AM/FM ebay ripoff and I lost out! - The 1947 - Present Chevrolet & GMC Truck Message Board Network

**HOTFUN** · 01-03-2009, 07:07 PM

This was the deal.

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eB...3AIT&viewitem=

Ebay and paypal are just like the casino's, they just never lose.

Well I bought it with the BIN what was pictured as a decent factory AM/FM from a 1970 Blazer. Guy even described that it worked and he had removed from his Blazer to install a CD deck. Buy it Now was $180 + $17 shipping for a lightly pitted but working radio. My wife thought it would be something she could buy for our nice 71 Cheyenne survivor C10 so we bought it Dec 3rd and paid with Paypal via our credit card.

A week later I get a box with a rusty beat up black knob AM 67-72 radio from the guy. After 5 contacts and even two phone messages to him he replies back that oh he was just selling it for a friend and he'll get a hold of him to make it right or send the right radio. Never heard from him again even though the radio box came right from this sellers house in Pennsylvania. Even found out it must be a kid living at his parents house by the phone number given to me from Ebay.

Filed the complaint which eBay made me file with Paypal and of course they could not resolve and awarded me judgement by default. But guess what, no money because they can no longer sieze any funds from his accounts.
So let this be a lesson NOT to ever use your bank funds to pay for paypal even though they try their hardest to discourage using other fund payment.
I still used my credit card on Paypal so maybe I still can dispute the credit card payment to Paypal.

**leddzepp** · 01-03-2009, 07:10 PM

Be sure to leave negative feedback. After 3 negs, ebay will revoke him.

**HOTFUN** · 01-03-2009, 07:16 PM

One last time and if this doesn't work it is eBay listing # 250334891132

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eB...3AIT&viewitem=

**72 Super** · 01-03-2009, 07:23 PM

Mark, sorry to hear about your misfortune. Hopefully you can resolve it or atleast get your money back. I have always used my credit card for pay pal and have often thought about changing to my account but always been kind a leary. The main reason is because I can only do $500 via credit card, after hearing your situation I am glad I havn't changed it.

Ray

**too much stuff** · 01-03-2009, 07:25 PM

Sorry to hear that mark. Hopefully you will get your money back. Eric

teeitup · 01-03-2009, 07:25 PM

WOW Mark, thats complete BS!!! You ought to see if any of our members are close to him maybe one or two of them would pay him a visit!!!

71swb4x4 · 01-03-2009, 07:29 PM

Is his first name Greg?

Call his local police station. Many stations have someone that specializes in internet fraud. One call from a police officer is probably all it would take for the loser to send you your money back.

**HOTFUN** · 01-03-2009, 07:30 PM

Ray, I have always thought that too about using the card for payment but even my GM Mastercard took seven emails and finally a fax of 7 pages to get the ball rolling with them. Still wonder how long that might be and how well they get along with stopping payment from Paypal. Mark

**HOTFUN** · 01-03-2009, 07:34 PM

If you can get to the list number be sure to read my feedback on his account. I expect eBay will squash it soon.

**leddzepp** · 01-03-2009, 07:46 PM

I read his feedback...thanks for the link. I am going to send him an email and tell him he is a bum.

71swb4x4 · 01-03-2009, 07:49 PM

On the item page there is a big logo on Buyer Protection with Paypal.
The funny thing is that it makes it sound like Paypal will cover you regardless of the financial situation of the seller.

chipflyer · 01-03-2009, 08:11 PM

Sorry to hear about your trouble Mark, I can't stand a thief, what he did was worse than someone not even sending an item. I have added him to my favorite sellers list with a note about how crooked he is. I use the favorite sellers to keep track of the bad guys as well as a good.

Jeff

caminokid · 01-03-2009, 08:15 PM

And people ask me why I dont use ripoffbay and screwedyoupal. This is a good reason to boycott both.

Husker · 01-03-2009, 08:17 PM

I sent a Message through Ebay also. What's his Name, we could all help out with a call to the Local Sheriff?
Ron

**68350** · 01-03-2009, 08:55 PM

I too suggest calling the police. This is fraud, plain and simple. I'm not exactly sure how it works, but this could be mail fraud, too. What's his username? The link says item no longer avail to be viewed. Hope all works well with your situation.

