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Longhorn Al · 04-11-2002, 11:57 PM

Ok, I didn't really think you were referring to me. I just wanted to state that.

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1970 C-10 named HOSS
350/350, PS, PB, 3.07 gears
Future Motivation: 383 stroker, KB flat-top pistons, RPM intake and heads, 750cfm Edelbrock, & headers.
For pics of my truck go here: http://communities.msn.com/1970HOSS/shoebox.msnw?Page=1
Future Projects: 1969 Pontiac GTO and 1974 International Scout II

Hook 'Em from Austin, TEXAS

Dim · 04-12-2002, 12:01 AM

I haven't read all the posts but i just wanted to stand up for the gas stations. I'am sick and tired of hearing "why are the prices so high?" It almost makes me want to jump over the counter and start beating the guy. For some reason people get it into their minds that it's the partticular gas station that controls gas prices. I know for a fact that my gas station simply looks at what the Big Boys are selling their gas at and then we drop our about 0.015 less. (Canadian gas prices).
My city aprently has/had the highest gas prices in Canada (69.9/L). We drop ours to 64.9/L. And you would not believe the BS, us the little guys, have to put up with. If you want to fight the prices. Boycott the smaller stations Like Esso and so on, not all stations.

My $0.02,
D!m

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BlueStreak 69 Chevy C10 -
(Under Construction)
pos_8@hotmail.com

jku72 · 04-12-2002, 09:06 AM

I dont know, but I get 20 MPG from my 350 powered 68 suburban, it is not hard to get better gas mileage, even my 67 catalina got 21 MPG with a 400 cid non overdrive.
If we paid attention to mileage a little more, our demand would be less, and so would gas prices.
I am a cheapskate of the worst kind, and am looking towards buying a 55 mpg diesel VW soon. It is all priorities, I think running an efficient engine, one that makes reasonable horsepower, and then adding nitrous for when you need a boost is the logical solution.
The go-fast crowd has ignored the mileage crowd, but both can(sort of) coexist.
Variable electronic ignitions, low friction parts, and even things like variable lifters. etc.
Overdrive transmissions, and many other possibilities are often overlooked, and if incorporated, give better mileage than new cars, because the new ones are so restricted by exhaust and compression ratio.
The technology is there, why not use it.

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jku
70 C30 CST Longhorn
68k10 burb
69 K5 beater
43 willys GPW
40 Chev coupe
67 catalina

68 Suburban · 04-12-2002, 04:21 PM

jku72
I am interested in your set up to get 20 mpg in your Burb! That must be great!

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'72 Cheyenne Super · 04-13-2002, 12:15 AM

Just to clear the air (I've been away from the 'puter for a while), my comments were not directed specifically at you, 68 Suburban, but to all those who try to tell us that capitalism is bad, driving cars and polluting is bad, drilling for oil is bad, so on and so on. I don't care if gas does get to $5.00/gal., I can afford it, but that's not the point. (besides, my daily driver is a diesel, and diesel prices are a lot more stable than gas.) Why not get angry at the automakers for pumping out so many vehicles which creates a bigger demand for fuel, thus higher fuel prices? What about the DOT road planners that have their heads so far up their collective arses that they keep motorists in gridlock, burning up all that precious, expensive fuel while not going anywhere? There are a lot of factors that come into play here, but to ignore the fact that the GOVERNMENT makes more money off the sale of fuel than the Oil companies do, then trying to punish said oil companies for being profitable seems like a bit of misdirected frustration to me. The environmental movement, on the other hand, is just another stumbling block to exploration for more oil (which would bring prices down), and also helps to increase the taxes on fuel sales for misguided environmental concerns.

So, in closing, don't go thinking you were the target of a drive-by poster. You may accuse me of making unfounded, baseless arguments, but one could take your posts the same way. Truce?

nroden · 04-13-2002, 12:43 AM

I think its very possible to have powerful enough vehicles but yet efficient if people would do it.
Sad part is is that everytime an auto maker gets a efficient car made a gas company will buy the patent. You can look it up. You know how you always read of these new "thing of the future" efficient vehicles for years. Well look up the patents on most of them and they were bought by oil companies.
So what we need to do (I am guilty as most) is to do more efficient ignition, exhaust, carb, etc.
My $.02

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Nick Rodenberg
Wellington, MO
http://nickrod.port5.com
You can click on "My 72 Chevy Truck"
I have a 72 Cheyenne 10 with a V8 350 and a TH-350 auto-tranny.
White/Ochre/White
Runs well... working on body.
Hoping to have completed in March when I turn 16

70 Jimmy · 04-13-2002, 12:43 AM

Man, 68 Suburban, you've outdone yourself on this one. 54 posts on this topic and you didn't even start it. Just ribin' ya. I kinda agree that we shouldn't ***** too much. I drive to work every morning, look at the prices and stop at freakin' Starbucks and pay $1-$2 for a stupid cup of coffee. I'm addicted to coffee and gas hog Big Blocks! I'll find something else to ***** about... if and when I need to.

