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**jerry moss** · 12-11-2002, 06:27 PM

was bidding on a set of N.O.S. door latches on ebay, i bid them up a little over 90 bucks for the pair and figured that was enough. i lost them so i decided to call the dealer and see if the part numbers were still good. to my surprise both numbers are still available, and i know why now--196.00 for one side and 192.00 for the other--thats damn close to four hundred bucks for the pair. i guess i'll keep my eyes open for good used ones in the wrecking yards from now on !!!!!!!!!!!!!
sorry, but i needed to vent a little bit, seems to me that G.M. is trying to screw us classic truck owners over, big time.

**1970 CST Short Wide** · 12-11-2002, 06:49 PM

Damn Jerry, yu should have taken the ones off that 72 I parted. I sold a guy the intire workings of both doors including latches and all for $50 and then returned $12 when he said 1 regulator was bad.

Ohh Well

jays68yak · 12-11-2002, 06:51 PM

My dad paid $44 for a NOS glove box latch for his 66 mustang. All he needed was the spring, but couldnt find one in good shape. Im sure a junk yard glove box door would of, but oh well.

pickupman · 12-11-2002, 08:09 PM

Jerry, would you believe 1 month ago cost on them were about $43 each. I went to order another set a week later and they had went up to that. insane

**jerry moss** · 12-11-2002, 08:48 PM

Bill,
they were making money at 43.00 apiece, now they're almost 5 times that much, that's criminal. guess i should have bought some last month. i even tried using our shop discount but it only dropped them down 20% so i'll be using good used ones from now on.

pickupman · 12-11-2002, 09:15 PM

What gets me is it is the exact same part that they have had for years and just keep raising the prices. there is no additional manufacturing costs or anything.

mikeoj · 12-11-2002, 10:10 PM

What are the part numbers,Please.

Huck · 12-11-2002, 10:14 PM

Most latches fail when the gear shaft starts to spin in the outer support of the latch. You can actually spot weld the shaft and that outer support which will usually give you many more years of life. So, keep this in mind and take a second look at used latch assemblies for excessive wear and consider a simple and cheap fix~~~~~. Once fixed, lub the %$# out of them!! Huck

**jerry moss** · 12-11-2002, 10:27 PM

mikeoj, 3919202 and 3919201 are the part numbers.
Huck, thanks for the "home remedy"

mine are still good but i'm doing a frame off and thought i'd stick some new ones in, my used ones are looking much better all the time,lol.

HAPPY HOLIDAYS TO ALL YOU GREAT GUYS AND GALS

**PICKMUP** · 12-12-2002, 04:53 AM

What in the hell is GM doing? A lot of their parts jump up 30%-40% at a time. Nothing else in America is going up like that! $43 to $190---how is that possible? I keep buying GM parts for more than I sold the last ones for. This is really stupid. So much for the "Heartbeat" of America...should be the fleecing of America.

70c10 · 12-12-2002, 10:04 AM

What's wrong with aftermarket?

*Gee_Emm* · 12-12-2002, 10:12 AM

The parts at GM are only going up in price, buy early is my strategy

**1971Stepside** · 12-12-2002, 10:29 AM

I priced the ZZ4 through my dealer in October and they were willing to give me the motor at a $100 over cost, so it was $3456.00. I went back last week and confirmed with them this price as I am getting closer to being able to order the engine...anyway, he said the best he could do now would be $3900.00!!! I couldn't believe the motor had gone up that much in 60 days. Retail on the ZZ4 is now around $5,000.00!!! I'm starting to think I could have my old 4bolt built for that.

**PICKMUP** · 12-14-2002, 08:11 PM

We are so lucky these trucks are so popular, because of all the parts that are being made after market. NOS has gone nuts! Everyone chip in $5 to send to Taiwan...and if you are buying a new car, buy a Toyota or Honda! "Like a Rock"...should be between a rock & a hard place!

imaindianoutlaw · 12-14-2002, 08:19 PM

Dirty B@$t@RD$!