**leddzepp** · 01-03-2009, 08:58 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by caminokid

And people ask me why I dont use ripoffbay and screwedyoupal. This is a good reason to boycott both.

Thay are one in the same...FEEbay bought out paypal, and now owns it. They make money with their fees, AND paypal's fees too.

Husker · 01-03-2009, 09:03 PM

Link thing ain't working proper, I tried 2 times and had to edit
Ron

**leddzepp** · 01-03-2009, 09:05 PM

Put this number into the "search" on ebay and the item will come up: 250334891132

The links are not working for some reason

chipflyer · 01-03-2009, 09:28 PM

His EBAY user ID is "gstine89".
Like Scott said for some reason EBAY links aren't working from here.

Jeff

msgross · 01-03-2009, 09:41 PM

What's his address? PM if you want...

65chevy4x4 · 01-03-2009, 10:22 PM

I'am sorry for your loss.It happen to me last Nov.I was lucky just loss 30.00 dollars on a truck part i never got.Good luck on trying to get you'r money back.

c10crazy · 01-04-2009, 08:44 AM

I would dispute it with your credit card company and they will most likely refund the charges back to your account and just write it off as a loss.

**special-K** · 01-04-2009, 10:46 AM

I think it`s downright criminal that Ebay claims you are protected to give buyers confidence when there is actually no protection to buyers.Now,they only allow PayPal(cuts me out) and go further to claim it`s to offer even better buyer protection.
Ebay/PayPal does exactly what this crooked seller does...lie to get your money with no concern that you aren`t getting what is paid for.

cooldudecoco · 01-04-2009, 10:53 AM

i sent the guy a email and i put him on not to deal with list

**HOTFUN** · 01-04-2009, 12:20 PM

Another problem that Paypal and eBay posed was they required a 10 day wait from the time the payment was posted for a buyer to file a dispute. Go figure we give the guy another 8 days from the time I got the AM radio to screw someone else. I went to Paypal to get their ruling and then went to my credit card and filed the claim using this info from Paypal. In Ebay rules and Paypal they immediately stop the investigation if you file with your credit card so I let them go and give me their answer that I am screwed. Thats all I needed to proceed.
I already lost the phone number but his email is chevyanytimebaby@hotmail.com and his name is Garrett Stine from Chambersburg, PA if anyone ever runs across this kid.

01-03-2009, 07:07 PM	#1
HOTFUN Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2001 Location: Lincoln, Nebraska Posts: 2,135	AM/FM ebay ripoff and I lost out! This was the deal. http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eB...3AIT&viewitem= Ebay and paypal are just like the casino's, they just never lose. Well I bought it with the BIN what was pictured as a decent factory AM/FM from a 1970 Blazer. Guy even described that it worked and he had removed from his Blazer to install a CD deck. Buy it Now was $180 + $17 shipping for a lightly pitted but working radio. My wife thought it would be something she could buy for our nice 71 Cheyenne survivor C10 so we bought it Dec 3rd and paid with Paypal via our credit card. A week later I get a box with a rusty beat up black knob AM 67-72 radio from the guy. After 5 contacts and even two phone messages to him he replies back that oh he was just selling it for a friend and he'll get a hold of him to make it right or send the right radio. Never heard from him again even though the radio box came right from this sellers house in Pennsylvania. Even found out it must be a kid living at his parents house by the phone number given to me from Ebay. Filed the complaint which eBay made me file with Paypal and of course they could not resolve and awarded me judgement by default. But guess what, no money because they can no longer sieze any funds from his accounts. So let this be a lesson NOT to ever use your bank funds to pay for paypal even though they try their hardest to discourage using other fund payment. I still used my credit card on Paypal so maybe I still can dispute the credit card payment to Paypal. __________________ '66 CST BBW swb fleet 327 fac ac '67 CST 4x4 swb 327 stepside project '72 Cheyenne K20 50k original '72 Cheyenne Super K20 project '73 Sierra swb 4x4 frame off in paint stage '74 Cheyenne Super swb w/16k actual '71 & 72 Cheyenne K10 4x4 swb's '70 426 HEMICUDA conv SHAKER 4 sp Dana 60 '60 Impala conv 327 PG fac ac loaded 3rd owner '72 GMC K2500 4x4 '59 Apache CST BBW fleetside swb 283 '73 ElCamino SS LS1 T56 true SS bucket tach '76 ElCamino SS 52k survivor '87 Grand National 41k True 2nd to last built in 1987. '86 K30 454 SRW fleetside CA since new '88 Trans Am GTA 39k bought new 2018 DEMON plum crazy @ 840HP! "Need for speed" Last edited by HOTFUN; 01-03-2009 at 07:32 PM.

