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mrein3 · 02-17-2009, 01:25 PM

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Originally Posted by WIDESIDE72

A van doesn't use an intermediate shaft like a truck. It just uses a longer end. (It is hard to describe, sorry I do not have pics.) Whenever the shaft is driven in to make the van column short enough to use with the truck intermediate shaft, it takes away the "collapse area" you would normally have if you were in a collision. It does not have to be this way, though. I have used a couple of van columns in trucks, and took the inner shaft out and cut it off with a band saw so that I would still have the collapse area. I am sure someone on here has pics to demonstrate the length difference.

Reason number one why I don't use a modified van column in my truck. Safety has come a long way in passenger vehicles. One of the first steps was to take the spear of a steering column and make it collapsible. Then came padded dashes and seatbelts.

WHEN your chest hits your steering column in a bad front ender, you want that sucker to push in, not stand tall.

ERASER5 · 02-17-2009, 02:26 PM

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Originally Posted by fine69

Heck, i been brain dead for years. Ain't stopped me yet.

If that is true, what political office do you hold? Or are you a lawyer?

bestchevyfan · 02-17-2009, 03:07 PM

Thats a great find. Got some red ones the same way. Also got some black ones nos in box. Looking to find something to put them in. Later,buddy

MickMc · 02-17-2009, 06:03 PM

OH

I did cut the inner shaft down in length.

And I made sure there as some room for the shaft to collapse, just in case.

And my column is pressed all the way to the dash too.

Now to find a good way to mount seat belts...

Mick

**El Jay** · 02-17-2009, 06:26 PM

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Originally Posted by Stock72c10

It is funny, we are not supposed to use junkyard belts because they "might" have been in a crash, yet every time I have wrecked a car the body shop never replaced the belts (I have wrecked a few in my time). Is it really an issue, and if it is should there be a law mandating the replacement of all seatbelts that were in use during an accident?

I don't know about no laws.

But when I was helping my buddy on his race car (building & pitting), the belts had to be re-certified, or replaced, every other season. It may have been every season.
It's been too long, I just don't remember exactly.
But I know they had to be tested & certified. I don't know who did the testing; "Not my job, Man!"

69sixpackbee · 02-17-2009, 06:54 PM

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Originally Posted by leddzepp

.....diminished safety that comes from converting a van tilt column....

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bigsnookmaster · 02-18-2009, 08:16 AM

Not to hi-jack,but. Bestchevyfan, I'd pay you handsomely if you ever want to get off those black ones.Thanks,

**leddzepp** · 02-18-2009, 12:17 PM

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Originally Posted by 69 1/2 Six Pack Bee

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**71blksuper4x4** · 02-19-2009, 07:26 PM

Well, I took the plunge and dyed my belt covers to match my interior. Came out very very nice. Cleaned and scrubbed them very well before using some ppg Medium Blue Poly in my airbrush. Let me know what you guys think. Trevor

71 super · 02-19-2009, 08:09 PM

They turned out very nice great job!

weasel29gm · 02-19-2009, 08:35 PM

Looks like they was never used, 25 yrs ago nobody used em' good find!!!

Down south truckin · 02-19-2009, 08:46 PM

Trevor good find! I am going to agree with special K I've seen more shoulder belts in ambulances than any other kind of truck however I do know where a set of blue ones are in a utility bed 3/4 ton I think it was a fleet truck like ga power or bellsouth phone company. I'm sure there shot the truck has been sitting in the woods for at least 18 years I saw them over 10 years ago and asked how in the heck did you get this truck this deep in the woods.someone stole the doors off the truck before I saw it and it has been sitting open ever since. Mike

72armyswbtruck · 02-19-2009, 09:07 PM

Man, those seatbelts look very nice,
Great score, mind me asking which scrap yard you grabbed them from?

**71blksuper4x4** · 02-19-2009, 09:59 PM

72armyswbtruck- Just got them from a hometown scrapyard that I think is called Osage Salvage, ran by a guy by the name of Dean. Heck of a nice guy. They only have about 3-4 trucks of this vintage in there though. Anything you are looking for, maybe I can help.

Mike, you wouldn't want to pull what's left of those seatbelts for me would ya???

powell72 · 02-20-2009, 07:16 PM

Those look great, I'm really jealous.

spinning wheels · 02-21-2009, 04:59 AM

You were looking for blue seat belts? Don't you guys check flebay?

I sold seven blue GM seatbelts on flebay for $35 plus shipping, a few months back. I think they were from the late 60s or early 70s.

Oh well, next time.

**1970cstblazer** · 02-21-2009, 02:09 PM

Were they shoulder harness belts?

I am willing to be that they were not..

spinning wheels · 02-21-2009, 06:12 PM

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Originally Posted by 1970cstblazer

Were they shoulder harness belts?