**HOTFUN** · 12-14-2002, 10:44 PM

Boy you think that's bad, go price the 81 - 87 GM parts. I have been sprucing up my 87 4x4 shortbox and I ran across a NOS front fender. Thought I would check what it now costs new before I bought this one privately. Needless to say my newly aquired $100 NOS fender that was around $135 list just a few years back is now $563 list today. And the 6 foot fleetside bedside that were like $535 list are now like $1050 each. Even the dang plastic GM grille with no trim whatsoever list for $128! They were about $58 list. I hate to admit this but the aftermarket repop grille for $45 with shipping looks just fine when you put the original GM bowtie and trim on it.
GM is going to try and get to our pocketbooks without selling a new truck if we want our bowties to look new. HF

Fred T · 12-15-2002, 01:19 AM

Problem is that GM quit making the latches. Prices started going up about 3 months ago. I tried to buy some then, got a right side for $70, couldn't find a left one. Bought an aftermarket for the left and had to work on it to tighten it up similar to the NOS part. My parts guy told me the aftermarkets are the typical junk that don't last, but if that's all you can get...

mikep · 12-15-2002, 01:30 AM

Don't blame the Chinese or the Taiwanese. Blame the U.S. Businessman who figures he can cut costs by 75% by contracting through Oriental manufacturing plants and thus bypassing U.S. Union Labor costs, environmental and quality control costs. So he takes that 75% savings and drops the price by 20% over what the US manufacturers can offer. He still makes a load of money and the only people getting screwed are the American laborers who he could give a damn about as long as his snot nosed brats are put through Dartmouth.

Corporate America ...You SUCK !!!

rusty ol' 69' · 12-15-2002, 03:34 AM

Dude just for the fU(K of it price every part according to GM's pricing scam and add them up then take the total to GM and tell them you'll take a new truck and the rest in cash for the truck!! See what they say. lol

**GMCPaul** · 12-15-2002, 05:44 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by mikep
Don't blame the Chinese or the Taiwanese. Blame the U.S. Businessman who figures he can cut costs by 75% by contracting through Oriental manufacturing plants and thus bypassing U.S. Union Labor costs, environmental and quality control costs. So he takes that 75% savings and drops the price by 20% over what the US manufacturers can offer. He still makes a load of money and the only people getting screwed are the American laborers who he could give a damn about as long as his snot nosed brats are put through Dartmouth.

Corporate America ...You SUCK !!!

A supplier I know took a small part to a USA manufacturer to get a quote for tooling and manufacture of a part, they examined the part and ended up quoting them a little over $60,000.00 to make the tooling only, they then quoted nearly as much per 1000 ran for production. The Taiwan company that was approached quoted $9000.00 for tooling & delivery of 5000 pieces. He is selling his product for $3ea now, if the american company had done the part he would have over $120,000.00 in 1000pieces. Thats a manufacturing cost of $120 per part before figuring any markup.
With manufacturing quotes like these I understand why 90% of the reproduction and aftermarket parts lines are made elsewhere, especially when you find that there are companies overseas willing to produce quality parts.
GMCPaul

Iron-Butt · 12-15-2002, 07:53 AM

Thats why we should save our hard earned money and buy the used parts.

12-11-2002, 06:27 PM	#1
jerry moss Born Psycho Join Date: Feb 2001 Location: brentwood,cal,usa Posts: 4,748	expensive parts was bidding on a set of N.O.S. door latches on ebay, i bid them up a little over 90 bucks for the pair and figured that was enough. i lost them so i decided to call the dealer and see if the part numbers were still good. to my surprise both numbers are still available, and i know why now--196.00 for one side and 192.00 for the other--thats damn close to four hundred bucks for the pair. i guess i'll keep my eyes open for good used ones in the wrecking yards from now on !!!!!!!!!!!!! sorry, but i needed to vent a little bit, seems to me that G.M. is trying to screw us classic truck owners over, big time. __________________ jerry moss 72 cheyenne super K20- tilt,tach,vacuum,speedwarning,buckets,shoulder belts,am/fm,tow hooks,bumper guards,toolbox,aux. fuel tank,posi front and rear,plus other goodies!!! SOLD 69 suburban K20-tilt,tach,vacuum,speedwarning,buckets,shoulder belts,am/fm,4 inch all spring lift,4 speed, 14 bolt full floater, dana 44 HD,warn winch,posi front and rear,tow hooks,plus other goodies. 73/80 chevy/gmc K20 SB400,turbo 400,205,tilt,a-c,gas hog. 77 K/5 cheyenne blazer-daily driver/beater. SON HAS IT NOW BRENTWOOD,CALIFORNIA

