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Old 04-30-2002, 09:44 PM   #1
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Post Painting Frame, what paint to use?

i know this comes up alot, what paint do i use for my frame, i am getting it blasted and i want a durable shiny black paint to paint it with, VHT chassis black?, i was told this was a good paint, just curious to what yall used?i will be spraying it myself with a hvlp spray gun, will it spray, or will i have to reduce it?
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Old 04-30-2002, 11:36 PM   #2
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Your best bet would go to an auto paint store and get some black enamel, or a chassis paint. This way you could get about a gallon in bulk and save some money.

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Old 04-30-2002, 11:59 PM   #3
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first spray it with epoxy primer, then with a single stage urethane black. It will be really durable. You won't need to sand the primer as long as you paint it within the time window (usually 7 days).
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Old 05-01-2002, 01:08 AM   #4
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If you are doing a frame up, try this. Steam clean all parts, scrub with solvent, apply a metal etcher, sand blast. Priner with and epoxy primer. For the finish coat use "Emron" (not sure of the spelling)paint. Emrom is a very caustic paint, use a mask. Have used this on my Corvette race cars, last forever, even brake fluid will not damage or peal this paint.

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Old 05-01-2002, 01:58 AM   #5
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por-15,, lot of guys here tell me to use it says it rock hard and looks good.check out the web site for the www.por-15.com I think it is. Think I'll use it. Starting the frame off job myself.
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Old 05-01-2002, 04:56 AM   #6
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I just painted my frame with por-15 and it does come out nice but I would recomend spraying it instead of brushing it. Also they are not lying about getting this paint off your hands. It doesnt wash off. You have to wear it off.

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Old 05-01-2002, 08:11 AM   #7
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Be very careful indeed if you use Imron. Use a fresh air system rather than a mask even when mixing it.
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Old 05-01-2002, 08:34 AM   #8
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I went with POR-15. I was more interested in rust prevention than beauty. A shiny, perfectly painted frame is a thing of beauty, but unless your building a trailer queen, how long will it stay that way? The first time I got caught out in the rain, it would look like every other frame on the road.

I wouldn't sand blast before using POR-15 as it actually needs a little rust for proper adhesion. If you're going to put it on bare metal, you need to apply an etching material first. If you spray it, you need to wear an organic vapor particulate respirator.

Here's my frame after applying POR-15 with a brush:



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Old 05-01-2002, 10:01 AM   #9
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I used GM Resto Black over red oxide primer, turned out great. You can get a gallon of it for around $35. It's that egg shell black that looks factory.

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Old 05-01-2002, 10:10 AM   #10
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Just finished sandblasting to bare metal and putting two coats of por-15 on mine. Going to wet sand and top coat soon. Looks great. I would use a sprayer. GIves a little more even coat.

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Old 05-01-2002, 10:59 AM   #11
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Try Eastwood Rust encapsulator with Chassis Black on top. www.eastwoodcompany.com I have heard good things about this stuff and am applying it to my frame this weekend.
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Old 05-01-2002, 11:09 AM   #12
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I am going to affordable way. I will be using a wire wheel on my grinder to buff the rust off, spray it with a metal primer (red oxide) And then rattle can with some Rustoleum or Tremclad black.

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Old 05-01-2002, 12:55 PM   #13
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anyone try 'zerorust'
I purchased some spray cans (black) from
their website www.zerorust.com
The stuff goes on nicely and dries to a
very durable satin black. I am going to
have my frame sandblasted very soon and
have been thinking of using this stuff,
should be very easy to touch up.
I painted my entire front end components
with POR-15 and it looks great, brushed it
on, those warnings about how toxic POR-15
had me a little scared to even think about
spraying it on. another note about POR-15,
is states on the can to recoat within 3-5hrs
or else you should scuff it up and apply
their top coat paint...this seems like it
might be difficult to touch up down the road
if need be. Anyway, my thoughts are to
clean up the frame with sandblasting, give it
one coat of the red oxide color and come back with a second coat of the black.
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Old 05-01-2002, 01:02 PM   #14
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I used Rustoleum Rusty Metal primer on mine after sand blasting it. then painted it with flat black and smoke gray rustoleum. I'm not sure how well it will hold up though cause I havn't had it on the road yet.

