The 1947 - Present Chevrolet & GMC Truck Message Board Network







Register or Log In To remove these advertisements.

Go Back   The 1947 - Present Chevrolet & GMC Truck Message Board Network > 47 - Current classic GM Trucks > The 1967 - 1972 Chevrolet & GMC Pickups Message Board

Web 67-72chevytrucks.com


Reply
 
Thread Tools Display Modes
Old 02-15-2017, 03:16 PM   #1
demian5
Registered User
 
demian5's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2016
Location: Lake Forest, CA
Posts: 2,177
Bummer uncovered

So my dash had vinyl covering the dash pad all the way to the bottom of the windshield. I bought a new brown (saddle) dash pad as I plan on changing the color over on my interior.

This is what I found when pulling the vinyl and padding off...

Yes, one on each side, covered with aluminum and aluminum ducting tape...
Attached Images
  
__________________
"Work hard, use your vacation days."
1970 C15 GMC Long Bed
1986 C20 Scottsdale
1983 K2500 Sierra Classic Suburban 6.2
Instagram: C10sofOC
demian5 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 02-15-2017, 03:22 PM   #2
Coley
Registered User
 
Coley's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2011
Location: Victoria, B.C
Posts: 3,794
Re: Bummer uncovered

Yikes....looks like a previous owner wanted a set of 6x9's in the front dash.
did it mess up the defrost vents or are they still intact?

C
__________________
....for some men, there is experience, skill and effort....for the others...there is visa and UPS LOL
1966 Chevy 1/2 ton (Florida- Red/white)
1972 Chevy 1/2 ton (California- Blue/white)
2005 Chevy Silverado HD2500/Duramax
2000 Dodge Ram 1500
Coley is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 02-15-2017, 04:05 PM   #3
Stocker
20' Daredevil (Ret)
 
Stocker's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2003
Location: Jefferson State
Posts: 13,488
Re: Bummer uncovered

What's the plan now? Patch up the holes, or install new 6x9s and enjoy better-than-stock sound, or.....?
__________________
- Mike -

1972 K20 LWB 350/350/205

RIP El Jay
Stocker is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 02-15-2017, 04:24 PM   #4
Andy4639
Old member
 
Andy4639's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2002
Location: Liberty, & Garden City S.C. , U.S.
Posts: 19,936
Talking Re: Bummer uncovered

Quote:
Originally Posted by demian5 View Post
So my dash had vinyl covering the dash pad all the way to the bottom of the windshield. I bought a new brown (saddle) dash pad as I plan on changing the color over on my interior.

This is what I found when pulling the vinyl and padding off...

Yes, one on each side, covered with aluminum and aluminum ducting tape...
I have always wanted dash speakers in my truck but I want them over towards each side further. Don't want that big of a speaker either!
__________________
1971 LWB Custom, 6.0LS & 4L80E, Speedhut.com GPS speedometer & gauges with A/C. 20" Boss 338's Grey wheels 4 wheel disc brakes. My Driver
Seeing the USA in a 71


Upstate SC GM Truck Club
2013,14 and 2016 Hot Rod Pour Tour


http://upstategmtrucks.com/



Get out and drive the truck this summer and have some fun!
It sucks not being able to hear!

LWB trucks rule, if you don't think so measure your SWB!
After talking to tech support at Air Lift I have found out that the kit I need is 60811. Per the measurements I gave them. Ride height of truck inside spring and inside diameter of springs.
Andy4639 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 02-15-2017, 05:27 PM   #5
LongBox
Registered User
 
Join Date: Sep 2016
Location: Vancouver BC
Posts: 784
Re: Bummer uncovered

Fixing that looks like taking the windshield out, and having patches welded in. Lot of work. Sorry to see this situation.
__________________
Rick

-69 GMC 910 Long Box, 350
-98 Chev Silverado 1500, 350 Vortec 4L60e
-08 Mustang GT Convertible
LongBox is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 02-15-2017, 08:14 PM   #6
demian5
Registered User
 
demian5's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2016
Location: Lake Forest, CA
Posts: 2,177
Re: Bummer uncovered

It was such a bummer to find.

