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**bb400ho** · 01-15-2019, 12:48 PM

here are a couple of pics of my 68 GMC short bed. there is no SPID but i have some paperwork from the dealership. when i got it it had a step-side bed. the bed was white so it wasn't from this truck . it had a painted white roof but it looked like 67 style. i dont think the sides were white below the trim either.
is there a way to verify if it was fleetside or stepside? where would numbers on the frame be?

**bb400ho** · 01-15-2019, 01:07 PM

one more try on the paperwork

**HO455** · 01-15-2019, 03:02 PM

You may get lucky and find the build sheet still under the upholstery. Or look up the original owner. Long shot but you never know.

Fry · 01-15-2019, 04:00 PM

I was lucky, I sent mine in to vintage vehicle services and got back all my information.
Unfortunately it’s only a Canadian thing.
Nice truck though, I’d like to change my stepper over to a fleet side as well in due time.

**vwagon13** · 01-15-2019, 04:18 PM

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Originally Posted by Fry

I was lucky, I sent mine in to vintage vehicle services and got back all my information.
Unfortunately it’s only a Canadian thing.
Nice truck though, I’d like to change my stepper over to a fleet side as well in due time.

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rockyrivermark · 01-15-2019, 08:04 PM

Looks like a nice fitting aftermarket door
Sweet truck

72longstepper · 01-16-2019, 01:34 AM

Do u mind if I ask---what do u mean "its a Canadian thing"? I know my fender side was made in Canada. Is there a place to ask about my truck in Canada?

AJC · 01-16-2019, 03:11 AM

Using the number from your paper work CE10DPB77121. Shows us its a 2wd v8 1/2 ton wideside built in Pontiac MI 1968. You can go here to see how I got that. GMC and Chevrolet VIN and Model Number Decoders

So it looks like the bed is right.

**special-K** · 01-16-2019, 08:28 AM

Bed type is in the model#, 6th and 7th digits (7th & 8th on '72). 04 is Fenderside/Stepside and 34 is Wideside/Fleetside. 03 would be cab & chassis.

**bb400ho** · 01-16-2019, 09:44 AM

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Originally Posted by AJC

Using the number from your paper work CE10DPB77121. Shows us its a 2wd v8 1/2 ton wideside built in Pontiac MI 1968. You can go here to see how I got that. GMC and Chevrolet VIN and Model Number Decoders

So it looks like the bed is right.

wow good info there. too bad they dont say if it was a shortbed. i dont have any reason to doubt it. the truck was totally in pieces when i got it. there was no evidence of the frame being cut. i did not find any cuts or welds. i didnt find any numbers either.

hugger6933 · 01-16-2019, 10:11 PM

Your paperwork says body side moulding. That would eliminate stepside.

**special-K** · 01-17-2019, 09:43 AM

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Originally Posted by bb400ho

wow good info there. too bad they dont say if it was a shortbed. i dont have any reason to doubt it. the truck was totally in pieces when i got it. there was no evidence of the frame being cut. i did not find any cuts or welds. i didnt find any numbers either.

These are model type questions you are asking... bed type (body style) and wheelbase are what determine the model, all found in your model#. The 4th and 5th digit (5th & 6th in '72) show the wheelbase, 07 is SWB and 09 is LWB... 10 is 133" 1t frame (longhorn, cab & chassis and Fenderside/Stepside).

So CE1 is 2wd V8 1/2t. CE107 is a shortbed. CE109 is a longbed. CE10704 is a short Fenderside and CE10734 is a short wideside

EDIT: Sorry, I overlooked you don't have that in your paperwork. It should have been, but...

Fry · 01-17-2019, 10:02 AM

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Originally Posted by 72longstepper

Do u mind if I ask---what do u mean "its a Canadian thing"? I know my fender side was made in Canada. Is there a place to ask about my truck in Canada?

Trucks produced in Canada and made for sale in Canada you can pay $100 and they will give you the info on your truck.
https://www.vintagevehicleservices.com/
Email them with the vin and they can tell you if they can get the info.
I decoded my VIN online and got wrong/conflicting info as far as year and manufacturing plant. Glad I did it, they confirmed what I needed to know.

**dagnabbitt** · 01-17-2019, 10:50 AM

While the VIN does indicate it is a wide (fleet) side, I don't know that the VIN indicate wheelbase on their own without the model number.

If the original poster has looked at the frame and has found no evidence of cutting and welding, it is likely a true shortbox, which would be good enough for me, its a nice truck. If you suspect that frame has been swapped, VIN might be on top of the front frame rail by the steering box.