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"KEEP IT DOWN!"
70 Jimmy 454 2wd
56 GMC Big Window

68 Suburban · 04-13-2002, 02:05 AM

'72 Cheyenne Super,

Quote:

You may accuse me of making unfounded, baseless arguments, but one could take your posts the same way.

I can post information about anything I have said. I even did about the Chinese situation, but was told by someone they were not interested in reading it

If you would like me to post anything to back up what I have said, just name it and I will.

Why is there a need for a truce? I am not mad about anything. I have no problem with people having a different point of view than me. But if someone starts stating things as facts, please be prepared to back it up.

All is cool here

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[This message has been edited by 68 Suburban (edited April 13, 2002).]

68 Suburban · 04-13-2002, 02:10 AM

nroden

Quote:

Sad part is is that everytime an auto maker gets a efficient car made a gas company will buy the patent. You can look it up. You know how you always read of these new "thing of the future" efficient vehicles for years. Well look up the patents on most of them and they were bought by oil companies

I have heard about the famous "100 mpg" car that the oil companies put the cabash on. But I have never seen any proof. Please post a link to one of these inventions that the oil companies have bought.

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1963 Ford Falcon Wagon, FOR SALE
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for finding the 3rd door trim piece
and the small piece that goes on
the 1/4 panel right behind the
3rd door.

04-11-2002, 11:57 PM	#51
Longhorn Al Texas Longhorn For Life Join Date: Jun 2000 Location: Austin, Texas Posts: 698	Ok, I didn't really think you were referring to me. I just wanted to state that. ------------------ 1970 C-10 named HOSS 350/350, PS, PB, 3.07 gears Future Motivation: 383 stroker, KB flat-top pistons, RPM intake and heads, 750cfm Edelbrock, & headers. For pics of my truck go here: http://communities.msn.com/1970HOSS/shoebox.msnw?Page=1 Future Projects: 1969 Pontiac GTO and 1974 International Scout II Hook 'Em from Austin, TEXAS __________________ 1970 C-10 named HOSS 400SB/TH350, PS, PB, 3.07 gears \m/ Hook 'Em from Austin, TEXAS

04-12-2002, 12:01 AM	#52
Dim Tha Russian Canadian Join Date: Nov 2000 Location: Lethbridge, AB Posts: 358	I haven't read all the posts but i just wanted to stand up for the gas stations. I'am sick and tired of hearing "why are the prices so high?" It almost makes me want to jump over the counter and start beating the guy. For some reason people get it into their minds that it's the partticular gas station that controls gas prices. I know for a fact that my gas station simply looks at what the Big Boys are selling their gas at and then we drop our about 0.015 less. (Canadian gas prices). My city aprently has/had the highest gas prices in Canada (69.9/L). We drop ours to 64.9/L. And you would not believe the BS, us the little guys, have to put up with. If you want to fight the prices. Boycott the smaller stations Like Esso and so on, not all stations. My $0.02, D!m ------------------ BlueStreak 69 Chevy C10 - (Under Construction) pos_8@hotmail.com __________________ Dimitri Lethbridge, Alberta 69 Chevy C10 - (Under Construction) pos_8@hotmail.com

04-12-2002, 09:06 AM	#53
jku72 Registered User Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: cornville, maine Posts: 659	I dont know, but I get 20 MPG from my 350 powered 68 suburban, it is not hard to get better gas mileage, even my 67 catalina got 21 MPG with a 400 cid non overdrive. If we paid attention to mileage a little more, our demand would be less, and so would gas prices. I am a cheapskate of the worst kind, and am looking towards buying a 55 mpg diesel VW soon. It is all priorities, I think running an efficient engine, one that makes reasonable horsepower, and then adding nitrous for when you need a boost is the logical solution. The go-fast crowd has ignored the mileage crowd, but both can(sort of) coexist. Variable electronic ignitions, low friction parts, and even things like variable lifters. etc. Overdrive transmissions, and many other possibilities are often overlooked, and if incorporated, give better mileage than new cars, because the new ones are so restricted by exhaust and compression ratio. The technology is there, why not use it. ------------------ jku 70 C30 CST Longhorn 68k10 burb 69 K5 beater 43 willys GPW 40 Chev coupe 67 catalina __________________ jku Cornville, Maine 68 C10 burb 42 Willys MB 46 Dodge WF-32 1.5 ton 53 & 56 Olds' 60 Cadillac 22 Dodge Brothers

