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Old 03-14-2017, 06:36 AM   #1
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Re: Complete build change. Lifted 2wd

Looking good, how much of a lift will this have ?
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Old 03-14-2017, 11:25 AM   #2
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Looking good, how much of a lift will this have ?
Ive read that by going to the late model 73-87 cross member and suspension you gain an inch. So if thats true, with that plus the 4" lift spindle itll be around 5" total. My bumper sits about 27" right now but doesn't have the weight of the cab or front end on it yet and is running smaller tires than i will end up with.
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Old 03-13-2017, 11:53 PM   #3
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I'm liking the stance! What year control arms spindles and rotors did you use? All people told me to do to lift my c20 is get one ton springs.
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Old 03-14-2017, 11:23 AM   #4
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I'm liking the stance! What year control arms spindles and rotors did you use? All people told me to do to lift my c20 is get one ton springs.
Thanks! that was the common until a board member found a way to put 88-98 chevy lift spindles on. It requires 1967-87 3/4 ton lower control arms, 88-98 upper and lower ball joints, 88-98 spindles, bearings, rotors, calipers etc...and if you plan to run a sway bar, the tie rods have to be moved to the top of the spindle but keep in mind what wheels you're running as this puts the tie rod really close to the lip.
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Old 03-15-2017, 11:35 PM   #5
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Thanks! that was the common until a board member found a way to put 88-98 chevy lift spindles on. It requires 1967-87 3/4 ton lower control arms, 88-98 upper and lower ball joints, 88-98 spindles, bearings, rotors, calipers etc...and if you plan to run a sway bar, the tie rods have to be moved to the top of the spindle but keep in mind what wheels you're running as this puts the tie rod really close to the lip.
Cool thanks....so you are running a 73-87 cross member and control arms I read in your last post? You think a 78 G20 van cross member would give the same results as the 73-87 truck cross member? Just about identical
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Old 03-16-2017, 08:48 AM   #6
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Re: Complete build change. Lifted 2wd

Cool build! I'm strictly a member of the drop spindle crowd and didn't even realize they made lift spindles like that. Looking forward to seeing how this thing turns out.
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Old 03-16-2017, 04:17 PM   #7
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Cool thanks....so you are running a 73-87 cross member and control arms I read in your last post? You think a 78 G20 van cross member would give the same results as the 73-87 truck cross member? Just about identical
Yes i swapped the whole cross member to a late model 73-87. I believe the van suspension should be the same. Only thing i can think of is the steering box is not the same but other than that i believe the front cross member is identical. Might wanna double check though. Do you have access to a van or what would be the reason not to use the truck cross member?

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Cool build! I'm strictly a member of the drop spindle crowd and didn't even realize they made lift spindles like that. Looking forward to seeing how this thing turns out.
Gettin exciting. gonna be swapping the body over soon so i can actually see how tall it sits.
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Re: Complete build change. Lifted 2wd

Sweet build,will keep following this one
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Old 04-04-2017, 12:47 PM   #9
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So somehow my photo bucket deleted most the pics in this thread so im gonna repost them to keep this build thread up to date and request an admin delete the past posts.

Been a slow progression. But still moving forward. Got some goodies from Summit Racing for the LS swap. Poly motor mounts, some poly grease for the suspension, the clams needed for the motor mounts and a Heli Coil kit
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Heli Coil installed in the head, worked out really well.
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Opening up the motor more, its greasy outside but seems pretty clean inside. Going to Replace the oil pickup O-Ring while im inside the motor. Dealer was closed so that will have to be this week sometime.
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Old 04-04-2017, 12:53 PM   #10
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the electronic speedo is a lot of work, but you will not regret it!!
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Old 04-04-2017, 01:04 PM   #11
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Re: Complete build change. Lifted 2wd

