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Old 09-12-2011, 04:13 PM   #1
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Black wood beds!!!! UPDATED with pics

I did a search and found some beds with some stained and painted wood done in black. I remember seeing a red truck with some black wood and red strips (might have been the 67-72 section). Looked sweet.
Anyone have some pics they can share of the bed wood done in black?

I did a couple samples over some test red wood, and they came out 'all right'. One piece I put to much black on I think.

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Old 09-12-2011, 04:39 PM   #2
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I'll have some next week...I treated with linseed oil and lamp black as orginal....time will tell
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Old 09-12-2011, 04:52 PM   #4
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theastronaut build thread. Look at post #28
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brokenspoke lol
The current International Agency for Research on Cancer (IARC) evaluation is that, "Carbon black is possibly carcinogenic to humans (Group 2B)". Short-term exposure to high concentrations of carbon black dust may produce discomfort to the upper respiratory tract, through mechanical irritation.
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I'll have some next week...I treated with linseed oil and lamp black as orginal....time will tell
These beds were painted. The lamp black and linseed oil is from the "olden days". Linseed oil itself is known to absorb water and should not be considered a sealer. I did a beautiful bed in mahogany years ago and was constantly "feeding" the finish with linseed oil. The upside is it never peels. The downside is it gets dirty/gummy after awhile and never really seals the wood.
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theastronaut build thread. Look at post #28
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brokenspoke lol
The current International Agency for Research on Cancer (IARC) evaluation is that, "Carbon black is possibly carcinogenic to humans (Group 2B)". Short-term exposure to high concentrations of carbon black dust may produce discomfort to the upper respiratory tract, through mechanical irritation.
I used liquid lamp black.....which is used as a tint in paints...
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Old 09-12-2011, 06:21 PM   #7
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I used POR 15 satin black 3 coats with a black satin enamel over coat 2 coats for uv protection........ read the mar-k test results, used pine wood and you cannot tell what it is saved so much money that I bought polished SS strips and bolts.....argggg web site where I store mypictures is down will post pics later. Kieth
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Here's a few more pics of the wood floor for the '65 I restored. Used Benjamin Moore Fresh Start Primer and their Exterior Low Gloss Black Enamel/Latex paint. Thinned it with Floetrol so it would lay out better, and sprayed it with my Sata KLC RP primer gun (2.5 tip).

Primed, grain raised up, needed lots of sanding. Brushed the primer on for the first coat.



Sanded with 80 grit on a 6" DA sander.



Reprimed but sprayed it this time, lightly sanded with 180 grit on the DA, just enough to remove the orange peel from the primer, not smoothing any of the wood's grain though.



Painted, two coats of Ben Moore's Low Gloss Exterior Latex/Enamel thinned with Floetrol.









Here's a pic from an assembly line showing the painted wood floor, with a little gloss showing

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Old 09-12-2011, 06:35 PM   #9
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Oh yeah, forgot to mention that spray furninture polish (I used the lemon scented Walmart brand stuff in the yellow can ) works great to keep the bed floor looking like new. Darkens it up and adds a little more sheen, great for a quick detail before a car show. Works good on the satin interior paint as well.
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Re: Black wood beds!!!! Pics Please

Thanks for all the replies.
Looks like me and theastronaut were doing test panels at the same time!!! I came up with about the same results. After the second coat, I did about 2-3 more coats and got it black, but I think it was 'too black'.

Sounds like we are looking for about the same effect. black, but able to see the grain. not gloss, but a nice satin look.
I do like the 'dye' idea though. may have to check that out.
I also wouldn't mind getting that 'candy' black look (still see the grain) and clearcoat with automotive clear with a flattening agent in it (as I did on my black areas on the truck). Clearcoat, resand and reclear so it's flat, but yet you can still see the grain through the black/clear.

I read your build thread theastronaut, got lot's going on. Sounds like "Ron" know his stuff about stains, dye's wood.... (has some nice stuff).

I should have mentioned I went with Oak. It's on the way from Mar-K. I'm going with the hidden bolt strips and painting them the same olive green as the truck.