I am willing to be that they were not..

some of the first GM shoulder belts were four pieces. Meaning the lap belts were not connected to the shoulder belts. My '70 Z28 has this weird design. Since the trucks already have the bolt holes tapped for the shoulder belts, (at least on my '72), you may be able to use another set of lap belts, as your shoulder belts. But you will have two buckles per passenger, as my '70 Z28 does.
When I went looking for shoulder type seat belts at the junkyards. I was told that, that is one of the first things taken off the trucks.

Then again, all the seatbelts won't save my ass, if I don't get around to bolting down the seats

Down south truckin · 02-22-2009, 04:25 AM

Trevor long story I've thought about just going and getting them but my conscience wont let me even though I know nothing will ever be done with the truck I just can't make myself do it, and the owner would'nt understand how I knew they were there if I asked him about them. Afriend of mine who knew the owner showed me the truck way back and the owner kinda freaked out when my friend told him that the doors were missing back then.I know he has had tons of stuff stole from him over the years he's one of those guys that keeps everthing he has ever had that he thought would be worth anything. next time I see him I may try to bring the truck up and get him to let me look at it then ask him about them,but I'll have to do it before the spring green up because it is deep in the woods.We'll see... Mike

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Originally Posted by 71blksuper4x4

72armyswbtruck- Just got them from a hometown scrapyard that I think is called Osage Salvage, ran by a guy by the name of Dean. Heck of a nice guy. They only have about 3-4 trucks of this vintage in there though. Anything you are looking for, maybe I can help.

Mike, you wouldn't want to pull what's left of those seatbelts for me would ya???

teeitup · 02-22-2009, 10:15 AM

Those turned out NICE Trevor!!!!!!!!! Great find and nice work!!

02-17-2009, 03:07 PM	#28
bestchevyfan Registered User Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: new market, alabama Posts: 1,330	Re: A Long Time Coming: Shoulder Harness found in my town junkyard Thats a great find. Got some red ones the same way. Also got some black ones nos in box. Looking to find something to put them in. Later,buddy

02-17-2009, 06:03 PM	#29
MickMc Registered User Join Date: Feb 2008 Location: Albuquerque Posts: 359	Re: A Long Time Coming: Shoulder Harness found in my town junkyard OH I did cut the inner shaft down in length. And I made sure there as some room for the shaft to collapse, just in case. And my column is pressed all the way to the dash too. Now to find a good way to mount seat belts... Mick

02-18-2009, 08:16 AM	#32
bigsnookmaster Registered User Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: St.Petersburg,Fl Posts: 1,267	Re: A Long Time Coming: Shoulder Harness found in my town junkyard Not to hi-jack,but. Bestchevyfan, I'd pay you handsomely if you ever want to get off those black ones.Thanks, __________________ greg http://community.webshots.com/user/68406Stepside

02-19-2009, 07:26 PM	#34
71blksuper4x4 SWB 4x4 Collector Join Date: Jun 2001 Location: Osage City, KS Posts: 5,148	Re: A Long Time Coming: Shoulder Harness found in my town junkyard Well, I took the plunge and dyed my belt covers to match my interior. Came out very very nice. Cleaned and scrubbed them very well before using some ppg Medium Blue Poly in my airbrush. Let me know what you guys think. Trevor Attached Images __________________ TREVOR 1970 CST swb 4x4 (speedwarning,cruise,tilt,tach,8track, original red shoulder belts,tow hooks) 1972 Jimmy (soon to be Hickey cloned) 1971 Cheyenne Super 4x4 swb (tilt,tach,buckets, original blue shoulder belts,am/fm,cruise,tow hooks, dealer 8 track) 1972 Cheyenne Super K20 4x4 Custom Camper (tilt, tach, am/fm, tow hooks, bed toolbox, aux gas tank 1972 Cheyenne Super Crew Cab K30 4x4 Duramax, Allison, np205, buckets, tow hooks (CURRENT PROJECT) http://67-72chevytrucks.com/vboard/s...d.php?t=624819 1989 V3500 Crew Cab (454tbi, NV4500, np205) 1970 Chevelle SS (LS5 454,th400,8track,buckets,tach) :2004 Jeep Wrangler Rubicon (daily driver) WTB: 1968-70 Cruise Control Lever

02-19-2009, 08:09 PM	#35
71 super Registered User Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: Canton North carolina Posts: 3,075	Re: A Long Time Coming: Shoulder Harness found in my town junkyard They turned out very nice great job! __________________ 67 blue step side- bb 68 gold and white swb cst anniversary 68 custom swb hot rod Ls swap 69 swb cst 6 cylinder/ overdrive 69 black/black cst bb swb 70 orange and white cst Canada built truck swb bb 71 black and white super swb bb 71 red and white super swb 72 green and white super swb 4x4 62 nova wagon 400 series Ls swapped 68 Camaro 327/4 speed- 1 owner, original paint 66 Volkswagen bettle 69 auto stick Volkswagen Beetle

02-19-2009, 08:35 PM	#36
weasel29gm SLOW BUT SURE,BUT CLOSER Join Date: Feb 2002 Location: eleanor wv usa Posts: 3,091	Re: A Long Time Coming: Shoulder Harness found in my town junkyard Looks like they was never used, 25 yrs ago nobody used em' good find!!! __________________ 69 C-10, OWNED 35YRS... 350 over 30, 350 Turbo, 3:73 Posi P/S, P/B Black with red and black int. ''LOVE THESE OLD ''TRUCKS.......