04-12-2002, 04:21 PM	#54
68 Suburban Registered User Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: From Chicago, Live in Phoenix, AZ Posts: 6,802	jku72 I am interested in your set up to get 20 mpg in your Burb! That must be great! ------------------ Check out other members trucks 1968 50th Anniversary C-10 Suburban (Tows all these cars all over the place) 1968 50th Anniversary C-10 Pickup 1968 50th Anniversary C-20 Pickup CST, FOR SALE 1969 SS Camaro Conv't 1960 Lakewood Travel Trailer 1963 Ford Falcon Wagon, FOR SALE 2000 Chevy Malibu (Suppose to be daily driver, but the Burb is) Phoenix, AZ. Click Here for Parts and Venicles I have Available THINGS I AM LOOKING FOR: 67-68 SUBURBAN TRIM. $$$$ Reward for finding the 3rd door trim piece and the small piece that goes on the 1/4 panel right behind the 3rd door. __________________ Just sitting here contemplating contemplation.

04-13-2002, 12:15 AM	#55
'72 Cheyenne Super Registered User Join Date: Feb 2002 Location: Puyallup, WA USA!! Posts: 85	Just to clear the air (I've been away from the 'puter for a while), my comments were not directed specifically at you, 68 Suburban, but to all those who try to tell us that capitalism is bad, driving cars and polluting is bad, drilling for oil is bad, so on and so on. I don't care if gas does get to $5.00/gal., I can afford it, but that's not the point. (besides, my daily driver is a diesel, and diesel prices are a lot more stable than gas.) Why not get angry at the automakers for pumping out so many vehicles which creates a bigger demand for fuel, thus higher fuel prices? What about the DOT road planners that have their heads so far up their collective arses that they keep motorists in gridlock, burning up all that precious, expensive fuel while not going anywhere? There are a lot of factors that come into play here, but to ignore the fact that the GOVERNMENT makes more money off the sale of fuel than the Oil companies do, then trying to punish said oil companies for being profitable seems like a bit of misdirected frustration to me. The environmental movement, on the other hand, is just another stumbling block to exploration for more oil (which would bring prices down), and also helps to increase the taxes on fuel sales for misguided environmental concerns. So, in closing, don't go thinking you were the target of a drive-by poster. You may accuse me of making unfounded, baseless arguments, but one could take your posts the same way. Truce? __________________ '72 Cheyenne Super 4x4, 468ci, 700R4, Import Stomper. A couple pics at http://www.picturetrail.com/gallery/view?p=6&uid=529895&

04-13-2002, 12:43 AM	#56
nroden Registered User Join Date: Jun 2001 Location: Springfield, MO Posts: 1,098	I think its very possible to have powerful enough vehicles but yet efficient if people would do it. Sad part is is that everytime an auto maker gets a efficient car made a gas company will buy the patent. You can look it up. You know how you always read of these new "thing of the future" efficient vehicles for years. Well look up the patents on most of them and they were bought by oil companies. So what we need to do (I am guilty as most) is to do more efficient ignition, exhaust, carb, etc. My $.02 ------------------ Nick Rodenberg Wellington, MO http://nickrod.port5.com You can click on "My 72 Chevy Truck" I have a 72 Cheyenne 10 with a V8 350 and a TH-350 auto-tranny. White/Ochre/White Runs well... working on body. Hoping to have completed in March when I turn 16 __________________ Nick Rodenberg 72 Cheyenne 10 V8 350/TH350 white/ochre/white/ochre, ochre/saddle interior Retired and in the dry... still runs. I now drive Red '01 Ford Focus... better MPG!!!

04-13-2002, 12:43 AM	#57
70 Jimmy aka Crusher, Crushergmc Join Date: Mar 2000 Location: Oregon Posts: 1,834	Man, 68 Suburban, you've outdone yourself on this one. 54 posts on this topic and you didn't even start it. Just ribin' ya. I kinda agree that we shouldn't *** too much. I drive to work every morning, look at the prices and stop at freakin' Starbucks and pay $1-$2 for a stupid cup of coffee. I'm addicted to coffee and gas hog Big Blocks! I'll find something else to *** about... if and when I need to. ------------------ "KEEP IT DOWN!" 70 Jimmy 454 2wd 56 GMC Big Window __________________ "KEEP IT DOWN!" 70 Jimmy 454 2wd 56 GMC Big Window "It's funny till someone gets hurt, then it's freakin' hilarious"



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