LS1 swap. What oil pan did you use?

[abadsvt]

Thanks everyone for the help! I am making my own motor mounts since i have a tube frame that i built. The biggest problem i have is i needed to make sure the rear end off the c5 is centered in height and depth with the rear wheels. So since that was the most important part and the torque tube sits level it kind of dictates how high the motor is going to sit. Which is slightly lower than stock. I was hoping to see if i can look at the camaro oil pan in person and see how it is going to sit and look. The other thing is i have to lower the front round rails because i don't have enough clearance for the rack (actually i do but it is very close) so i might be able to make the corvette pan work but if not then i am definately going with the camaro pan. Do any of you see a problem with the slightly smaller quart capacity of the camaro pan? It is a 5-5.5qt vrs the corvette which is 6-6.5 qt.

Thanks Josh

[abadsvt]

Thanks for the pics 68 short step! That is exactly what i was looking for. Have a great day! And by the way. Nice looking setup!

[darrellyates]

The truck I'm building has an aftermarket frame (from Scott's). It requires an "F" body pan, or the camaro pan. It's got the shallowest (is that a word?) front, and yes, it's a 5.5 quart pan. As long as you're changing the oil, I don't think that's a big deal. I'm running it on the low HP 6.2/LS3; and the corvette pan that came on the crate motor didn't work either. I say corvette, it could be a cadillac pan, I'm not sure. Please realize I don't race the truck, so just remember that figures into my opinion here.

I had a truck pan on a previous build, which fit a factory frame (lowered) OK. The pan did hang below the cross member though. I wasn't in the weeds, so I was OK.

Guess it depends on your build. Summit has an "F" body pan kit, with the pan, tray, and pick up tube including gasket. Think it was slightly over $230? Don't really want to remember... Worked though. I agree that best idea is to stay with a GM pan.

With the frame I have, I also didn't have room for the factory exhaust headers. I went with a set of "shorty" headers on e-bay. They work fine but I had to go to 135 degree spark plug wires. I'm also running fire socks over the wires just for safety.

Good Luck with your build!!

[71Farmtruck]

Originally Posted by abadsvt

I got the motor on to my frame and i noticed that i am going to have to switch oil pans. I have a corvette motor and am thinking about switching to an F-body oil pan but wasn't sure if there are different f-body oil pans? I am looking for the shallowest one. I was looking at the alluminum race ones but wasn't sure if it is worth the money. Thanks and any comments are appreciated.

Josh

There is only one oil pan for the F-body.

[Hart_Rod]

Sorry to bring up an old thread, but it looks like I'm going to have to run a camaro pan on the Suburban. With the bags and dropped arms it's just going to be to low. I think the crewcab will probably be fine since the susupension is only lowered a couple of inches. Anyway, does anyone have one that one to sell or does anyone know the part # so I can start looking? OBTW, check out the new headers for the LS1 from Doug Thorley, . No clearance issues here, .


*** Edit: Ok, I'm an idiot, I see the part # now, . But at least I posted some cool pictures, . ***

[mahanian]

Originally Posted by Hart_Rod

Sorry to bring up an old thread, but it looks like I'm going to have to run a camaro pan on the Suburban. With the bags and dropped arms it's just going to be to low. I think the crewcab will probably be fine since the susupension is only lowered a couple of inches. Anyway, does anyone have one that one to sell or does anyone know the part # so I can start looking? OBTW, check out the new headers for the LS1 from Doug Thorley, . No clearance issues here, .

Hey Rob, did you figure out what motor mount you plan to use with the Camaro oil pan? Would you mind measuring the gap from your crossmember straight back to the part of the oil pan hanging behind the crossmember?

[Hart_Rod]

Originally Posted by mahanian

Hey Rob, did you figure out what motor mount you plan to use with the Camaro oil pan? Would you mind measuring the gap from your crossmember straight back to the part of the oil pan hanging behind the crossmember?

I'm using ECE motor mounts. I think there's about 3-4 inches from the crossmember to the truck pan. I think there will be plenty of room for the camaro pan. I'm recovering for surgery, so give me a couple of days to get some measurements.