12-11-2002, 06:49 PM	#2
1970 CST Short Wide Senior Moment Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Pittsburg Ca Posts: 4,046	Damn Jerry, yu should have taken the ones off that 72 I parted. I sold a guy the intire workings of both doors including latches and all for $50 and then returned $12 when he said 1 regulator was bad. Ohh Well __________________ 1970 CST LS 1 6 speed Ford 9 inch Detroit Tru Track, Dakota Didgital, Vintage Air, QA1 Coil Overs Front & Rear Lots of FUN 2013 GMC PU, Oldest Son 71 GMC LWB. QA1 Suspension, Angry SB. Youngest Son 2019 GMC Diesil Dually. Youngest Son 2017 Toyota SUV Daughters car 2018 Traverse , Wife’s Ride Pittsburg Ca 94565

12-11-2002, 06:51 PM	#3
jays68yak Registered User Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Gilroy, CA Posts: 1,454	My dad paid $44 for a NOS glove box latch for his 66 mustang. All he needed was the spring, but couldnt find one in good shape. Im sure a junk yard glove box door would of, but oh well. __________________ 1969 Chevy Project SWB Fleet, 20s, 5.3, t56, in the weeds. 1970 Chevy Truck cab on a 1979 Jimmy frame-8.1 liter 496 bbc/sm465/np203-jeds doubler-np205/d60/14bff Welded/42 tsls on recentered H1s 1998 Chevy Crew Cab K3500 SAS'd with hpd60, links and swayaway coilovers. 8.1l vortec DD/towrig "I like long walks, especially when they are taken by people who annoy me. "

12-11-2002, 08:09 PM	#4
pickupman Registered User Join Date: Dec 2000 Location: Greeneville, TN Posts: 3,094	Jerry, would you believe 1 month ago cost on them were about $43 each. I went to order another set a week later and they had went up to that. insane __________________ atheystruck@comcast.net 67 1/2 ton 4wd custom cab 72 1/2 ton 4wd super cheyenne 71 1/2 BB super cheyenne shortbed

12-11-2002, 08:48 PM	#5
jerry moss Born Psycho Join Date: Feb 2001 Location: brentwood,cal,usa Posts: 4,748	Bill, they were making money at 43.00 apiece, now they're almost 5 times that much, that's criminal. guess i should have bought some last month. i even tried using our shop discount but it only dropped them down 20% so i'll be using good used ones from now on. __________________ jerry moss 72 cheyenne super K20- tilt,tach,vacuum,speedwarning,buckets,shoulder belts,am/fm,tow hooks,bumper guards,toolbox,aux. fuel tank,posi front and rear,plus other goodies!!! SOLD 69 suburban K20-tilt,tach,vacuum,speedwarning,buckets,shoulder belts,am/fm,4 inch all spring lift,4 speed, 14 bolt full floater, dana 44 HD,warn winch,posi front and rear,tow hooks,plus other goodies. 73/80 chevy/gmc K20 SB400,turbo 400,205,tilt,a-c,gas hog. 77 K/5 cheyenne blazer-daily driver/beater. SON HAS IT NOW BRENTWOOD,CALIFORNIA

12-11-2002, 09:15 PM	#6
pickupman Registered User Join Date: Dec 2000 Location: Greeneville, TN Posts: 3,094	What gets me is it is the exact same part that they have had for years and just keep raising the prices. there is no additional manufacturing costs or anything. __________________ atheystruck@comcast.net 67 1/2 ton 4wd custom cab 72 1/2 ton 4wd super cheyenne 71 1/2 BB super cheyenne shortbed

12-11-2002, 10:10 PM	#7
mikeoj Senior Member Join Date: Nov 2000 Location: WI,USA Posts: 495	What are the part numbers,Please. __________________ 69 Lwb C-10 402/700R4 70 Lwb C-10 250/3pd Wisc.

