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*stepside68* · 11-07-2002, 07:52 AM

all i know he is banned from the board totally

**JIMs70GMC** · 11-07-2002, 08:29 AM

Why?

meathead95 · 11-07-2002, 08:48 AM

cant you tell us what he did so none of us do the same?

teeitup · 11-07-2002, 09:07 AM

Wow, I wonder what he did!!

oldyeller · 11-07-2002, 09:41 AM

could this be related to the hacked AOL spam sending account? I wonder if he was the victom?

just an idea?

dubie · 11-07-2002, 10:26 AM

I think it had something to do with Big71 calling Josh a dick head chicken **** in a PM he sent him. Big71 was banned from the chat room last week for a whole lotta trash talking to a female board member. And I guess he stepped out of the rules, and told off the board owner. I don't think that's a good idea when he holds the "BAN" button.

***Liz*** · 11-07-2002, 10:53 AM

I can't believe how everyone always starts jumping to conclusions like this.

Dubie that was very well said. Even though I talk to Big all the time, I would have perma banned him if it was me. There were a few people in chat when he cussed at TJ. And others who see how he is treating the adminstrators. For the rest of you , he is a nice guy, always has been to me , he just needs to learn to shut his mouth and keep his foot out of it. People who do stupid shiot and get in trouble, always seem to come crying about how innocent they are to fellow board members. Anyone who knows Josh or even deals with him occasionally knows he is too nice. Maybe we should all try getting the facts before we start questioning the mods.

barn9 · 11-07-2002, 11:28 AM

Never met him, and I'm sure he is a nice guy most of the time, but I'm with Josh on this one. Board improvement IMO. He has no-one to blame but himself.

**fine69** · 11-07-2002, 02:07 PM

Why is big71's wife posting stuff about him being banned? She should know why.

**COBALT** · 11-07-2002, 02:21 PM

MHC: I don't see anybody jumping to conclusions here. A couple of members just asked why he was banned. Their reason isn't in the context of why for justification, but more out of curiosity I think.

This leads to a thought I had recently. Josh, and/or his admins probably haven't really considered this yet. If it gets public that a few members have been banned (and it already has) a knee-jerk reaction for a lot of folks still on the board is to get mad or accusatory, and think the admins are on a banning spree. Of course this isn't true, and 99.9% of the people here are good people that have demonstrated their ability to show restraint when things get heated, and know when to admit when they're wrong.

The truth is there's a few individuals on this board who have a hard time communicating with others, or respecting others contributions or place on the board, and after being approached on their attitudes have not reacted reasonably to the criticism. Their reaction is to take their displeasure to the board or the chat publicly, and can't keep it off. They've also chosen to repeat whatever the behavior or attitude that got them in trouble in the first place. Josh and his coleagues will only put up with so much, so they ban the individuals who choose not to follow the rules, or are willing to at least let something drop and move on without repeating themselves. To us the administrators may seem a bit reactionary, and that may be true when arguments break out, but there's things going on that we may not know about. Public confrontations aside, I think they're trying to do the best they can. The site is free for cryin' out loud, and its a good resource. Keeping it that way is a chore to say the least.

Beware though. The administrators can't of course prevent people from circulating email, or approaching others in an attempt to drum-up support for their side. I'm sure that's happen to a few of us.

Ultimately, aside from speculation I'd say either way in the long run it's none of our business anyway. Josh is the owner, TJ is an admin along with some others, and they do their jobs as they see fit. Period. Everyone here has the choice of accepting that, or going to a different board.

***Liz*** · 11-07-2002, 02:54 PM

Cobalt I am sorry if I seemed out of line in what I said at first. What I was refering to wasn't only in this post. It has happened alot lately and most times it is due to a lack of knowledge . I also know that stepside 68, the thread starter, is a friend or relative of Tony's. This was done just to stir the pot . As I said before, I do talk to Tony and he has usually been very nice to me. It is sad to see someone who has condemed me in the past for my sins etc. to feel it is ok to speak totally out of line to other members in chat. Any of you that chat regularly know I am not easily offended.

