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SCOTI · 04-14-2003, 10:18 PM

for my daily beater. Driving home tonight after work, I felt a strange vibe from the gas pedal while climbing the steep curve on the mixmaster. When I entered the short section of hi-way that leads to my house I could hear the engine just rattling away. Got off the hi-way & it has a definite miss & lots of valvetrane clatter.

Got home & checked the oil . . . none. I looked down by the starter & notice I developed a serious leak by the sending unit on the side of the block (6cyl). I grab a rag to wipe it off so I can see what's going on & it comes off in my hand. The 1.5-2" section of tubing that the fittings connect to was cracked & leaked all the oil out on the way home.

I've got to get an easy out to remove what's left of the tubing & put some oil in it & see how bad it is . . .... not holding my breath since it was missing so bad (was fine when I left work 15mins before). Had a sh!tty day @ work as well so I guess @ least everything is consistent w/my day.

Roberty · 04-14-2003, 10:52 PM

Whew - Doesn't sound good does it, 'bro? Hope it's not as bad as it seemed.

Might be a good excuse to swap it over to a V8 - At least that's what I'd tell my wife.

Roberty

1969 GMC · 04-14-2003, 11:41 PM

Hopefully you can fix it, I am partial to inliners, they are cool in a simple kinda way.

krue · 04-14-2003, 11:53 PM

I ran a 250 out of oil once, it just died on me, I poured 2 quarts of oil in it and run it home, BUT I didn't have all that noise goin' on under the hood. Good luck, but it sounds like it is toast.

cdowns · 04-15-2003, 12:40 AM

you can try to use an easyout on the tubing piece to remove it or you could take a tap and tap some threads into the tubing then take a bolt with pipedope on the threads to seal it so you can checkout the condition of the engine

cdowns · 04-15-2003, 12:40 AM

you can try to use an easyout on the tubing piece to remove it or you could take a tap and tap some threads into the tubing then take a bolt with pipedope on the threads to seal it so you can checkout the condition of the engine

O'l Buck · 04-15-2003, 01:47 AM

Depending on how worn the engine was before it ran out of oil, it might be ok, some of these things are so loose they will run without oil for a long time.

SCOTI · 04-15-2003, 03:41 PM

You know those old faded blue jeans w/all the holes & stains that fit so good you just can't chunk them??? Well, that's how broken in this motor is

.

Got the proper easy out today @ work to get out the remaining chunk of tubing & I'll pick up a couple 5qts of oil & see what happens tonight. Thanks.

krue · 04-15-2003, 03:59 PM

Good luck man!
I hope she runs for ya!

Purs · 04-15-2003, 05:23 PM

yeah good luck SCOTI.

trailwart · 04-15-2003, 08:11 PM

hope its not as bad as it sounds

busterwivell · 04-15-2003, 08:40 PM

Good luck, let us know

jhwkns · 04-15-2003, 08:59 PM

Pull your valve cover off and make sure that none of the pushrods have popped out. It's commom for this to happen when you have no oil pressure. The hydraulic lifters will collapse. I hope you didn't hurt it too bad.

SCOTI · 04-15-2003, 09:43 PM

Welllllllllllllllllllllllll . . . . .....IT'S ALIVE!!!

A little more clatter than before, but no bottom end knocking (after filling w/3.5qts of oil). It took a little persuading to get the broken threads of the nipple out, but ok other than that . . ...so far. Still reading about 30psi of pressure when cold (normal) & I'll take it out tomorrow & heat it up a little to see what the pressure does when up to temp. Thanks for the the positive words & thoughts!

krue · 04-15-2003, 10:31 PM

Good Deal!!!
Man those engines are tough!

