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Old 07-22-2018, 01:09 PM   #1
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Grill Guard from a 94 Dodge

I got a home made grill guard off a 94 Dodge and have to cut the end peces off and reweld them to the right angle. I was wondering what angle the hood/ front end is...
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Re: Grill giard from a 94 doge

Go get yourself a T-Bevel at Ace and figure it out. I don't think anyone is walking around with that number in their head.

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Old 07-22-2018, 09:13 PM   #3
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Go get yourself a T-Bevel at Ace and figure it out. I don't think anyone is walking around with that number in their head.

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Your probly right. I think i havea t bevel at the shop will have to look tomarrow.
I also decided to just noch the end peice and bend it to the angle with heat then weld the gap shut. So i gusse i dont need the angle anymore. I will just eye ball it
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Old 07-22-2018, 09:46 PM   #5
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Re: Grill Guard from a 94 Dodge

That's a killer brush guard.
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Re: Grill Guard from a 94 Dodge

Wish I'd had something like that in front of my '67 K/10 Suburban -- one dark night when a mule buck tried to jump in front of me doing 80 on a backroad near Tombstone. I had to swap out a whole grille for a '68, plus radiator, distributor, battery and smashed headlight damage.
It had a BBC 454 and vintage drum brakes.

Looks like you might get interference to the inboard Hi Beams from the vertical structure.
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Old 07-22-2018, 11:55 PM   #7
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Wish I'd had something like that in front of my '67 K/10 Suburban -- one dark night when a mule buck tried to jump in front of me doing 80 on a backroad near Tombstone. I had to swap out a whole grille for a '68, plus radiator, distributor, battery and smashed headlight damage.
It had a BBC 454 and vintage drum brakes.

Looks like you might get interference to the inboard Hi Beams from the vertical structure.
Sorry to here that. But it sound lick you fixed it up good. And how did it hurt the disributor? I see a lot a deer running around ( expecaly at night) so thats why i got it.
And the up rights are smack in the middle if the hight beam light. Would work better on a chevy
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That's a killer brush guard.
Thanks its made from 1/2 inch thick flat stock and sqare tubeing. It weighs 80+ pounds if had to ges
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Re: Grill Guard from a 94 Dodge

I think the factory grill guards were straight across. That's probably what I would do.
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I think the factory grill guards were straight across. That's probably what I would do.
They had a bend in the middle. If you make them strait across the ends stick out to far
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Re: Grill Guard from a 94 Dodge

Hers the one i made strait across with fence posts
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Re: Grill Guard from a 94 Dodge

This is a picture of blazermans grill gaurd you can see how much of a bend you need
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Sorry to here that. But it sound lick you fixed it up good. And how did it hurt the disributor? I see a lot a deer running around ( expecaly at night) so thats why i got it.
And the up rights are smack in the middle if the hight beam light. Would work better on a chevy
A bent shaft was suspected. It was turning funny. Maybe it was just an excuse to upgrade to HEI. I ran that truck hard for another 4 years. I was working locations all over the state [AZ]. After an engine/carb fire across the river in Glamis, Cal. in '98, I got towed home and have let it sit since.

Yes, it looks like it was designed for 7'' headlights, the 5.5'' quads are unhandy sometimes. [I have a '71 Jimmy, too.] But you could mount foglamps low on your rack and longthrow spots on the top rail to compensate for the hi-beam blockage. Have the spots on the Hi Beam circuit. You want to run low beams with foglamps. Hi Beams kick back too much glare in fog.
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A bent shaft was suspected. It was turning funny. Maybe it was just an excuse to upgrade to HEI. I ran that truck hard for another 4 years. I was working locations all over the state [AZ]. After an engine/carb fire across the river in Glamis, Cal. in '98, I got towed home and have let it sit since. That sucks how bad was the damage total loss or just the engin bay.