Well, they are 4x6 holes and the defroster and center speaker vents are OK and intact.

My plan is to cover them back up with the aluminum and the aluminum duct tape, then while the pad is off, have someone install thick flat black vinyl wrap over it (like used on outsides of cars) that way the speaker grille and defroster vent holes will all be ok and usable.

I figured:
1. That matte gold will be hard to color match with paint after all the welding and body work are complete.
2. Thick material will hopefully hide imperfections.
3. I don't want to disassemble the dash and pull the windshield just for this.

Also, I want to add a pair of 4" round speakers under the grille while in here.
__________________
"Work hard, use your vacation days."
1970 C15 GMC Long Bed
1986 C20 Scottsdale
1983 K2500 Sierra Classic Suburban 6.2
Instagram: C10sofOC
demian5 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 02-16-2017, 12:12 AM   #7
CG
BlahBlahBlah
 
Join Date: Feb 2002
Location: Monroe, Wa.
Posts: 19,736
Re: Bummer uncovered

Why not find some thin 6x9 speaker covers. Paint em the same color as the dash, Im assuming semi glossish black for the metal part. Maybe put some speaker cloth down (or even cut up a black t-shirt) first so you cant see all the way through if you are staring down outside the windshield.

Make it look good, uniform. No need to put actual speaker in there if you don't want to.
__________________
… … … … … … … … ... … … … … … … … … … … …

Monroe Swap meet May 18-19.
Mike has the same spots for the NW guys he's had forever.
Lunch time BBQ at the spaces.
If you have stuff to sell bring it along.

If you have a question PM stllookn (Mike) here via the board.


https://67-72chevytrucks.com/vboard/...d.php?t=851291
CG is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 02-16-2017, 01:39 AM   #8
El Dorado Jim
Registered User
 
Join Date: Dec 2009
Location: El Dorado Ca
Posts: 3,374
Re: Bummer uncovered

Quote:
Originally Posted by demian5 View Post
It was such a bummer to find.

Well, they are 4x6 holes and the defroster and center speaker vents are OK and intact.

My plan is to cover them back up with the aluminum and the aluminum duct tape, then while the pad is off, have someone install thick flat black vinyl wrap over it (like used on outsides of cars) that way the speaker grille and defroster vent holes will all be ok and usable.

I figured:
1. That matte gold will be hard to color match with paint after all the welding and body work are complete.
2. Thick material will hopefully hide imperfections.
3. I don't want to disassemble the dash and pull the windshield just for this.

Also, I want to add a pair of 4" round speakers under the grille while in here.
you can cover the holes with whatever and get a carpet dash cover to hide it...I am putting a new pad in mine and have a carpet dash cover to protect the new pad..
El Dorado Jim is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 02-16-2017, 07:50 AM   #9
James the III
Registered User
 
Join Date: Nov 2016
Location: lowell ma
Posts: 750
Re: Bummer uncovered

If it was mine I'd install a nice set of 2 way 4x6 plate speakers.. allowing stereo separation that the dual center speaker set up's don't give you..
paint the speaker grills to match the dash color and call it good..
James the III is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 02-16-2017, 08:29 AM   #10
Andy4639
Old member
 
Andy4639's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2002
Location: Liberty, & Garden City S.C. , U.S.
Posts: 19,936
Talking Re: Bummer uncovered

I guess it's time for someone to step up and make a replacement panel for these truck dashes. Like the radio replacement pieces. It's a big deal on a cut dash for the radio but not the top side I guess!
__________________
1971 LWB Custom, 6.0LS & 4L80E, Speedhut.com GPS speedometer & gauges with A/C. 20" Boss 338's Grey wheels 4 wheel disc brakes. My Driver
Seeing the USA in a 71


Upstate SC GM Truck Club
2013,14 and 2016 Hot Rod Pour Tour


http://upstategmtrucks.com/



Get out and drive the truck this summer and have some fun!
It sucks not being able to hear!