*Slams_58* · 11-07-2002, 03:02 PM

You tell a moderator to F*ck off.... you're asking for a kick in the ass..... then go after the board owner.... well you get what you deserve. I had no problems with Tony as a person.... we had our conflict as most of you know, but he went overboard on a couple of occasions and will now have to own up to it! Simple as that. I don't think Tom or Josh acted out of line in any way.

**COBALT** · 11-07-2002, 03:09 PM

Ah...guess I missed something.

*stepside68* · 11-07-2002, 04:00 PM

iam not trying to stir the pot i was just letting the ones he deals with that he ant here no more thats all... if you got any dealing with big you talk to him true this accont unless josh bann me to

***Liz*** · 11-07-2002, 04:05 PM

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Originally posted by stepside68
iam not trying to stir the pot i was just letting the ones he deals with that he ant here no more thats all... if you got any dealing with big you talk to him true this accont unless josh bann me to

enough said right there

Maximum Overdrive · 11-07-2002, 04:16 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by stepside68
iam not trying to stir the pot i was just letting the ones he deals with that he ant here no more thats all... if you got any dealing with big you talk to him true this accont unless josh bann me to

Is it possible two people have the same pattern for misspelling words and sentence structure??

Alexis · 11-07-2002, 04:22 PM

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Originally posted by Maximum Overdrive

Is it possible two people have the same pattern for misspelling words and sentence structure??

I was just thinking that

dubie · 11-07-2002, 04:24 PM

I'm sorry and i don't mean to offend , but either this is Tony under a different name on someone elses computer or he married his sister. There is no way in hell that 2 people can have the exact same grammar and punctuation. Just an observation. I see Maximum agrees with me.

whateva · 11-07-2002, 04:31 PM

Tony the born again Christian was talking bad about women and he swore at Josh.....lol

Josh cut off a big contributor to the board like Tony

He must be close to finishing his truck :p

Seems like there are a lot less familair faces any more

*todd12464* · 11-07-2002, 05:48 PM

I thought I would try to clear up a few thing about tony being banned. first tony did'nt pm josh I did and I stick to what I said.Tony is agood hearted man and would do anything he could to help anyone that come to him with questions about body work,finding parts and even supporting this website.For all of you jerks making fun of him Iwould like to see you talk your **** face to face with him tony being ban is not his loss but this boards loss

**COBALT** · 11-07-2002, 05:54 PM

Now, lets not start dragging his personal preferences, opinions and habits into this. This is about his behavior on the board, not about whether or not people agree with his views on womens' rights or his status as a Christian. Just because he says he's a born again Christian and swears that doesn't mean he's someone to laugh at.

I'm a Christian, and have a problem keeping my mouth clean sometimes as well. You might as well lump me in with him if you're going to stick by that standard.

I'm not mad or anything, I'm just throwing up a warning flag.

Alexis · 11-07-2002, 06:07 PM

todd12464 dont be an a$$ dude. So you pretty much cleared it up. you got Big71 banned just cause he couldnt respect other members you took it on your self to take it to another level.

Maximum Overdrive · 11-07-2002, 06:11 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by todd12464
I thought I would try to clear up a few thing about tony being banned. first tony did'nt pm josh I did and I stick to what I said.Tony is agood hearted man and would do anything he could to help anyone that come to him with questions about body work,finding parts and even supporting this website.For all of you jerks making fun of him Iwould like to see you talk your **** face to face with him tony being ban is not his loss but this boards loss

Must be from a relation as I see the same structure mistakes.