[mahanian]

Originally Posted by Hart_Rod

I'm using ECE motor mounts. I think there's about 3-4 inches from the crossmember to the truck pan. I think there will be plenty of room for the camaro pan. I'm recovering for surgery, so give me a couple of days to get some measurements.

No hurry, hope everything went well with your surgery.

Searching through various threads on here and ls1tech.com, the concensus seems to be that the ECE motor mounts won't work with the camaro oil pan.

I knew you were using the ECE mounts and you were thinking about switching to the camaro oil pan, but I wasn't sure if you had researched it further. Judging by the image on post #21 of this thread, if there isn't more than 3 inches of gap between the truck oil pan and the crossmember, then the ECE motor mounts won't work with the camaro pan.

[shifty]

Hey Rob - more info on the headers, pls! Cost, part#, pics of the drivers side?

[68 short step]

hart rob check out the LH8 oil pan....

[Hart_Rod]

Originally Posted by shifty

Hey Rob - more info on the headers, pls! Cost, part#, pics of the drivers side?

I'm not sure about price or part #. This set is a prototype (I think he nailed it though, ). Pictures as requested. You can also check out the suburban or crewcab build.

Originally Posted by 68 short step

hart rob check out the LH8 oil pan....

Do you have a part number?

[jkade]

Good luck finding a fbody pan and if you do plan to spend over $200 for one. You might as well get it from gm. I got lucky and snatched one up off ls1.tech a few months ago for $160 but it was missing the tray, the truck tray can be modified to work though.

[71Farmtruck]

Originally Posted by jkade

Good luck finding a fbody pan and if you do plan to spend over $200 for one. You might as well get it from gm. I got lucky and snatched one up off ls1.tech a few months ago for $160 but it was missing the tray, the truck tray can be modified to work though.

http://www.gmpartsdirect.com Try part #12558762

Doug is legendary for awesome headers, has been for some time. I use Kooks on my '02 Z-28, but I will use his services once I stuff a Gen 3 motor in my green beater.

[jkade]

Originally Posted by 71Farmtruck

http://www.gmpartsdirect.com Try part #12558762

Doug is legendary for awesome headers, has been for some time. I use Kooks on my '02 Z-28, but I will use his services once I stuff a Gen 3 motor in my green beater.

Well there You need to make sure your links work before calling B.S. and you probably found a pan on there for around $150-$175 yeah, yeah. What you don't factor in is pricing the pickup tube, and the windage tray Do a little more research before calling

[shifty]

damn, i guess i got ripped on my f-body pan sale price over @ ls1tech

hey rob - if Doug needs another guinea pig to test fitment on, please shoot him my name. I am all about testing products, and he is guaranteed to get a LOT of pictures here and at the LS1techs with a LOT of feedback, probably a nice boost in sales as well

free is always nice, and i'm always game to paying shipping and handling costs

[Hart_Rod]

Originally Posted by shifty

damn, i guess i got ripped on my f-body pan sale price over @ ls1tech

hey rob - if Doug needs another guinea pig to test fitment on, please shoot him my name. I am all about testing products, and he is guaranteed to get a LOT of pictures here and at the LS1techs with a LOT of feedback, probably a nice boost in sales as well

free is always nice, and i'm always game to paying shipping and handling costs

I'll mention it to him. I think he said the price was going to be around $560 + shipping. I think that includes, gaskets, collectors and header bolts. I can't say much about the price, but I will say the quality is incredible.

R/

[gringoloco]

Hmmm... If they happened to make it this way in May, we could test fit 'em w/ a Dropmember... . ...

[Hart_Rod]

Originally Posted by gringoloco

Hmmm... If they happened to make it this way in May, we could test fit 'em w/ a Dropmember... . ...

I'll see what I can do........

[71Farmtruck]

I think you need to lighten up, I meant it in jest, but since you challenge me, here goes:

I posted the link to the general site, prompting the thread user to type in the part # since the search function does not allow direct links to the searches, I for got that in my original post in my excitement to help but realized that fact and updated my post.