01-03-2009, 07:10 PM	#2
leddzepp Moderator Join Date: May 2007 Location: Southern Cal Posts: 19,979	Re: AM/FM ebay ripoff and I lost out! Be sure to leave negative feedback. After 3 negs, ebay will revoke him.

01-03-2009, 07:16 PM	#3
HOTFUN Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2001 Location: Lincoln, Nebraska Posts: 2,135	Re: AM/FM ebay ripoff and I lost out! One last time and if this doesn't work it is eBay listing # 250334891132 http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eB...3AIT&viewitem= __________________ '66 CST BBW swb fleet 327 fac ac '67 CST 4x4 swb 327 stepside project '72 Cheyenne K20 50k original '72 Cheyenne Super K20 project '73 Sierra swb 4x4 frame off in paint stage '74 Cheyenne Super swb w/16k actual '71 & 72 Cheyenne K10 4x4 swb's '70 426 HEMICUDA conv SHAKER 4 sp Dana 60 '60 Impala conv 327 PG fac ac loaded 3rd owner '72 GMC K2500 4x4 '59 Apache CST BBW fleetside swb 283 '73 ElCamino SS LS1 T56 true SS bucket tach '76 ElCamino SS 52k survivor '87 Grand National 41k True 2nd to last built in 1987. '86 K30 454 SRW fleetside CA since new '88 Trans Am GTA 39k bought new 2018 DEMON plum crazy @ 840HP! "Need for speed"

01-03-2009, 07:23 PM	#4
72 Super Senior Member Join Date: Jul 2001 Location: Hyattsville, Maryland Posts: 3,677	Re: AM/FM ebay ripoff and I lost out! Mark, sorry to hear about your misfortune. Hopefully you can resolve it or atleast get your money back. I have always used my credit card for pay pal and have often thought about changing to my account but always been kind a leary. The main reason is because I can only do $500 via credit card, after hearing your situation I am glad I havn't changed it. Ray __________________ 72 Cheyenne Super (Purchased new by my parents in August of 71) Black and White

01-03-2009, 07:25 PM	#5
too much stuff Roadtrip! Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: Grand Rapids MN Posts: 13,691	Re: AM/FM ebay ripoff and I lost out! Sorry to hear that mark. Hopefully you will get your money back. Eric __________________ 67 gmc custom lwb dakota truck. Sold...And bought back 69 swb 4x4 project (in progress) 70 c-10 lwb texas truck 70 4x4/BB/bkts/posi/tach(retired) 70 swb (wifes) 70 jimmy camper 71 K-5 factory 2wd 71 cheyenne 4x4/tach/posi/ plow rig 71 Cheyenne20 BB, buckets, tach, tilt, 4 speed 72 jimmy CST wyoming rig 72 jimmy Colorado rig 72 lifted texas 4x4 3/4 ton burb 65 fury conv. 383/auto 65 chrysler 300 "L" 413 auto

01-03-2009, 07:25 PM	#6
teeitup Just like to part out trucks!! Join Date: Nov 2001 Location: Meriden, Ks-North of Topeka 10 miles Posts: 27,396	Re: AM/FM ebay ripoff and I lost out! WOW Mark, thats complete BS!!! You ought to see if any of our members are close to him maybe one or two of them would pay him a visit!!! __________________ 67 Chev swb stepside 4x4 283 4 speed SOLD 72 blazer 4x4 4 speed Cheyenne 72 GMC swb 4x4 fleet 4 speed, original paint 1958 Cameo (one of 1405 built, it was my dads) 2020 chevy Apex 4x4 crew cab 1969 Z28 with the 302 1980 chevy swb 4x4 1964 chevell Malibu SS 1976 K20, sold new originally out of my dads chevy dealership Members that I've met, over 200 probably closer to 300 in the 12 years I've been on this site, everyone I met "It was a pleasure" Last edited by teeitup; 01-03-2009 at 07:26 PM.