Yes, it looks like it was designed for 7'' headlights, the 5.5'' quads are unhandy sometimes. [I have a '71 Jimmy, too.] But you could mount foglamps low on your rack and longthrow spots on the top rail to compensate for the hi-beam blockage. Have the spots on the Hi Beam circuit. You want to run low beams with foglamps. Hi Beams kick back too much glare in fog.
that not good. I hope it can get back on the road after 20 years. I was born in 1998
i thout about somthing like. I think the long throw lights would be plenty. And just run low beams in fog. They work pritty good on thare own.
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If you live inland, then fog lights are mostly not necessary. The lower down they are mounted, like under your lower rail, the more effective they are. But if you're not living in a coastal or mountain area, they are just a show-off item. Especially the amber/yellow lensed ones.Something to light up when cruising into the drive-in on Saturday night to order double/double cheeseburgers animal style.
With the spots, the higher they're mounted the better.
On the '67 Sub, I had a pair of amber lamps mounted inside the front bumper. First I tried a '72 MY bumper, my Sears Roebuck fogs were rectangular, and looked like a good fit. The '67 Frame would not take the '72 bumper without modification. [Probably '72 bumper supports would've worked] but a friend who managed a chrome shop said he could cut rectangular holes in a '67/'68 bumper, if I'd get it chromed. The cut outs were free. Worked good after a machinist made some angled mounting cones out of billet aluminum to match the reverse slope of the inside bumper. Only flaw was they drew too much current. In heavy snow, [while skiing] with heater, wipers, headlights, fog lights, and amped stereo full blast, the 36 A alternater could not keep up and I stalled at a light from a drained battery.
Still it was fun. A bigger alternator was in the rebuild plan.

BTW. I'm the guy who voted for White, but actually, I think silver/aluminum spray paint would look better with your grille. If you had a '68 with a Whiteface look, [like the red truck in post #10] then a white cowcatcher would work. Black just looks like you welded on a piece of the front fence. The aluminum is easy to touch up once a year, if you mask off the grille.
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I live about as inland you can get south dakota. But fog lights in the bumper would be cool. But i would hate to cut up my new bumper. If i had one to mess with then i would put circle lights in it.

I did not think about silver. I could paint it silver and it i dont like it i could always repaint it a differnt color. I was leaning towred white becouse its period correct. The gaurd right now looks black in the picher but its aculy dark green.

I got the mounts from the frame made today. And noched the end pecise. Tomarrow i will get the torch out and heat it up and bend them out. Then next i have to weld the mount to the gaurd and bolt the mount to the fram and im done aside from paint.
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The bumper holes were cut in the Late '70s, when used parts for domestic trucks were rediculously cheap by today's standards. A used painted bumper was less that $20.
I bought my '68 C/10 Stepside in 1973, when my '61 Mercedes 190's 4 banger engine blew up [operator error]. I was tired of paying high prices for imported auto parts.
I first had the chromed custom-cut bumper and fog lamps on the pickup when I decided it pulled too much juice. I switched back to the white painted OEM bumper. I stashed the chrome unit. Years later, after whacking Bambi's Dad, I remembered I had it and it went on Old White Fang, the Suburban -- fogs and all. I still have a banana-shaped '67 white bumper, and a white GMC bumper with the curls under the grille parking lamps, that I got by mistake, before I had a GMC. Bumpers were dirt cheap. Fenders $25. Doors $50.
Tailgates & hoods $100. Then came the internet. By the late '90s Arizona was ''fished out'' of cheap clean sheet metal. All went North and east. In '99 I had to roadtrip to the Bay Area for Blazer parts. Now driving my Stepside downtown, I have to watch out for all the chollos eyeing my rig hungrily as a rolling fortune in rare spare parts still on the hoof.

Regarding your kangaroo-katcher: If you did some torch surgery and moved the main uprights inboard one strake, and build longer eye hoops -- maybe reinforcing them with a diagonal steel strap strut 45* from bottom to lower end -- you might make clearance for all the headlights. I notice the grill guard in post #10 has wide eye loops for any GM truck.
That may weaken the structure, though. I'm no metallurgist/engineer.
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Man i wish parts where that cheep. I had my old bumper but was used as a tow point befor i got it and got riped and bent up. One of the bolts that held it was ripped throw it. So i got a 67-70 chevy bumper of ebay, not bad quality ether.

It would be possible to move the up rights in and make larger hoops, but im doing this the lazest way i can. I can always go back and change it. After all its just steel.
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I never voted for color... Silver!
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Re: Grill Guard from a 94 Dodge

This is what it looks like with the ends heated and beaded. They are right whare i whant them. I think i need to rises it up somehow it just sits to low.
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Re: Grill Guard from a 94 Dodge

Heres the bend i made. Just need to weld it shut
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I never voted for color... Silver!
Looks like Silver is the leading candidate, and a Write-In, too.
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I going to paint it silver or aluminum color. If i dont like it i can change it. Sliver will look good tho
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Since you seem to have the metal working skills and equipment, it should not be too difficult of a job to narrow it by taking a section out of the center. that would pull the uprights inboard away from the hi beam lights and make the overall width more appropriate looking for your truck, imho.
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Since you seem to have the metal working skills and equipment, it should not be too difficult of a job to narrow it by taking a section out of the center. that would pull the uprights inboard away from the hi beam lights and make the overall width more appropriate looking for your truck, imho.
Your 100% right i could narrow it and in the future i might, but for now it will be fine.
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