Sharing, below, my own 1970 Canadian built info.

**special-K** · 01-17-2019, 11:14 AM

Could be a frame swap.

**bb400ho** · 01-18-2019, 01:27 PM

i found this paperwork with the model number i cant tell if it says 57 or 59 also on the vin plate does anyone know what the DD means?

**HO455** · 01-18-2019, 01:48 PM

Daily driver?

**dagnabbitt** · 01-18-2019, 03:14 PM

You need a magnifying glass! Whether that is a 7 or 9 is interesting.

I don't know what the DD would be, it might be a day of the month or the week code. Never thought about it much.

dfwright · 01-18-2019, 04:50 PM

Looks like it's a nine in the model number. It looks like all the other 9's on that page, and not like any of the 7's

**bb400ho** · 01-21-2019, 05:26 PM

i looked up the op's name on facebook. he passed away in 2002. the first person i reached out to ended up being his daughter. here is her response to a couple of questions

Yes the roof was white. I had forgotten that. Oh wow! My dad loved that truck so much and babied it. Kinda makes me said it looks like that now. I’d like to see pics when you get it done. It has always been a short bed, yes.

01-15-2019, 01:07 PM	#2
bb400ho Active Member Join Date: Jun 2017 Location: erie pa Posts: 150	Re: my 68 GMC (with questions) one more try on the paperwork Attached Images

01-15-2019, 03:02 PM	#3
HO455 Post Whore Join Date: Feb 2016 Location: Portland Oregon Posts: 10,803	Re: my 68 GMC (with questions) You may get lucky and find the build sheet still under the upholstery. Or look up the original owner. Long shot but you never know. __________________ Thanks to Bob and Jeanie and everyone else at Superior Performance for all their great help. RIP Bob Parks. 1967 Burban the WMB,1991 S(stink)-10 Blazer,1969 GTO, 1970 Javelin, 1952 F2 Ford 4X4, 29 Model A, 72 Firebird. 85 Alfa Romeo If it breaks I didn't want it in the first place The WMB repair thread http://67-72chevytrucks.com/vboard/s...d.php?t=698377

01-15-2019, 04:00 PM	#4
Fry Registered User Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: Sask, Canada Posts: 169	Re: my 68 GMC (with questions) I was lucky, I sent mine in to vintage vehicle services and got back all my information. Unfortunately it’s only a Canadian thing. Nice truck though, I’d like to change my stepper over to a fleet side as well in due time.

01-15-2019, 08:04 PM	#6
rockyrivermark Registered User Join Date: Apr 2011 Location: Fairview Park, Ohio Posts: 1,027	Re: my 68 GMC (with questions) Looks like a nice fitting aftermarket door Sweet truck __________________ My build page http://67-72chevytrucks.com/vboard/s...d.php?t=764662 My cabinet building site http://www.cbcabinets.com

01-16-2019, 01:34 AM	#7
72longstepper Registered User Join Date: Dec 2018 Location: Carnation, WA. Posts: 258	Re: my 68 GMC (with questions) Do u mind if I ask---what do u mean "its a Canadian thing"? I know my fender side was made in Canada. Is there a place to ask about my truck in Canada?

01-16-2019, 03:11 AM	#8
AJC Registered User Join Date: Jan 2017 Location: Le Sueur MN Posts: 209	Re: my 68 GMC (with questions) Using the number from your paper work CE10DPB77121. Shows us its a 2wd v8 1/2 ton wideside built in Pontiac MI 1968. You can go here to see how I got that. GMC and Chevrolet VIN and Model Number Decoders So it looks like the bed is right. __________________ AJC

01-16-2019, 08:28 AM	#9
special-K Special Order Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: Mt Airy, MD Posts: 85,863	Re: my 68 GMC (with questions) Bed type is in the model#, 6th and 7th digits (7th & 8th on '72). 04 is Fenderside/Stepside and 34 is Wideside/Fleetside. 03 would be cab & chassis. __________________ "BUILDING A BETTER WAY TO SERVE THE USA"......67/72......"The New Breed" GMC '67 C1500 Wideside Super Custom SWB: 327/M22/3.42 posi.........."The '67" (project) GMC '72 K2500 Wideside Sierra Custom Camper: 350/TH350/4.10 Power-Lok..."The '72" (rolling) Tim "Don't call me a redneck. I'm a rough cut country gentleman" R.I.P. ~ East Side Low Life ~ El Jay ~ 72BLUZ ~ Fasteddie69 ~ Ron586 ~ 67ChevyRedneck ~ Grumpy Old Man ~ Last edited by special-K; 01-17-2019 at 09:37 AM. Reason: typos

01-16-2019, 10:11 PM	#11
hugger6933 Registered User Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: Marianna Arkansas Posts: 7,257	Re: my 68 GMC (with questions) Your paperwork says body side moulding. That would eliminate stepside.