Nice scans aerotruk63

Looking forward to seeing your pics brokenspoke
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Great minds think alike! I'm going to try dying the wood (and sanding it better!) next and see how that works out. Might get to try it tomorrow night, but if not definitly sometime this week. I'll post the results here. Great looking truck Taz!!
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taz- i think the green with black wood would look really nice! i seen you video on youtube of the motor sounds good, may need to stock up on some back tires, lol!!
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I was told on another forum that they had a heavy kraft paper on top of the wood for protection during shipping and that it was under the bed side rub rails and inner fenders. When you remove the wood along these area's that you should find remenants of that paper. The factory photo contradicts this information.
Additionally that the finish was applied after the floor was assembled and that the finish was not found under the rub rails. More unanswered questions.

Looks like the cowl extensions are missing in the factory photo.

theastronaut may I ask what year that factory photo's from? Do you have the original or found it on line?
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Here's a few more pics of the wood floor for the '65 I restored. Used Benjamin Moore Fresh Start Primer and their Exterior Low Gloss Black Enamel/Latex paint. Thinned it with Floetrol so it would lay out better, and sprayed it with my Sata KLC RP primer gun (2.5 tip).

Primed, grain raised up, needed lots of sanding. Brushed the primer on for the first coat.



Sanded with 80 grit on a 6" DA sander.



Reprimed but sprayed it this time, lightly sanded with 180 grit on the DA, just enough to remove the orange peel from the primer, not smoothing any of the wood's grain though.



Painted, two coats of Ben Moore's Low Gloss Exterior Latex/Enamel thinned with Floetrol.









Here's a pic from an assembly line showing the painted wood floor, with a little gloss showing

that looks nice
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Additionally that the finish was applied after the floor was assembled and that the finish was not found under the rub rails. More unanswered questions.

Looks like the cowl extensions are missing in the factory photo.

theastronaut may I ask what year that factory photo's from? Do you have the original or found it on line?
The pic is from 62-63 judging from the hood and wrap-around windshield. I believe the wood strips and planks on the '65 I restored were painted assembled, but that could have been done at a later date.

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here ya go! Doesn't look as cherry as some of the purdy ones above - WOW those are nice!
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jocko nice looking side rails.
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Here is my 66 gmc bed while installing .......Kieth

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jocko nice looking side rails.
thanks aero - ironically, since I'm not a big fan of them, I've since removed them. And they left some "nice" screw holes in the bed... Middle ones will be pretty simple to fill, but the ones near the stake pockets won't be easy to get behind for brass backing while welding, etc. May have to chop up my brass backing to be able to get in there. But that's for another day.

I do plan on listing the rails for sale in the near future, either here or on ebay or something like that.

They are nice, and they are older stuff, so they looked appropriate on the truck, but I just wasn't a fan. Personal preference, that's all. I DO like these same rails with the shorter stantions that came with some of em, mine are pretty tall.
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Sharp looking trucks everyone!!!
Like the black bed wood. Have to figure out exactly how I'm going to do it though.
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Like the black bed wood. Have to figure out exactly how I'm going to do it though.

We actually used chasis saver satin black about $29.00 per quart or 94.00 per gallon, We bought #2 pine ($56.00) from a local supplier who liked old trucks and he let us cherry pick a brand new shipment of wood so we got low quality price and high quality boards, we cut the boards to width and then dido bladed the edges (Mar-k has the info available on their website) then sand the heck out of the boards, then if you would spray the chasis saver frame paint (about 3 coats they just look great and really resemble steel because of the finish...) people do not realize they are wood. Then just spray a couple of coats of enamel flat black (with uv inhibiters and you will be good to go. Kieth
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Here's what I came up with last night...



Thinking about trying it with a coat of honey/goldish stain first (to compliment my paint color) then topping that with black stain. I still haven't found any black aniline dye locally so I've yet to try that. I may also try tinting the clear coat with black paint to darken the finish some more. Will post back with more results later.
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