12-11-2002, 10:14 PM	#8
Huck Senior Member Join Date: Jun 2001 Location: Shelbyville, KY Posts: 3,269	Most latches fail when the gear shaft starts to spin in the outer support of the latch. You can actually spot weld the shaft and that outer support which will usually give you many more years of life. So, keep this in mind and take a second look at used latch assemblies for excessive wear and consider a simple and cheap fix~~~~~. Once fixed, lub the %$# out of them!! Huck

12-11-2002, 10:27 PM	#9
jerry moss Born Psycho Join Date: Feb 2001 Location: brentwood,cal,usa Posts: 4,748	mikeoj, 3919202 and 3919201 are the part numbers. Huck, thanks for the "home remedy" mine are still good but i'm doing a frame off and thought i'd stick some new ones in, my used ones are looking much better all the time,lol. HAPPY HOLIDAYS TO ALL YOU GREAT GUYS AND GALS __________________ jerry moss 72 cheyenne super K20- tilt,tach,vacuum,speedwarning,buckets,shoulder belts,am/fm,tow hooks,bumper guards,toolbox,aux. fuel tank,posi front and rear,plus other goodies!!! SOLD 69 suburban K20-tilt,tach,vacuum,speedwarning,buckets,shoulder belts,am/fm,4 inch all spring lift,4 speed, 14 bolt full floater, dana 44 HD,warn winch,posi front and rear,tow hooks,plus other goodies. 73/80 chevy/gmc K20 SB400,turbo 400,205,tilt,a-c,gas hog. 77 K/5 cheyenne blazer-daily driver/beater. SON HAS IT NOW BRENTWOOD,CALIFORNIA

12-12-2002, 04:53 AM	#10
PICKMUP "Trucks with Class" Join Date: Jul 2000 Location: OLYMPIA, WA, USA Posts: 8,121	What in the hell is GM doing? A lot of their parts jump up 30%-40% at a time. Nothing else in America is going up like that! $43 to $190---how is that possible? I keep buying GM parts for more than I sold the last ones for. This is really stupid. So much for the "Heartbeat" of America...should be the fleecing of America. __________________ Email: frankeham@comcast.net Phone: 360-956-7170

12-12-2002, 10:04 AM	#11
70c10 67-72 Addict! Join Date: Feb 2002 Location: The TAX State! Posts: 7,857	What's wrong with aftermarket? __________________ Jim 1970 C/10 Fleetside w/Ghost Flames Lowered 4.5" front and 4" rear (Raked) 355/350 Turbo w/shift kit 10" Redneck Performance Verter w/2500 stall Hooker Super Comps part#2808-1 Performer RPM Air-Gap 12 Bolt w/3:73 gears- Eaton Posi Comp Cams XE262 with 1.6 Crane Energizers, Road Demon 625 and Brodix IK 180 heads

12-12-2002, 10:12 AM	#12
Gee_Emm Account Suspended Join Date: Sep 2000 Posts: 4,002	The parts at GM are only going up in price, buy early is my strategy

12-12-2002, 10:29 AM	#13
1971Stepside Almost Satisfied Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Springfield, MO Posts: 2,928	I priced the ZZ4 through my dealer in October and they were willing to give me the motor at a $100 over cost, so it was $3456.00. I went back last week and confirmed with them this price as I am getting closer to being able to order the engine...anyway, he said the best he could do now would be $3900.00!!! I couldn't believe the motor had gone up that much in 60 days. Retail on the ZZ4 is now around $5,000.00!!! I'm starting to think I could have my old 4bolt built for that. __________________ 1971 C10 Stepside. LSx 6.0 with BTR Stage IV, Speed Engineering Headers, 4L80e transmission w/3200 Circle-D Stall. 3.73. Posi. Purchased this truck when I was 17. I started the rebuild (or take apart) in 1993. I have drug it around all over the country in pieces. Finally back on the road in 2021. "I can't complain, but sometimes I still do. Life's been good to me so far."