01-03-2009, 07:29 PM	#7
71swb4x4 Senior Member Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: Brookings, SD Posts: 10,497	Re: AM/FM ebay ripoff and I lost out! Is his first name Greg? Call his local police station. Many stations have someone that specializes in internet fraud. One call from a police officer is probably all it would take for the loser to send you your money back. __________________ Some people are like slinkies, they aren't good for anything, but you can't help but smile when you see one tumble down the stairs. Last edited by 71swb4x4; 01-03-2009 at 07:31 PM.

01-03-2009, 07:30 PM	#8
HOTFUN Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2001 Location: Lincoln, Nebraska Posts: 2,135	Re: AM/FM ebay ripoff and I lost out! Ray, I have always thought that too about using the card for payment but even my GM Mastercard took seven emails and finally a fax of 7 pages to get the ball rolling with them. Still wonder how long that might be and how well they get along with stopping payment from Paypal. Mark __________________ '66 CST BBW swb fleet 327 fac ac '67 CST 4x4 swb 327 stepside project '72 Cheyenne K20 50k original '72 Cheyenne Super K20 project '73 Sierra swb 4x4 frame off in paint stage '74 Cheyenne Super swb w/16k actual '71 & 72 Cheyenne K10 4x4 swb's '70 426 HEMICUDA conv SHAKER 4 sp Dana 60 '60 Impala conv 327 PG fac ac loaded 3rd owner '72 GMC K2500 4x4 '59 Apache CST BBW fleetside swb 283 '73 ElCamino SS LS1 T56 true SS bucket tach '76 ElCamino SS 52k survivor '87 Grand National 41k True 2nd to last built in 1987. '86 K30 454 SRW fleetside CA since new '88 Trans Am GTA 39k bought new 2018 DEMON plum crazy @ 840HP! "Need for speed"

01-03-2009, 07:34 PM	#9
HOTFUN Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2001 Location: Lincoln, Nebraska Posts: 2,135	Re: AM/FM ebay ripoff and I lost out! If you can get to the list number be sure to read my feedback on his account. I expect eBay will squash it soon. __________________ '66 CST BBW swb fleet 327 fac ac '67 CST 4x4 swb 327 stepside project '72 Cheyenne K20 50k original '72 Cheyenne Super K20 project '73 Sierra swb 4x4 frame off in paint stage '74 Cheyenne Super swb w/16k actual '71 & 72 Cheyenne K10 4x4 swb's '70 426 HEMICUDA conv SHAKER 4 sp Dana 60 '60 Impala conv 327 PG fac ac loaded 3rd owner '72 GMC K2500 4x4 '59 Apache CST BBW fleetside swb 283 '73 ElCamino SS LS1 T56 true SS bucket tach '76 ElCamino SS 52k survivor '87 Grand National 41k True 2nd to last built in 1987. '86 K30 454 SRW fleetside CA since new '88 Trans Am GTA 39k bought new 2018 DEMON plum crazy @ 840HP! "Need for speed"

01-03-2009, 07:46 PM	#10
leddzepp Moderator Join Date: May 2007 Location: Southern Cal Posts: 19,979	Re: AM/FM ebay ripoff and I lost out! I read his feedback...thanks for the link. I am going to send him an email and tell him he is a bum.

01-03-2009, 07:49 PM	#11
71swb4x4 Senior Member Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: Brookings, SD Posts: 10,497	Re: AM/FM ebay ripoff and I lost out! On the item page there is a big logo on Buyer Protection with Paypal. The funny thing is that it makes it sound like Paypal will cover you regardless of the financial situation of the seller. __________________ Some people are like slinkies, they aren't good for anything, but you can't help but smile when you see one tumble down the stairs.