Springs hung easily and the new bushings from DayStar are working out pretty well. Axle rolled into place. Using the stock axle saddles and u bolts for mock up. They are going to be replaced before its ever driven. Need the rear end in and body mounted and motor in so i know what size lift blocks i will need to match the front lift.
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Was excited to see how it sat, so we worked on gettin it on four wheels. An unexpected issue came up. By moving the Tie rod to the top of the spindle it now hits on the back of the stock 17's that i have. So i have a dilemma, either get different wheels or run a spacer.
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It started to pour rain again, so that was the end of the weekend.
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Old 04-04-2017, 01:30 PM   #12
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Re: Complete build change. Lifted 2wd

Little update. Got a lot done this weekend. Started out by completely resealing the 5.3 thats goin in. Cleaned up pretty well so hopefully no leaks.
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Worked on getting the motor mount plates modified so i can keep the AC in the factory position. Cut the plate and taped some new holes and moved the motor clam shell back. only concern here is it looks fairly tight for the AC wiring however the clam can be modified if needed but i dont think it will be an issue.
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We were finally able to roll the frame up to the front of the yard to work on it. MUCH better than walking back and forth. Still need to finish cleaning the center but that will be done soon.
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Set the motor and attached the transmission so everything could be located together where it needed to be so we could finish mocking up the motor mounts
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We opted to move the hole motor mount back on the passenger side instead of adding a tab to it for the rubber mount to sit on. This requires us to add an small extension to the cross member but it will look much cleaner when done I think and it allows plenty of clearance for the AC compressor.
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Old 04-04-2017, 01:43 PM   #14
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I got over the Air ride pretty quick so the truck has been sitting for a while tucked away in my backyard. Its time to move it so we can start swapping parts over. The motor has always ran pretty well and hasn't really left me stuck recently BUT from sitting the battery was toast, so i thought. Left it on the charger and it actually held a good charge. Win.
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Had to do a fuel pump before it could be pulled out. From sitting the seal must have gone bad and it was pouring gas everywhere and even though it is only about a 5 mile drive i didnt feel it was worth catching it on fire. 20 bucks to drive it 5 miles
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I insisted my brother be the one to drive it to his house since he helped me bag it and has never once driven it. So i felt like he had to since it was the last time it would cruise as a bagged vehicle.
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the electronic speedo is a lot of work, but you will not regret it!!
Im thinkin your right, it'll be worth it. Hoping it wont be too bad though haha have you done it? if so how many hours would you guess it took
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Im thinkin your right, it'll be worth it. Hoping it wont be too bad though haha have you done it? if so how many hours would you guess it took
Yes, I did it. It depends if you bought the plate to mount the speedometer, or if you build one. I built mine, and of actual work working just on the speedometer, I think I have about 12-15 hours, trying to make everything perfect (I'm a perfectionist). If you bought the bracket, it would cut down on probably about 3 hours not having to do a little bit of trial and error to make everything fit correctly, not to mention I think the plate would make for a better finished product.
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Yes, I did it. It depends if you bought the plate to mount the speedometer, or if you build one. I built mine, and of actual work working just on the speedometer, I think I have about 12-15 hours, trying to make everything perfect (I'm a perfectionist). If you bought the bracket, it would cut down on probably about 3 hours not having to do a little bit of trial and error to make everything fit correctly, not to mention I think the plate would make for a better finished product.
Wow that sounds like a ton of work. I did buy the plate and box from Captianfab on here so hopefully that cuts down on the install time.
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Wow that sounds like a ton of work. I did buy the plate and box from Captianfab on here so hopefully that cuts down on the install time.
It definitely is! And I know for a fact that buying that plate will save on install time, at least 3 hours of my install time was making that plate, and doing little modifications so it would fit like I wanted it to.
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I can't wait to see this done! Bad ass
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Awesome project!!!
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What's the height from the bottom of the fender to the ground?
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What's the height from the bottom of the fender to the ground?
I didn't measure it when i had it sitting on the frame. I will get a measurement next time we set it on.
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Looking good, excellent job on the brake lines.
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Looking good, excellent job on the brake lines.
Thank you Im happy with how they turned out!
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