LWB trucks rule, if you don't think so measure your SWB!
After talking to tech support at Air Lift I have found out that the kit I need is 60811. Per the measurements I gave them. Ride height of truck inside spring and inside diameter of springs.
Andy4639 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 02-16-2017, 09:31 AM   #11
67ChevyRedneck
Hittin E-Z Street on Mud Tires
 
67ChevyRedneck's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2004
Location: Greenville, SC
Posts: 23,090
Re: Bummer uncovered

What I'm interested in are the stickers... they look almost "new", are they repo's?

It says contestant in the NHRA winter nationals in '83... it was still a fairly new truck then, is there a lot of "customization" done to the truck?

As for the hole, that's going to be tough to replace with the windshield in.
__________________
Jesse James
1967 C10 SWB Stepside: 350/700R4/3.73
1965 Ford Mustang: 289/T5-5spd/3.25 Trac-Loc
1968 Pontiac Firebird: Project Fire Chicken!
2015 Silverado Double Cab 5.3L Z71
2001 Jeep Wrangler Sport 4.0L 5spd
2020 Chevrolet Equinox Premium 2.0L Turbo
2011 Mustang V6 ~ Wife's ride
American Born, Country by the Grace of God
1967 CST Shop Truck Rebuild!
My 1967 C-10 Build Thread
My Vintage Air A/C Install
Project "On a Dime"
Trying my hand at Home Renovation!
1965 Mustang Modifications!
67ChevyRedneck is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 02-16-2017, 09:39 AM   #12
James the III
Registered User
 
Join Date: Nov 2016
Location: lowell ma
Posts: 750
Re: Bummer uncovered

Quote:
Originally Posted by 67ChevyRedneck View Post
What I'm interested in are the stickers... they look almost "new", are they repo's?

It says contestant in the NHRA winter nationals in '83... it was still a fairly new truck then, is there a lot of "customization" done to the truck?

As for the hole, that's going to be tough to replace with the windshield in.
maybe the holes where from a rollbar

stickers don't fade when vehicle sits in a shop or trailer..
but they do look mighty new..
James the III is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 02-16-2017, 12:32 PM   #13
Overdriven
Registered User
 
Join Date: Mar 2016
Location: Long Island NY
Posts: 598
Re: Bummer uncovered

Unless you're going to have a new piece of metal go accross the entire dash you're probably still going to see seams and such with vinyl wrap material. I've had good luck using vinyl upholstery material on package trays/shelfs that were patched as it's thicker and hides imperfections better.

If it was me I'd consider putting speakers in the holes. Mount the speakers from under the dash so only the screws are on top of the dash and make new speaker grills. Use some 1/8 steel rod and bend it to the contour of the outer edge of the speaker, weld where the ends meet. Alternatively you can make something similar out of wood, sheets of plastic, etc. Spray some adhesive on the rings you just made and wrap them with speaker cloth. You can glue them down, glue some magnets to the rings to hold them down, or whatever else I'm not thinking of. Either way you now have a simple looking, low profile speaker grill that's way more attractive than what comes with most speakers these days.
Overdriven is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 02-16-2017, 12:34 PM   #14
demian5
Registered User
 
demian5's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2016
Location: Lake Forest, CA
Posts: 2,177
Re: Bummer uncovered

I have kick panel speakers and just want a clean dash. One thing I dislike is cutting up a car to put speakers in. There is always another way around it...

I have dual 4" in my impalas single dash speaker opening and they sound great.

The stickers are repops from a vendor at hot rod reunion. The goal is to make a period correct looking shop truck as I change things. It had a lecarra wheel and billet rear view mirror when I got it that were soon replaced with a corvette wood wheel and stock mirror.
__________________
"Work hard, use your vacation days."
1970 C15 GMC Long Bed
1986 C20 Scottsdale
1983 K2500 Sierra Classic Suburban 6.2
Instagram: C10sofOC
demian5 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 02-16-2017, 01:39 PM   #15
Overdriven
Registered User
 
Join Date: Mar 2016
Location: Long Island NY
Posts: 598
Re: Bummer uncovered

Quote:
Originally Posted by demian5 View Post
One thing I dislike is cutting up a car to put speakers in. There is always another way around it...
Couldn't agree more! Only thing worse than cutting holes for speakers is the hack jobs some do cutting the holes. You'd think they did it with a can opener in the dark.
Overdriven is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 02-16-2017, 03:40 PM   #16
67 chevelle
Registered User
 