01-03-2009, 08:11 PM	#12
chipflyer Registered User Join Date: May 2004 Location: Topeka, Ks Posts: 2,293	Re: AM/FM ebay ripoff and I lost out! Sorry to hear about your trouble Mark, I can't stand a thief, what he did was worse than someone not even sending an item. I have added him to my favorite sellers list with a note about how crooked he is. I use the favorite sellers to keep track of the bad guys as well as a good. Jeff __________________ I'm not a pessimist, I'm just optimistic that bad things are going to happen. 1971 Cheyenne Super K10 - tilt, cruise, air, am/fm, tow hooks, factory buckets! 1986 Jeep J10 pickup, - 5.3L Vortec with 4L60e and NP241.

01-03-2009, 08:15 PM	#13
caminokid Chevy nut Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: Springfield, Illinois Posts: 2,265	Re: AM/FM ebay ripoff and I lost out! And people ask me why I dont use ripoffbay and screwedyoupal. This is a good reason to boycott both. __________________ 84 Chevy Custom Deluxe 1/2 Ton Named Fade To Black II "Remember kids there is NO replacement for displacement!"

01-03-2009, 08:17 PM	#14
Husker Registered User Join Date: Dec 1999 Location: Mid NE USA Posts: 2,209	Re: AM/FM ebay ripoff and I lost out! I sent a Message through Ebay also. What's his Name, we could all help out with a call to the Local Sheriff? Ron __________________ Member #111 68 C-10 Daily Driver 70 4x4 Project 76 Jeep CJ-5 Help Support the Board: http://67-72chevytrucks.com/vboard/payments.php He who knows nothing is closer to the truth than he whose mind is filled with falsehoods and errors. Thomas Jefferson

01-03-2009, 08:55 PM	#15
68350 Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: Williston, ND Posts: 2,999	Re: AM/FM ebay ripoff and I lost out! I too suggest calling the police. This is fraud, plain and simple. I'm not exactly sure how it works, but this could be mail fraud, too. What's his username? The link says item no longer avail to be viewed. Hope all works well with your situation. __________________ 68 Chevy CST/10, 50th Anniversary, 327/th400, 373 posi, buckets 68 GMC Shortbox Stepside, 402/th400, Tilt, Tach, Bucket Seats, 3.08 Positraction 69 Chevy Camaro SS, 383, 4 speed, positraction 70 Chevy El Camino SS396, Triple Black, 454/th400, Tach 70 Chevy Shortbox Stepside 4x4, 350/th350, Tilt, Tach, Cab Lights, Bumper Guards, Tow Hooks 70 Chevy 3/4 Longbox, 350/auto, 70k, SURVIVOR 71 Chevy Blazer, CST, 350/auto 71 GMC Sierra K2500, 454, 4 speed, 4.10 posi, 37s 71 Custom/30, Open Road, 350/th400, tilt 72 Chevy Shortbox Fleetside, 496 Stroker/th400, Tilt, Tach, Bucket Seats, 3.42 Posi 72 GMC Sierra Grande 2500. 427/th400, tilt, a/c, tool and stowage, buckets/console, 3.54 posi



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01-03-2009, 09:03 PM	#17
Husker Registered User Join Date: Dec 1999 Location: Mid NE USA Posts: 2,209	Re: AM/FM ebay ripoff and I lost out! Link thing ain't working proper, I tried 2 times and had to edit Ron __________________ Member #111 68 C-10 Daily Driver 70 4x4 Project 76 Jeep CJ-5 Help Support the Board: http://67-72chevytrucks.com/vboard/payments.php He who knows nothing is closer to the truth than he whose mind is filled with falsehoods and errors. Thomas Jefferson Last edited by Husker; 01-03-2009 at 09:05 PM.

01-03-2009, 09:05 PM	#18
leddzepp Moderator Join Date: May 2007 Location: Southern Cal Posts: 19,979	Re: AM/FM ebay ripoff and I lost out! Put this number into the "search" on ebay and the item will come up: 250334891132 The links are not working for some reason

01-03-2009, 09:28 PM	#19
chipflyer Registered User Join Date: May 2004 Location: Topeka, Ks Posts: 2,293	Re: AM/FM ebay ripoff and I lost out! His EBAY user ID is "gstine89". Like Scott said for some reason EBAY links aren't working from here. Jeff __________________ I'm not a pessimist, I'm just optimistic that bad things are going to happen. 1971 Cheyenne Super K10 - tilt, cruise, air, am/fm, tow hooks, factory buckets! 1986 Jeep J10 pickup, - 5.3L Vortec with 4L60e and NP241. Last edited by chipflyer; 01-03-2009 at 09:29 PM.