01-17-2019, 10:50 AM	#14
dagnabbitt Senior Member Join Date: Dec 2014 Location: Edmonton Alberta Posts: 1,302	Re: my 68 GMC (with questions) While the VIN does indicate it is a wide (fleet) side, I don't know that the VIN indicate wheelbase on their own without the model number. If the original poster has looked at the frame and has found no evidence of cutting and welding, it is likely a true shortbox, which would be good enough for me, its a nice truck. If you suspect that frame has been swapped, VIN might be on top of the front frame rail by the steering box. Sharing, below, my own 1970 Canadian built info. Attached Images __________________ DAVE Edmonton, Alberta 1959 Apache 1967 K20 1968 C20 1970 C10 1972 GMC 2500 1981 C10 Last edited by dagnabbitt; 01-17-2019 at 11:06 AM.

01-17-2019, 11:14 AM	#15
special-K Special Order Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: Mt Airy, MD Posts: 85,863	Re: my 68 GMC (with questions) Could be a frame swap. __________________ "BUILDING A BETTER WAY TO SERVE THE USA"......67/72......"The New Breed" GMC '67 C1500 Wideside Super Custom SWB: 327/M22/3.42 posi.........."The '67" (project) GMC '72 K2500 Wideside Sierra Custom Camper: 350/TH350/4.10 Power-Lok..."The '72" (rolling) Tim "Don't call me a redneck. I'm a rough cut country gentleman" R.I.P. ~ East Side Low Life ~ El Jay ~ 72BLUZ ~ Fasteddie69 ~ Ron586 ~ 67ChevyRedneck ~ Grumpy Old Man ~

01-18-2019, 01:27 PM	#16
bb400ho Active Member Join Date: Jun 2017 Location: erie pa Posts: 150	Re: my 68 GMC (with questions) i found this paperwork with the model number i cant tell if it says 57 or 59 also on the vin plate does anyone know what the DD means? Attached Images

01-18-2019, 01:48 PM	#17
HO455 Post Whore Join Date: Feb 2016 Location: Portland Oregon Posts: 10,803	Re: my 68 GMC (with questions) Daily driver? __________________ Thanks to Bob and Jeanie and everyone else at Superior Performance for all their great help. RIP Bob Parks. 1967 Burban the WMB,1991 S(stink)-10 Blazer,1969 GTO, 1970 Javelin, 1952 F2 Ford 4X4, 29 Model A, 72 Firebird. 85 Alfa Romeo If it breaks I didn't want it in the first place The WMB repair thread http://67-72chevytrucks.com/vboard/s...d.php?t=698377

01-18-2019, 03:14 PM	#18
dagnabbitt Senior Member Join Date: Dec 2014 Location: Edmonton Alberta Posts: 1,302	Re: my 68 GMC (with questions) You need a magnifying glass! Whether that is a 7 or 9 is interesting. I don't know what the DD would be, it might be a day of the month or the week code. Never thought about it much. Attached Images __________________ DAVE Edmonton, Alberta 1959 Apache 1967 K20 1968 C20 1970 C10 1972 GMC 2500 1981 C10

01-18-2019, 04:50 PM	#19
dfwright Registered User Join Date: Jan 2009 Location: San Antonio, Texas Posts: 1,374	Re: my 68 GMC (with questions) Looks like it's a nine in the model number. It looks like all the other 9's on that page, and not like any of the 7's __________________ 1972 C10 LWB, 350/350 Deconstruction began 5/2009, mostly completed restoration, 5/2017

01-21-2019, 05:26 PM	#20
bb400ho Active Member Join Date: Jun 2017 Location: erie pa Posts: 150	Re: my 68 GMC (with questions) i looked up the op's name on facebook. he passed away in 2002. the first person i reached out to ended up being his daughter. here is her response to a couple of questions Yes the roof was white. I had forgotten that. Oh wow! My dad loved that truck so much and babied it. Kinda makes me said it looks like that now. I’d like to see pics when you get it done. It has always been a short bed, yes.



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