DennyB · 11-07-2002, 06:16 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by todd12464
I thought I would try to clear up a few thing about tony being banned. first tony did'nt pm josh I did and I stick to what I said.Tony is agood hearted man and would do anything he could to help anyone that come to him with questions about body work,finding parts and even supporting this website.For all of you jerks making fun of him Iwould like to see you talk your **** face to face with him tony being ban is not his loss but this boards loss

All ready sent a PM but this is your first post...ponderous..

whateva · 11-07-2002, 06:19 PM

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Originally posted by COBALT
Now, lets not start dragging his personal preferences, opinions and habits into this. This is about his behavior on the board, not about whether or not people agree with his views on womens' rights or his status as a Christian. Just because he says he's a born again Christian and swears that doesn't mean he's someone to laugh at.

I'm a Christian, and have a problem keeping my mouth clean sometimes as well. You might as well lump me in with him if you're going to stick by that standard.

I'm not mad or anything, I'm just throwing up a warning flag.

Cobalt, there is a big difference. Tony on numerous ocassions has made his very strong "personal" feelings known on this board about both subjects. So he opens himself up to this stuff. He is the one that post that women were basically nothing more than something nice to look at and should not do any type of leadership, because "that is what it says in the bible". When he posted this crap, his personal beliefs aren't so personal. Many people have said that there is no room on the truck board for this crap, but it continues. Then when the people that keep pushing this crap falters, they don't want to hear about it.

11-07-2002, 07:52 AM	#1
stepside68 Account Suspended Join Date: Feb 2002 Location: Jonesville NC Posts: 149	Josh Banned BIG71 all i know he is banned from the board totally

11-07-2002, 08:29 AM	#2
JIMs70GMC user # 2756 Join Date: Jun 2001 Location: Chesapeake, Virginia Posts: 4,612	Why? __________________ 1970 K25, 8' stepside bed 350/465/205 44 up front, 60 in the rear 4.10s rolling on 33" Dunlop MTs 1986 K5, 350/465/208 Dana 60/14 bolt from a cucv 36" Super Swampers TSL/SX 1983 K20 w/ CUCV axles, 350/700R4/208 sitting on 37" Goodyears 1986 M1031 6.2 diesel, TH400/NP205 locker in the rear and a LS in the front, all stock for now..... 1986 K30, 350/400/205 dana 60 and 14 bolt. I kept the drivetrain. Body/bad and chassis are gone. 1981 K30, 350/465/205 dana 60 and dually 14 bolt. Has a G80, and a flat bed. Going to replace the flat bed. 1985 K20, 350/400/208 10 bolt and SF 14 bolt. I wonder where I can find some 1 tons. Hmmmmm

11-07-2002, 08:48 AM	#3
meathead95 computer illiterate Join Date: Jan 2001 Location: Des Moines, IA Posts: 6,446	cant you tell us what he did so none of us do the same? __________________ 72 2wd blazer 72 swb 4x4

11-07-2002, 09:07 AM	#4
teeitup Just like to part out trucks!! Join Date: Nov 2001 Location: Meriden, Ks-North of Topeka 10 miles Posts: 27,396	Wow, I wonder what he did!! __________________ 67 Chev swb stepside 4x4 283 4 speed SOLD 72 blazer 4x4 4 speed Cheyenne 72 GMC swb 4x4 fleet 4 speed, original paint 1958 Cameo (one of 1405 built, it was my dads) 2020 chevy Apex 4x4 crew cab 1969 Z28 with the 302 1980 chevy swb 4x4 1964 chevell Malibu SS 1976 K20, sold new originally out of my dads chevy dealership Members that I've met, over 200 probably closer to 300 in the 12 years I've been on this site, everyone I met "It was a pleasure"

11-07-2002, 09:41 AM	#5
oldyeller Captain CAAAVVVMMMAAANNN! Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Anna Texas Posts: 726	could this be related to the hacked AOL spam sending account? I wonder if he was the victom? just an idea? __________________ 72 LWB Fleetside C10 Custom 350/350 97 GMC Yukon 4X4 SLT Anna, Texas check out the project old yeller