67 chevelle's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2013
Location: WEST PALM FLORIDA
Posts: 1,174
Re: Bummer uncovered

you could panel bond some sheet metal there
__________________
68 Long Fleet , ly6 , turbo 350 , 3-5 drop , original paint , front discs
67 Small window , 7 foot bed , tweaked 6.0 LSX 2004R Medium Olive
58 Apache fleet , 235 , offy intake , dual exhaust , 4 on the floor , red/white
69 Long Fleet , Custom , 6.0, 4l60 , AC , Medium Olive
67 chevelle is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 02-16-2017, 06:16 PM   #17
ubtripn
Registered User
 
ubtripn's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2010
Location: Boise, ID
Posts: 1,280
Re: Bummer uncovered

Well his fix went un-noticed until you took it apart. Just a thought. You could use that dash pad carpet, a thin strip, cut holes in the pad for the defrosters and mount them over it. In black might work out.
ubtripn is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 02-21-2017, 09:24 AM   #18
James the III
Registered User
 
Join Date: Nov 2016
Location: lowell ma
Posts: 750
Re: Bummer uncovered

Quote:
Originally Posted by Overdriven View Post
Couldn't agree more! Only thing worse than cutting holes for speakers is the hack jobs some do cutting the holes. You'd think they did it with a can opener in the dark.
Many of the tools everyone can find cheap today were not avail. years ago..
Way to many forget this nugget
James the III is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 02-21-2017, 09:32 AM   #19
67ChevyRedneck
Hittin E-Z Street on Mud Tires
 
67ChevyRedneck's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2004
Location: Greenville, SC
Posts: 23,090
Re: Bummer uncovered

Quote:
Originally Posted by demian5 View Post
The stickers are repops from a vendor at hot rod reunion. The goal is to make a period correct looking shop truck as I change things.
Those are pretty cool!
__________________
Jesse James
1967 C10 SWB Stepside: 350/700R4/3.73
1965 Ford Mustang: 289/T5-5spd/3.25 Trac-Loc
1968 Pontiac Firebird: Project Fire Chicken!
2015 Silverado Double Cab 5.3L Z71
2001 Jeep Wrangler Sport 4.0L 5spd
2020 Chevrolet Equinox Premium 2.0L Turbo
2011 Mustang V6 ~ Wife's ride
American Born, Country by the Grace of God
1967 CST Shop Truck Rebuild!
My 1967 C-10 Build Thread
My Vintage Air A/C Install
Project "On a Dime"
Trying my hand at Home Renovation!
1965 Mustang Modifications!
67ChevyRedneck is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 03-09-2017, 04:23 PM   #20
demian5
Registered User
 
demian5's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2016
Location: Lake Forest, CA
Posts: 2,177
Re: Bummer uncovered

Well, until I can pull the windshield and weld it up right, here is what I did. A couple pieces of galvanized metal with double sided tape. It sat much more flush before the tape. And I needed tape for 2 reasons:
1. Ease of removal to properly repair at a later date.
2. less chance of rattle/vibration.

I'll spray the top of the dash satin black this weekend and put my new dash pad on.

I also got a new gauge bezel. I am considering painting the black part "Brown" (since it is a GMC) but not sure what color brown that would be. Any ideas?
Attached Images
  
__________________
"Work hard, use your vacation days."
1970 C15 GMC Long Bed
1986 C20 Scottsdale
1983 K2500 Sierra Classic Suburban 6.2
Instagram: C10sofOC
demian5 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 03-09-2017, 04:38 PM   #21
67ChevyRedneck
Hittin E-Z Street on Mud Tires
 
67ChevyRedneck's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2004
Location: Greenville, SC
Posts: 23,090
Re: Bummer uncovered