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Old 05-01-2002, 01:11 PM   #15
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You could try this wire brush or sand blast..primer, then spray it with epoxy paint you can pick it up at a hard ware store.. I used this on my 69... on the core support, head light rings, & the frame it is the same stuff they use on washers&dryers..& fridges.... I have dropped thies part, knocked them off benches & non of them ever chipped...it does a great job & is glossy it sprays great ....I never had 1 run or sag...

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Old 05-01-2002, 08:50 PM   #16
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Go Por-15 all the way. The stuff a tough clean-up, but their claims of being "hammer tough" are true all the way. I pressure washed my frame, cleaned it with solvent, and applied two coats of por-15 with a brush. I looks great and you don't see any brush marks.

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I tried POR-15. I scrubbed most of the frame spotless then solvent cleaned it and brushed on 3 coats. Looked good for almost a year, after which the stuff just pulled off in sheets. I think I over prepped the surface because it stuck well to the hard to clean spots. If you go that route, be aware that it can be finicky about prep (both too much & too little).

Be *very* careful if you spray it, it's hardened with isocyanates just like Imron (and other urethanes) so you should have a supplied-air respirator.
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Old 05-01-2002, 11:41 PM   #18
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I use Hammerite Rust Cap. It is extremely hard when cured and is UV proof. It was designed for outdoor rod iron fences and steel yard furnature so it has proven itself for many years. I have had it on a frame that has sat outside in the weather for almost 4 years and it looks great still. You can buy it at your local hardware store also. It cost about $11.00 a pint here. WES www.ClassicHeartbeat.com

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Guess you've seen just about every possible recommendation from your fellow forum members, which is good!
I'd like to simply followup on Bubbagreen's comments that he'd tried Zero Rust on his project and has also used POR products.
Take a look at a side-by-side test of these two products on an ocean going rig by going to:
http://zerorust.com/aubodystorepics.htm which test Len Stuart of www.autobodystore.com did to satisfy himself and his many forum members as to the ability of ZR to withstand some nasty conditions.
ZR's Ease of use, inexpensive, aerosols or bulk, can be brushed, rolled or sprayed, UNLIMITED shelf life, No Isocyanates to complicate your life, 2000+ hour salt spray cabinet test results and most importantly for DIYer's who don't have ownership of the latest & greatest shop equipment, it is not finicky as to the amount of prep work required. Neither do you need to suit up with a fresh air supplied paint suit to protect yourself as one should do when spraying most if not all two component paints and the POR products as they DO contain Isocyanates!
There's also a product review that John Milliman wrote up some months ago on his stovebolt site at:
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Old 01-03-2003, 08:50 PM   #20
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Wes is right!! I used Hammrite on the frame of my gto and a bunch of small parts. Its sat outside for a year, After i cleaned all the dirt off, it looked like brand new!
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Old 01-03-2003, 08:53 PM   #21
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not that their is a right answer to this question, but hammerite works very good.
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Old 01-03-2003, 09:06 PM   #22
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Mine isn't a frame off, but I am wire wheel/brushing it. Using a rust encapselation. then I'll be doing glossblack rustolium. Like Johnnyp said, if its a driver, I'd worry more about protection and durability, then the slick look.
Mine is getting the economy man's treatment until it's day of frameuping....many moons from now I hope.
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Old 01-03-2003, 11:19 PM   #23
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I used hammerite on my streetrod after cleaning well and lightly blasting some and wire brushing some. It is 4 years old now and still looks great..Thats if you are willing to get underneath and spend hours cleaning the frame after each time you get caught in the rain. I will be using it again on my 64
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