11-07-2002, 10:26 AM	#6
dubie Registered User Join Date: May 2000 Location: Flin Flon, Manitoba, Canada Posts: 8,855	I think it had something to do with Big71 calling Josh a dick head chicken **** in a PM he sent him. Big71 was banned from the chat room last week for a whole lotta trash talking to a female board member. And I guess he stepped out of the rules, and told off the board owner. I don't think that's a good idea when he holds the "BAN" button. __________________ My name's Tim and I'm a truckaholic My 56 Chevy shop truck build http://67-72chevytrucks.com/vboard/s...d.php?t=562795

11-07-2002, 10:53 AM	#7
*Liz* Catchy title goes here.. Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Rockwell, NC Posts: 39,731	I can't believe how everyone always starts jumping to conclusions like this. Dubie that was very well said. Even though I talk to Big all the time, I would have perma banned him if it was me. There were a few people in chat when he cussed at TJ. And others who see how he is treating the adminstrators. For the rest of you , he is a nice guy, always has been to me , he just needs to learn to shut his mouth and keep his foot out of it. People who do stupid shiot and get in trouble, always seem to come crying about how innocent they are to fellow board members. Anyone who knows Josh or even deals with him occasionally knows he is too nice. Maybe we should all try getting the facts before we start questioning the mods.

11-07-2002, 11:28 AM	#8
barn9 Half a bubble off! Join Date: Jun 2000 Location: Winfield, Ks, USA Posts: 5,588	Never met him, and I'm sure he is a nice guy most of the time, but I'm with Josh on this one. Board improvement IMO. He has no-one to blame but himself. __________________ Just call me LB. '71 Cheyenne, 402BB, hauls blondes, brunettes, or redheads.

11-07-2002, 02:07 PM	#9
fine69 Senior Member Join Date: Dec 1999 Location: Urbana,Ohio,USA Posts: 4,618	Why is big71's wife posting stuff about him being banned? She should know why.

11-07-2002, 02:21 PM	#10
COBALT Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2001 Location: Seattle, WA, USA Posts: 5,817	MHC: I don't see anybody jumping to conclusions here. A couple of members just asked why he was banned. Their reason isn't in the context of why for justification, but more out of curiosity I think. This leads to a thought I had recently. Josh, and/or his admins probably haven't really considered this yet. If it gets public that a few members have been banned (and it already has) a knee-jerk reaction for a lot of folks still on the board is to get mad or accusatory, and think the admins are on a banning spree. Of course this isn't true, and 99.9% of the people here are good people that have demonstrated their ability to show restraint when things get heated, and know when to admit when they're wrong. The truth is there's a few individuals on this board who have a hard time communicating with others, or respecting others contributions or place on the board, and after being approached on their attitudes have not reacted reasonably to the criticism. Their reaction is to take their displeasure to the board or the chat publicly, and can't keep it off. They've also chosen to repeat whatever the behavior or attitude that got them in trouble in the first place. Josh and his coleagues will only put up with so much, so they ban the individuals who choose not to follow the rules, or are willing to at least let something drop and move on without repeating themselves. To us the administrators may seem a bit reactionary, and that may be true when arguments break out, but there's things going on that we may not know about. Public confrontations aside, I think they're trying to do the best they can. The site is free for cryin' out loud, and its a good resource. Keeping it that way is a chore to say the least. Beware though. The administrators can't of course prevent people from circulating email, or approaching others in an attempt to drum-up support for their side. I'm sure that's happen to a few of us. Ultimately, aside from speculation I'd say either way in the long run it's none of our business anyway. Josh is the owner, TJ is an admin along with some others, and they do their jobs as they see fit. Period. Everyone here has the choice of accepting that, or going to a different board. __________________ '69 3/4 ton C20 2wd-350ci/TH400 '69 3/4 ton Custom 20 2wd-350ci/4sp Manual '99 2wd 5.7 Chevy Tahoe Seattle, WA.