The pan kit comes with sensor, bolts, and gasket. (I saw you edited your post on the bolts.)
Here is a break down of the cost of the ls1 pan kit with windage tray and pick up tube:

LS1 F-body oil pan = 12558762 $167.34
LS1 F-body oil pump pickup = 12558251 $28.99
LS1 F-body windage tray = 12558253 $15.06

Grand TTL: $211.39 + shipping, which is alot better than buying used stuff from some yahoo on ls1tech. That was my point.

I posted only to help, I did not figure the "working from scratch" viewpoint that a transplant involves. I have built, tuned, and raced LSX motors since they were new.

[jkade]

Originally Posted by 71Farmtruck

I think you need to lighten up, I meant it in jest, but since you challenge me, here goes:

I posted the link to the general site, prompting the thread user to type in the part # since the search function does not allow direct links to the searches, I for got that in my original post in my excitement to help but realized that fact and updated my post.

The pan kit comes with sensor, bolts, and gasket. (I saw you edited your post on the bolts.)
Here is a break down of the cost of the ls1 pan kit with windage tray and pick up tube:

LS1 F-body oil pan = 12558762 $167.34
LS1 F-body oil pump pickup = 12558251 $28.99
LS1 F-body windage tray = 12558253 $15.06

Grand TTL: $211.39 + shipping, which is alot better than buying used stuff from some yahoo on ls1tech. That was my point.

I posted only to help, I did not figure the "working from scratch" viewpoint that a transplant involves. I have built, tuned, and raced LSX motors since they were new.

Just don't be calling B.S. and we will get along fine So I figured I saved a good $60 + by buying one used and money saved is fine with me. Your post came across as being a smart a$$ so I reacted in a way I thought was equal to your post. You may be a member of ls1.tech, or pro touring or some of the other sites where being a smart a$$ is cool but people over here don't care for it much and when people over here start acting like them I will stay clear of this site also. FYI most gm dealerships will match the gmpartsdirect.com site so you can save the shipping and get it local. I went back and looked and found the price I wrote down when I was needing a pan from gm and it was $197 then for just the pan so they have come down in price. No harm no foul 71farmtruck

[Hart_Rod]

71 Farmtruck thanks for the good information. I'm not sure what the problem is lately, but it seems like everyone is in a crabby mood when they post. I think people need to take the time to read their posts before they post them........if you can't say something nice, then don't say anything at all.

R/

[71Farmtruck]

Well, I will admit I did use the flag, only because I thought it was funny, and not to attack. Everything jkade said in his post that I quoted is correct technically, I assumed by saying good luck he meant that it was scarce new at a reasonable price, which I wanted to show that it was not.

Parts direct is great for factory parts, if you have the part #. I bought my L92 heads and L76 intake from them, which really kicks. I have a list of part numbers for the LS motors if anyone cares, I would be happy to share.

[shifty]

Originally Posted by 71Farmtruck

Parts direct is great ...

... if you like getting your ass pounded. They're a nightmare to deal with. You can't talk to a human, you pay $100 less than the dealership for parts, but 10x the shipping (shipping on that pan is probably $65). In the long run, you're barely breaking even, and sometimes paying more by using GMPD.

To boot, when I bought my truck pan, dipstick, pickup from them, they sent it in an oversize box with barely any padding, it rattled around so much it had a hole the size of a baseball in it, some of the bolts were missing, the pan was damaged.

It was clearly their fault, but it took almost 3 days to get in touch with someone there just to get a claim filed and get new parts shipped out AND THEY BLAMED THE DELIVERY PERSON. It was their shoddy packaging. I told FedEx straight up, it was the deliverer's grossly inappropriate package that caused the problem.

Scary part? They probably re-sold the pan to someone else.

I dunno about you, but If I have a choice between buying online and paying 20% less for parts, but 150% more for shipping, or buying locally, guess what I'm going to do?

AVOID GMPD!!!

[krue]

Everyone take a chill pill, I know you weren't consciously trying to start a pissing match but it doesn't take much for it to read that way.

[71Farmtruck]

I apologize, and remove the flag.