04-14-2003, 10:18 PM	#1
SCOTI Registered User Join Date: Apr 2001 Location: DALLAS,TX Posts: 21,915	It might be fatal . . .... for my daily beater. Driving home tonight after work, I felt a strange vibe from the gas pedal while climbing the steep curve on the mixmaster. When I entered the short section of hi-way that leads to my house I could hear the engine just rattling away. Got off the hi-way & it has a definite miss & lots of valvetrane clatter. Got home & checked the oil . . . none. I looked down by the starter & notice I developed a serious leak by the sending unit on the side of the block (6cyl). I grab a rag to wipe it off so I can see what's going on & it comes off in my hand. The 1.5-2" section of tubing that the fittings connect to was cracked & leaked all the oil out on the way home. I've got to get an easy out to remove what's left of the tubing & put some oil in it & see how bad it is . . .... not holding my breath since it was missing so bad (was fine when I left work 15mins before). Had a sh!tty day @ work as well so I guess @ least everything is consistent w/my day. __________________ 67SWB-B.B.RetroRod 64SWB-Recycle 89CCDually-Driver/Tow Truck 99CCSWB Driver All Fleetsides @rattlecankustoms in IG Building a small, high rpm engine with the perfect bore, stroke and rod ratio is very impressive. It's like a highly skilled Morrocan sword fighter with a Damascus Steel Scimitar..... *Cubic inches is like Indiana Jones with a cheap pistol.*

04-14-2003, 10:52 PM	#2
Roberty Hot Damn - Here I Am!! Join Date: Feb 2000 Location: Ringgold, Georgia Posts: 726	Whew - Doesn't sound good does it, 'bro? Hope it's not as bad as it seemed. Might be a good excuse to swap it over to a V8 - At least that's what I'd tell my wife. Roberty __________________ My vehicles: '90 Silverado Sport '71 Chevelle SS Convertible '70 C-10 - My Grandfather bought it new - original un-restored

04-14-2003, 11:41 PM	#3
1969 GMC Registered User Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: The Rubber City Posts: 5,498	Hopefully you can fix it, I am partial to inliners, they are cool in a simple kinda way. __________________ 1969 GMC K2500 1996 Honda Accord 2007 Kawasaki KLR 650

04-14-2003, 11:53 PM	#4
krue Designated A-hole! Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: South Mississippi Posts: 36,450	I ran a 250 out of oil once, it just died on me, I poured 2 quarts of oil in it and run it home, BUT I didn't have all that noise goin' on under the hood. Good luck, but it sounds like it is toast. __________________ "If it ain't broke, fix it 'til it is!" Being stupid ain't illegal. We're Still Debt Free Except for the House!!! www.daveramsey.com 70 GMC SWB Stepside project "Green Booger" soon to be 6.0l/4l80e 93 S-10 "Poppaw's Truck"

04-15-2003, 12:40 AM	#5
cdowns Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: daytonabeach Posts: 22,956	you can try to use an easyout on the tubing piece to remove it or you could take a tap and tap some threads into the tubing then take a bolt with pipedope on the threads to seal it so you can checkout the condition of the engine __________________ 71c-10 350/2004r/4:11 lowered3/4 longbed/dead by hurricane MEANING OF DEATH::::: SOMEBODY ELSE GETS YOUR STUFF DONT BELIEVE EVERYTHING YOU THINK TAKE MY ADVISE;I DON'T USE IT ANYWAY

04-15-2003, 01:47 AM	#7
O'l Buck Recovering Truck Driver Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Orleans, NE USA Posts: 1,883	Depending on how worn the engine was before it ran out of oil, it might be ok, some of these things are so loose they will run without oil for a long time. __________________ 67 K-20 350, SM465, Eaton rear, 4.56 no spin option 00 Dodge 2500 4x4, 24V cummins, 5 speed Chad South Central Nebraska