11-07-2002, 02:54 PM	#11
*Liz* Catchy title goes here.. Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Rockwell, NC Posts: 39,731	Cobalt I am sorry if I seemed out of line in what I said at first. What I was refering to wasn't only in this post. It has happened alot lately and most times it is due to a lack of knowledge . I also know that stepside 68, the thread starter, is a friend or relative of Tony's. This was done just to stir the pot . As I said before, I do talk to Tony and he has usually been very nice to me. It is sad to see someone who has condemed me in the past for my sins etc. to feel it is ok to speak totally out of line to other members in chat. Any of you that chat regularly know I am not easily offended.

11-07-2002, 03:02 PM	#12
Slams_58 Account Suspended Join Date: May 2002 Location: I let ya know as soon as I know Posts: 3,593	You tell a moderator to F*ck off.... you're asking for a kick in the ass..... then go after the board owner.... well you get what you deserve. I had no problems with Tony as a person.... we had our conflict as most of you know, but he went overboard on a couple of occasions and will now have to own up to it! Simple as that. I don't think Tom or Josh acted out of line in any way.

11-07-2002, 03:09 PM	#13
COBALT Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2001 Location: Seattle, WA, USA Posts: 5,817	Ah...guess I missed something. __________________ '69 3/4 ton C20 2wd-350ci/TH400 '69 3/4 ton Custom 20 2wd-350ci/4sp Manual '99 2wd 5.7 Chevy Tahoe Seattle, WA.

11-07-2002, 04:00 PM	#14
stepside68 Account Suspended Join Date: Feb 2002 Location: Jonesville NC Posts: 149	iam not trying to stir the pot i was just letting the ones he deals with that he ant here no more thats all... if you got any dealing with big you talk to him true this accont unless josh bann me to

11-07-2002, 04:24 PM	#18
dubie Registered User Join Date: May 2000 Location: Flin Flon, Manitoba, Canada Posts: 8,855	I'm sorry and i don't mean to offend , but either this is Tony under a different name on someone elses computer or he married his sister. There is no way in hell that 2 people can have the exact same grammar and punctuation. Just an observation. I see Maximum agrees with me. __________________ My name's Tim and I'm a truckaholic My 56 Chevy shop truck build http://67-72chevytrucks.com/vboard/s...d.php?t=562795



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11-07-2002, 04:31 PM	#19
whateva Registered User Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: Poway, Ca Posts: 108	Tony the born again Christian was talking bad about women and he swore at Josh.....lol Josh cut off a big contributor to the board like Tony He must be close to finishing his truck :p Seems like there are a lot less familair faces any more

11-07-2002, 05:48 PM	#20
todd12464 Account Suspended Join Date: Aug 2001 Location: nc Posts: 1	I thought I would try to clear up a few thing about tony being banned. first tony did'nt pm josh I did and I stick to what I said.Tony is agood hearted man and would do anything he could to help anyone that come to him with questions about body work,finding parts and even supporting this website.For all of you jerks making fun of him Iwould like to see you talk your **** face to face with him tony being ban is not his loss but this boards loss

11-07-2002, 05:54 PM	#21
COBALT Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2001 Location: Seattle, WA, USA Posts: 5,817	Now, lets not start dragging his personal preferences, opinions and habits into this. This is about his behavior on the board, not about whether or not people agree with his views on womens' rights or his status as a Christian. Just because he says he's a born again Christian and swears that doesn't mean he's someone to laugh at. I'm a Christian, and have a problem keeping my mouth clean sometimes as well. You might as well lump me in with him if you're going to stick by that standard. I'm not mad or anything, I'm just throwing up a warning flag. __________________ '69 3/4 ton C20 2wd-350ci/TH400 '69 3/4 ton Custom 20 2wd-350ci/4sp Manual '99 2wd 5.7 Chevy Tahoe Seattle, WA.

11-07-2002, 06:07 PM	#22
Alexis Member since 2000 Join Date: Dec 2000 Location: Mountain View Ca / Mexico Posts: 7,879	todd12464 dont be an a$$ dude. So you pretty much cleared it up. you got Big71 banned just cause he couldnt respect other members you took it on your self to take it to another level. Last edited by Alexis; 11-07-2002 at 06:10 PM.

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