02-19-2009, 08:46 PM	#37
Down south truckin Senior Member Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: Lilburn Georgia Posts: 1,240	Re: A Long Time Coming: Shoulder Harness found in my town junkyard Trevor good find! I am going to agree with special K I've seen more shoulder belts in ambulances than any other kind of truck however I do know where a set of blue ones are in a utility bed 3/4 ton I think it was a fleet truck like ga power or bellsouth phone company. I'm sure there shot the truck has been sitting in the woods for at least 18 years I saw them over 10 years ago and asked how in the heck did you get this truck this deep in the woods.someone stole the doors off the truck before I saw it and it has been sitting open ever since. Mike

02-19-2009, 09:07 PM	#38
72armyswbtruck Registered User Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Idaho Posts: 4,034	Re: A Long Time Coming: Shoulder Harness found in my town junkyard Man, those seatbelts look very nice, Great score, mind me asking which scrap yard you grabbed them from? __________________ "Remember, They can Kill You, but they can't eat You, That's against the law!!!!!!!!!"

02-19-2009, 09:59 PM	#39
71blksuper4x4 SWB 4x4 Collector Join Date: Jun 2001 Location: Osage City, KS Posts: 5,148	Re: A Long Time Coming: Shoulder Harness found in my town junkyard 72armyswbtruck- Just got them from a hometown scrapyard that I think is called Osage Salvage, ran by a guy by the name of Dean. Heck of a nice guy. They only have about 3-4 trucks of this vintage in there though. Anything you are looking for, maybe I can help. Mike, you wouldn't want to pull what's left of those seatbelts for me would ya??? __________________ TREVOR 1970 CST swb 4x4 (speedwarning,cruise,tilt,tach,8track, original red shoulder belts,tow hooks) 1972 Jimmy (soon to be Hickey cloned) 1971 Cheyenne Super 4x4 swb (tilt,tach,buckets, original blue shoulder belts,am/fm,cruise,tow hooks, dealer 8 track) 1972 Cheyenne Super K20 4x4 Custom Camper (tilt, tach, am/fm, tow hooks, bed toolbox, aux gas tank 1972 Cheyenne Super Crew Cab K30 4x4 Duramax, Allison, np205, buckets, tow hooks (CURRENT PROJECT) http://67-72chevytrucks.com/vboard/s...d.php?t=624819 1989 V3500 Crew Cab (454tbi, NV4500, np205) 1970 Chevelle SS (LS5 454,th400,8track,buckets,tach) :2004 Jeep Wrangler Rubicon (daily driver) WTB: 1968-70 Cruise Control Lever

02-20-2009, 07:16 PM	#40
powell72 Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Loveland Co. Posts: 3,098	Re: A Long Time Coming: Shoulder Harness found in my town junkyard Those look great, I'm really jealous. __________________ Chris 74 Custom Deluxe SWB 350/350/3.73’s 99 2wd Silverado RCSB 5.3/4L60/3.90’s http://www.classictrucks.com/feature...short_bed.html

02-21-2009, 04:59 AM	#41
spinning wheels Registered User Join Date: Sep 2001 Location: Hacienda Heights, California USA Posts: 474	Re: A Long Time Coming: Shoulder Harness found in my town junkyard You were looking for blue seat belts? Don't you guys check flebay? I sold seven blue GM seatbelts on flebay for $35 plus shipping, a few months back. I think they were from the late 60s or early 70s. Oh well, next time. __________________ '72 GMC custom camper 350/350

02-21-2009, 02:09 PM	#42
1970cstblazer All stock and staying that way Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: Elkland, PA Posts: 1,287	Re: A Long Time Coming: Shoulder Harness found in my town junkyard Were they shoulder harness belts? I am willing to be that they were not.. __________________ 1970 K/5 Blazer CST 4WD, Bronze, 93k ACT. miles, 350, 4 speed, positraction, 16.5" x 8.25" wheel option, tilt, tach, vacuum, AM/FM, manual throttle...Dad ordered and purchased new 4/70. Currently frame off restoration in progress... 1972 Cheyenne Super 20 2WD, DK Blue/White, 90K ACT. miles, 402, TH400, 4.10 open, tilt, tach, vacuum, A/C, AM/FM, manual throttle.. A mostly original paint never rusted Texas survivor... 2017 Sierra 1500 SLT 4WD, Black, 41k miles, 5.3, 6L80E, 3.42 LS, 20" polished wheels, everything but moonroof and 6.2... 2019 Canyon SLT 4WD, White, 60k miles, 3.6, 8L45, 3.23 LS, 18" wheels

02-22-2009, 10:15 AM	#45
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