Wow, I totally misread your initial post, I thought they cut the original center speaker hole open, they cut one on each side of the dash and left the center one alone.
__________________
Jesse James
1967 C10 SWB Stepside: 350/700R4/3.73
1965 Ford Mustang: 289/T5-5spd/3.25 Trac-Loc
1968 Pontiac Firebird: Project Fire Chicken!
2015 Silverado Double Cab 5.3L Z71
2001 Jeep Wrangler Sport 4.0L 5spd
2020 Chevrolet Equinox Premium 2.0L Turbo
2011 Mustang V6 ~ Wife's ride
American Born, Country by the Grace of God
1967 CST Shop Truck Rebuild!
My 1967 C-10 Build Thread
My Vintage Air A/C Install
Project "On a Dime"
Trying my hand at Home Renovation!
1965 Mustang Modifications!
67ChevyRedneck is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 03-09-2017, 11:13 PM   #22
FirstOwner69
Senior Member
 
FirstOwner69's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2010
Location: Wisconsin & Arizona
Posts: 4,835
Re: Bummer uncovered

Quote:
Originally Posted by firedemon View Post
expensive option but way easier theres a thread on tmi dash pad on here somewhere
Exactly what I was thinking...

http://67-72chevytrucks.com/vboard/s...d.php?t=731165
FirstOwner69 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 03-10-2017, 08:04 AM   #23
James the III
Registered User
 
Join Date: Nov 2016
Location: lowell ma
Posts: 750
Re: Bummer uncovered

Quote:
Originally Posted by demian5 View Post
Well, until I can pull the windshield and weld it up right, here is what I did. A couple pieces of galvanized metal with double sided tape. It sat much more flush before the tape. And I needed tape for 2 reasons:
1. Ease of removal to properly repair at a later date.
2. less chance of rattle/vibration.

I'll spray the top of the dash satin black this weekend and put my new dash pad on.

I also got a new gauge bezel. I am considering painting the black part "Brown" (since it is a GMC) but not sure what color brown that would be. Any ideas?
I'd toss the metal..
and use maybe something like this.

one on 1 side





and this on the other



It not look out of place, and unless you tell someone no one will know they are covering holes.
James the III is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 03-10-2017, 10:07 AM   #24
midniteblues
Registered User
 
midniteblues's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2011
Location: strausstown pa
Posts: 3,394
Re: Bummer uncovered

Wow! That really blows.

You could make a peice of formica or similar shapeable material tinted lexan comes to mind.
Both materials can be had in all kinds of textures and colors.

You could slowly and carefully router in the oe pattern for the ducts and radio slots.

A peice of that cheap auto carpeting like the parts store sells,like the stuff they cover woofer boxes in.

Or you could try too epoxy in your patch plates from the bottom fill in and smooth out the top and vinyl wrap it.

I know its easier said than done but might not look bad at all.

Really not a bad idea too have speakers up there if you wanted a "system" so they call it.
I have some(dusty) new vintage radio shack speaker grills that would probably look ok on there.
but I see it's not what you want.

That dash pad looks to be the easiest best route though.
Attached Images
 
__________________
81 camaro 355 4/spd 342 posi my first love.
67 swb step 454/4spd ott 373 posi 4/7 drop.
2000 s10 zr2 little blue truck that never gets stuck.
'74 heald super bronc vt8. tecumseh powered moon rover.
midniteblues is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 03-14-2017, 12:37 PM   #25
demian5
Registered User
 
demian5's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2016
Location: Lake Forest, CA
Posts: 2,177
Re: Bummer uncovered

Here is how it turned out after painting.

The end results with the new dash pad are in this thread.

http://67-72chevytrucks.com/vboard/s...d.php?t=732767
Attached Images
 
__________________
"Work hard, use your vacation days."
1970 C15 GMC Long Bed
1986 C20 Scottsdale
1983 K2500 Sierra Classic Suburban 6.2
Instagram: C10sofOC
demian5 is offline   Reply With Quote
Reply

Bookmarks

Thread Tools
Display Modes

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off

Forum Jump


All times are GMT -4. The time now is 05:08 AM.


Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.11
Copyright ©2000 - 2024, vBulletin Solutions Inc.
Copyright 1997-2022 67-72chevytrucks.com