04-15-2003, 03:41 PM	#8
SCOTI Registered User Join Date: Apr 2001 Location: DALLAS,TX Posts: 21,915	You know those old faded blue jeans w/all the holes & stains that fit so good you just can't chunk them??? Well, that's how broken in this motor is . Got the proper easy out today @ work to get out the remaining chunk of tubing & I'll pick up a couple 5qts of oil & see what happens tonight. Thanks. __________________ 67SWB-B.B.RetroRod 64SWB-Recycle 89CCDually-Driver/Tow Truck 99CCSWB Driver All Fleetsides @rattlecankustoms in IG Building a small, high rpm engine with the perfect bore, stroke and rod ratio is very impressive. It's like a highly skilled Morrocan sword fighter with a Damascus Steel Scimitar..... *Cubic inches is like Indiana Jones with a cheap pistol.*

04-15-2003, 03:59 PM	#9
krue Designated A-hole! Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: South Mississippi Posts: 36,450	Good luck man! I hope she runs for ya! __________________ "If it ain't broke, fix it 'til it is!" Being stupid ain't illegal. We're Still Debt Free Except for the House!!! www.daveramsey.com 70 GMC SWB Stepside project "Green Booger" soon to be 6.0l/4l80e 93 S-10 "Poppaw's Truck"

04-15-2003, 05:23 PM	#10
Purs Got Big Block? Join Date: Apr 2000 Location: West Texas Posts: 1,510	yeah good luck SCOTI. __________________ "Experience is what you get when you didn't get what you wanted."

04-15-2003, 08:11 PM	#11
trailwart Registered User Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: michigan Posts: 356	hope its not as bad as it sounds __________________ 72 chevy 3\4 ton 4 speed 4x4 84 1\2 ton 4x4 (gone but not forgotten, thanks for the memories) 1999 suburban 4x4 1982 chevrolet S-10 V-8 (Thanks uncle EARL)

04-15-2003, 08:40 PM	#12
busterwivell Registered User Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: Sahuarita, AZ USA Posts: 2,033	Good luck, let us know __________________ Bill - Tucson, AZ 47 Chevrolet 2 dr sedan 56 Chevrolet 210 2 dr sedan 66 Chevrolet Malibu 2 dr 4 speed 71 Chevrolet C30 Longhorn 86 Chevrolet Monte Carlo SS (Sold) 01 Chevrolet Tahoe IM - BUSTERWIVE@aol.com

04-15-2003, 08:59 PM	#13
jhwkns Registered Cruiser Join Date: May 2002 Location: Las Vegas NV Posts: 2,230	Pull your valve cover off and make sure that none of the pushrods have popped out. It's commom for this to happen when you have no oil pressure. The hydraulic lifters will collapse. I hope you didn't hurt it too bad. __________________ I intend to live forever. So far, so good.

04-15-2003, 09:43 PM	#14
SCOTI Registered User Join Date: Apr 2001 Location: DALLAS,TX Posts: 21,915	Welllllllllllllllllllllllll . . . . .....IT'S ALIVE!!! A little more clatter than before, but no bottom end knocking (after filling w/3.5qts of oil). It took a little persuading to get the broken threads of the nipple out, but ok other than that . . ...so far. Still reading about 30psi of pressure when cold (normal) & I'll take it out tomorrow & heat it up a little to see what the pressure does when up to temp. Thanks for the the positive words & thoughts! __________________ 67SWB-B.B.RetroRod 64SWB-Recycle 89CCDually-Driver/Tow Truck 99CCSWB Driver All Fleetsides @rattlecankustoms in IG Building a small, high rpm engine with the perfect bore, stroke and rod ratio is very impressive. It's like a highly skilled Morrocan sword fighter with a Damascus Steel Scimitar..... *Cubic inches is like Indiana Jones with a cheap pistol.*

04-15-2003, 10:31 PM	#15
krue Designated A-hole! Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: South Mississippi Posts: 36,450	Good Deal!!! Man those engines are tough! __________________ "If it ain't broke, fix it 'til it is!" Being stupid ain't illegal. We're Still Debt Free Except for the House!!! www.daveramsey.com 70 GMC SWB Stepside project "Green Booger" soon to be 6.0l/4l80e 93 S-10 "Poppaw's Truck"



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