12-14-2002, 08:11 PM	#14
PICKMUP "Trucks with Class" Join Date: Jul 2000 Location: OLYMPIA, WA, USA Posts: 8,121	Lucky Trucks! We are so lucky these trucks are so popular, because of all the parts that are being made after market. NOS has gone nuts! Everyone chip in $5 to send to Taiwan...and if you are buying a new car, buy a Toyota or Honda! "Like a Rock"...should be between a rock & a hard place! __________________ Email: frankeham@comcast.net Phone: 360-956-7170

12-14-2002, 08:19 PM	#15
imaindianoutlaw GMC SHORT FLEET F/S Join Date: Jun 2000 Location: SOUTH WILLIAMSPORT PENNSYLVANNIA Posts: 2,117	Dirty B@$t@RD$! __________________ CHARLES WADE HEIN HVACR FOREMAN. LEWISBURG U.S.P.



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12-14-2002, 10:44 PM	#16
HOTFUN Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2001 Location: Lincoln, Nebraska Posts: 2,135	Boy you think that's bad, go price the 81 - 87 GM parts. I have been sprucing up my 87 4x4 shortbox and I ran across a NOS front fender. Thought I would check what it now costs new before I bought this one privately. Needless to say my newly aquired $100 NOS fender that was around $135 list just a few years back is now $563 list today. And the 6 foot fleetside bedside that were like $535 list are now like $1050 each. Even the dang plastic GM grille with no trim whatsoever list for $128! They were about $58 list. I hate to admit this but the aftermarket repop grille for $45 with shipping looks just fine when you put the original GM bowtie and trim on it. GM is going to try and get to our pocketbooks without selling a new truck if we want our bowties to look new. HF __________________ '66 CST BBW swb fleet 327 fac ac '67 CST 4x4 swb 327 stepside project '72 Cheyenne K20 50k original '72 Cheyenne Super K20 project '73 Sierra swb 4x4 frame off in paint stage '74 Cheyenne Super swb w/16k actual '71 & 72 Cheyenne K10 4x4 swb's '70 426 HEMICUDA conv SHAKER 4 sp Dana 60 '60 Impala conv 327 PG fac ac loaded 3rd owner '72 GMC K2500 4x4 '59 Apache CST BBW fleetside swb 283 '73 ElCamino SS LS1 T56 true SS bucket tach '76 ElCamino SS 52k survivor '87 Grand National 41k True 2nd to last built in 1987. '86 K30 454 SRW fleetside CA since new '88 Trans Am GTA 39k bought new 2018 DEMON plum crazy @ 840HP! "Need for speed"

12-15-2002, 01:19 AM	#17
Fred T Cantankerous Geezer Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: Bel Aire, KS Posts: 6,264	Problem is that GM quit making the latches. Prices started going up about 3 months ago. I tried to buy some then, got a right side for $70, couldn't find a left one. Bought an aftermarket for the left and had to work on it to tighten it up similar to the NOS part. My parts guy told me the aftermarkets are the typical junk that don't last, but if that's all you can get... __________________ Fred There is no such thing as too much cam...just not enough engine.

12-15-2002, 01:30 AM	#18
mikep Used to have a truck Join Date: May 2002 Location: port orchard WA Posts: 1,552	Don't blame the Chinese or the Taiwanese. Blame the U.S. Businessman who figures he can cut costs by 75% by contracting through Oriental manufacturing plants and thus bypassing U.S. Union Labor costs, environmental and quality control costs. So he takes that 75% savings and drops the price by 20% over what the US manufacturers can offer. He still makes a load of money and the only people getting screwed are the American laborers who he could give a damn about as long as his snot nosed brats are put through Dartmouth. Corporate America ...You SUCK !!! __________________ No truck :-(

12-15-2002, 03:34 AM	#19
rusty ol' 69' Grubbin' Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: Chico, CA Posts: 293	Dude just for the fU(K of it price every part according to GM's pricing scam and add them up then take the total to GM and tell them you'll take a new truck and the rest in cash for the truck!! See what they say. lol __________________ project rust attack 1969 Chevrolet LWB w/ 307. I got power steering now woohooooo!!!!!!!

12-15-2002, 07:53 AM	#21
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