01-03-2009, 09:41 PM	#20
msgross Registered User Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: Central PA Posts: 12,201	Re: AM/FM ebay ripoff and I lost out! What's his address? PM if you want... __________________ The Garage: 1968 K-10 SWB - "Project Money Pit" 1996 Z-71 - "huntin rig" 1969 C-10 LWB (SOLD) "Project flip that truck or else" 1993 Passport, F@rd 1-ton (SOLD)"Project Cousin Eddie" My Garage Build "The 1,000 footer"

01-03-2009, 10:22 PM	#21
65chevy4x4 Registered User Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: ST. Joseph MO. Posts: 38	Re: AM/FM ebay ripoff and I lost out! I'am sorry for your loss.It happen to me last Nov.I was lucky just loss 30.00 dollars on a truck part i never got.Good luck on trying to get you'r money back.

01-04-2009, 08:44 AM	#22
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01-04-2009, 10:46 AM	#23
special-K Special Order Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: Mt Airy, MD Posts: 85,862	Re: AM/FM ebay ripoff and I lost out! I think it`s downright criminal that Ebay claims you are protected to give buyers confidence when there is actually no protection to buyers.Now,they only allow PayPal(cuts me out) and go further to claim it`s to offer even better buyer protection. Ebay/PayPal does exactly what this crooked seller does...lie to get your money with no concern that you aren`t getting what is paid for. __________________ "BUILDING A BETTER WAY TO SERVE THE USA"......67/72......"The New Breed" GMC '67 C1500 Wideside Super Custom SWB: 327/M22/3.42 posi.........."The '67" (project) GMC '72 K2500 Wideside Sierra Custom Camper: 350/TH350/4.10 Power-Lok..."The '72" (rolling) Tim "Don't call me a redneck. I'm a rough cut country gentleman" R.I.P. ~ East Side Low Life ~ El Jay ~ 72BLUZ ~ Fasteddie69 ~ Ron586 ~ 67ChevyRedneck ~ Grumpy Old Man ~

01-04-2009, 10:53 AM	#24
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01-04-2009, 12:20 PM	#25
HOTFUN Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2001 Location: Lincoln, Nebraska Posts: 2,135	Re: AM/FM ebay ripoff and I lost out! Another problem that Paypal and eBay posed was they required a 10 day wait from the time the payment was posted for a buyer to file a dispute. Go figure we give the guy another 8 days from the time I got the AM radio to screw someone else. I went to Paypal to get their ruling and then went to my credit card and filed the claim using this info from Paypal. In Ebay rules and Paypal they immediately stop the investigation if you file with your credit card so I let them go and give me their answer that I am screwed. Thats all I needed to proceed. I already lost the phone number but his email is chevyanytimebaby@hotmail.com and his name is Garrett Stine from Chambersburg, PA if anyone ever runs across this kid. __________________ '66 CST BBW swb fleet 327 fac ac '67 CST 4x4 swb 327 stepside project '72 Cheyenne K20 50k original '72 Cheyenne Super K20 project '73 Sierra swb 4x4 frame off in paint stage '74 Cheyenne Super swb w/16k actual '71 & 72 Cheyenne K10 4x4 swb's '70 426 HEMICUDA conv SHAKER 4 sp Dana 60 '60 Impala conv 327 PG fac ac loaded 3rd owner '72 GMC K2500 4x4 '59 Apache CST BBW fleetside swb 283 '73 ElCamino SS LS1 T56 true SS bucket tach '76 ElCamino SS 52k survivor '87 Grand National 41k True 2nd to last built in 1987. '86 K30 454 SRW fleetside CA since new '88 Trans Am GTA 39k bought new 2018 DEMON plum crazy @ 840HP! "Need for speed"

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