do mistakenly call them ball joints.
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Re: Kingpins discontinued for my Dana 60????!!!

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No, they're certainly called kingpins. However, some do mistakenly call them ball joints.
Ok thanks.
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Re: Kingpins discontinued for my Dana 60????!!!

Do you have part numbers? I tried Rockauto.com and they have the same bushing kit. It is under "steering" as opposed to "suspension".
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Do you have part numbers? I tried Rockauto.com and they have the same bushing kit. It is under "steering" as opposed to "suspension".
Ok cool. So I checked out the site. Now I'm wondering if it's the knuckle bearing or the bushing or both that I need, or if there's still something missing. It's kinda hard to tell without a pic of the part. Maybe I can find a diagram somewhere.
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Ok cool. So I checked out the site. Now I'm wondering if it's the knuckle bearing or the bushing or both that I need, or if there's still something missing. It's kinda hard to tell without a pic of the part. Maybe I can find a diagram somewhere.
Looky here...

http://www.pirate4x4.com/tech/billav...pin/index.html
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Re: Kingpins discontinued for my Dana 60????!!!

Go to Fleet Pride, that is where I got all my 60 stuff....
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Go to Fleet Pride, that is where I got all my 60 stuff....
I clicked on kingpin in the index, and it gave me parts for a tractor trailer 5th wheel.. haha
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Re: Kingpins discontinued for my Dana 60????!!!

Edit: so I guess there where pics of the bearing. I'm guessing there's more to that to fix the major amount of play that I have in both the upper and lower kingpins..
Oh, and I forgot to get a part number from any of the parts guys today.
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Re: Kingpins discontinued for my Dana 60????!!!

SWEET Awesome links! Thanks, that will help alot. Do I have to pull the axle to get them out???
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Re: Kingpins discontinued for my Dana 60????!!!

Here are a few links, hopefully they help...

http://compare.ebay.com/like/2304918...=sbar&_lwgsi=y

http://www.riversidegear.com/dana-60...odge-ford.html

http://www.pirate4x4.com/tech/billav...pin/index.html
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Re: Kingpins discontinued for my Dana 60????!!!

I've never done a Dana 60, but yes, you will need access to them with the axles removed, but I wouldn't sweat that. It will give you an opportunity to replace the inner axle seals, which you had BETTER do at the same time.

Now is a good time to go through all the seals and bearings.
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I've never done a Dana 60, but yes, you will need access to them with the axles removed, but I wouldn't sweat that. It will give you an opportunity to replace the inner axle seals, which you had BETTER do at the same time.

Now is a good time to go through all the seals and bearings.
Gotta love a snowball project!! haha Thanks for the advise. I'll do it all while I have it apart.
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Re: Kingpins discontinued for my Dana 60????!!!

OK man, i just did mine, check it out. It is VERY common only to need the bushing in the top and not the whole Kingpin. You do not have to remove the axles, or even the brakes to do the top. Just take the 4 bolts out of the cap and remove the white bushing. SUPER simple. I did replace the Kingpin while I had mine apart because, well, i figured might as well. You will need a big ass 7/8 allen wrench to remove the kingpin itself. i have one you can borrow if you pay shipping. But theyre not too expensive. I used the 7/8 allen wrench and a jack handle cheater bar. The bottom has a bearing, not a kingpin. You can remove the lower cap, replace the bearing and reinstall. You dont NEED to replace the race unless its rough, pitted, etc... but again, I figured might as well.

I got my kingpin rebuild kits from Off Road Design.
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OK man, i just did mine, check it out. It is VERY common only to need the bushing in the top and not the whole Kingpin. You do not have to remove the axles, or even the brakes to do the top. Just take the 4 bolts out of the cap and remove the white bushing. SUPER simple. I did replace the Kingpin while I had mine apart because, well, i figured might as well. You will need a big ass 7/8 allen wrench to remove the kingpin itself. i have one you can borrow if you pay shipping. But theyre not too expensive. I used the 7/8 allen wrench and a jack handle cheater bar. The bottom has a bearing, not a kingpin. You can remove the lower cap, replace the bearing and reinstall. You dont NEED to replace the race unless its rough, pitted, etc... but again, I figured might as well.

I got my kingpin rebuild kits from Off Road Design.
Very good info, thank you very much! I'll see if I can find a 7/8 allen locally, but thanks for the offer.
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Very good info, thank you very much! I'll see if I can find a 7/8 allen locally, but thanks for the offer.
More often than not, you are going to need a torch to heat up the C that it threads into. They can be REALLY stuck in there!
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Re: Kingpins discontinued for my Dana 60????!!!

Try these: http://www.wfoconcepts.com/pr/Dana-6...3164/3172/3435

They're from WFO Concepts - the shop building my truck. Should work for ya!
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Try these: http://www.wfoconcepts.com/pr/Dana-6...3164/3172/3435

They're from WFO Concepts - the shop building my truck. Should work for ya!
Cool thanks! I'll use them if I can't find any locally.. Still going to dig around town a little more.
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I was looking at my recepits last night, I actually got mine from WFO as well. Same brand and all.
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Sorry, my hands were too dirty for the camera! lol.. The links that were given have lots of pics..
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Glad it was an easy repair. Like I said, its usually just the bushing!
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Glad it was an easy repair. Like I said, its usually just the bushing!
This is the first time I've done any front end work on a Dana 60, so it was all new to me. I thought the king pin assembly was going to be all replaced as one piece like a ball joint, which is why I was trying to order more parts than I needed before I ripped it apart. I just wanted to have all my parts ready before I took it apart.. It was easier than I thought it would be for sure!
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"coholiquidation.com" has bushings for $2 for a pair. They still have 111 available, Ron
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