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Old 09-15-2020, 09:48 AM   #651
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Got the rear brakes rebuilt with new hardware, pads, and drums. Also got the rear end set back in place.
Engine got cleaned up and painted after the rebuild.
Gotta pick up some gaskets today and get the accessories installed on the motor and ready to set it.....gonna wait till the brake lines get hete before we set it in.
One mo step in da process!!!
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Old 09-15-2020, 11:24 AM   #652
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Looks great John! Love the engine!

So glad you have time to work on her again!
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Old 09-15-2020, 11:30 AM   #653
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Dangit John, you're making me regret not taking the time to completely paint my engine
You'll be back on the road in no time!
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Old 09-15-2020, 11:56 AM   #654
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Instead of taking it back to the paint shop after reassembly for the stripe you should consider doing the stripe in vinyl. It was pretty easy to apply and cost me $30. And if you've got the trim holes it will be even easier for you.
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Old 09-15-2020, 01:27 PM   #655
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Looks great John! Love the engine!

So glad you have time to work on her again!
Thanks Andy....its and enjoyment and challenging at the same time....but #gottaliveit

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Dangit John, you're making me regret not taking the time to completely paint my engine
You'll be back on the road in no time!
Its definitely makes it look alot better for sure.

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Instead of taking it back to the paint shop after reassembly for the stripe you should consider doing the stripe in vinyl. It was pretty easy to apply and cost me $30. And if you've got the trim holes it will be even easier for you.
I hadnt thought about that. I dont have holes in my doors since they were NOS doors....well almost NOS as I found out....rhanks for the info
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Old 09-16-2020, 02:24 PM   #656
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Well one small progress thing......Got the rear end all buttoned up...all bolts tightened down, new bushings in panhard bar and it installed, rear shocks installed...kinda like the bright red shocks. Just waiting on the brake line stuff to get that area finished up. I am going to paint the rear drums and front calipers a cast color,,,think it will look a lil better than black.

Now for the opinion part of this...I talked with Andy several times over the last couple of days about this. Randy suggested that since my truck is completely apart that if I EVER wanted to do AC that now was the time to do it. It will save me much aggravation doing it now verses next spring/summer when I will actually need AC...I do live in Alabama...the land of humidity.

Here is my choices...I can buy a Vintage Air system and figure out how to put it in.....I like the vents that Corvette Jim sells and will be using them....Or I can buy an original system for the truck and use the dash vents....Best I can tell from the quotes I got is that the Vintage Air is roughly 800.00 cheaper than an original system.

I think an original system will have a better value than a VA System in the event it were to sell....as my uncle says...its not for sale but it can be bought. Based on what I am seeing, from research that I have done about 9% of these trucks came with factory air, but the deception is that AC was an accessory that the dealer could add....so unless you have the original SPID sheet or the original paperwork when the truck was bought there is no way to tell. Even if the dealer added it on later unless you have the original sales order you simply do not know. I am in no way trying to be deceptive about my truck...one quick look at the engine block will tell you its a 3 on the tree truck. Kinda like adding sway bars which I am doing.

My truck will not be completely original...I changed the brakes for safety reasons, added a 700R4 for drivability reasons, am changing the grille to a C60 grille cause I think its just cool and while the outside will be the original white the interior will be a charcoal gray looking color. All these things are easily changeable back to stock if someone so chose to do it. But I prefer to keep it as stock looking as possible given these few changes...of course her new shoes will be a dead giveaway.

So what do yall think....Open the hood and see 1966 everywhere or open it and see vintage air........
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I really like the red shocks! A very nice pop of color underneath.
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Old 09-16-2020, 10:49 PM   #658
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Hmmm that red and black sure does bring to mind a certain school

The frame is lookin' great!
Personally, I would probably go with the Vintage Air kit because I'm frugal that way
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...I can buy a Vintage Air system and figure out how to put it in.....I like the vents that Corvette Jim sells and will be using them....Or I can buy an original system for the truck and use the dash vents....Best I can tell from the quotes I got is that the Vintage Air is roughly 800.00 cheaper than an original system...
John, the VA system would also function MUCH better than the original style, especially with the modern R134a refrigerant. While the OE system would be cool to have and keep the truck period correct, the VA system will be a better value in the long run. ONLY a pure 100% correct stock restoration make the OE system valuable in my opinion...
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Old 09-18-2020, 11:46 AM   #660
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Hmmm that red and black sure does bring to mind a certain school

The frame is lookin' great!
Personally, I would probably go with the Vintage Air kit because I'm frugal that way
Haha ...I will be changing to Crimson...LOL

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John, the VA system would also function MUCH better than the original style, especially with the modern R134a refrigerant. While the OE system would be cool to have and keep the truck period correct, the VA system will be a better value in the long run. ONLY a pure 100% correct stock restoration make the OE system valuable in my opinion...
I have kicked it around back and forth OE vs VA....so follow my thoughts...I know it may be hard...lol

I have been looking on FB marketplace, Craigslist, Ebay and pretty much every other place that I can find that sells old chevy trucks for 1 truck...a 66 C10 SWB, Fleet,BBW,Custom Cab,327 truck and lets just say I havent found one....I do know where one is at but he wont sell it because it has factory AC, PS, PB, Auto, 327........

I also talked with several folks who supposedly know and unless you have the build sheet or original service paperwork there is hardly anyway to tell if the truck came with PB, PS, AC etc....motors are different because of the numbers on them. Again Im not trying to deceive anyone about my truck....but AC was added by many dealers as an accessory...I know one person who has a NOS AC set up, again he wont let it go( Dont blame him)

I talked with a couple folks about original OE setups and found that all run R12 and have asked if the compressor and associated parts can be converted to R134a....IF they can be converted to R134a I am leaning that way.

I have purchased the center and outer vents from CorvetteJim here on the forum from his website coolc10, which btw are on sale because I like the stock look of it and while I understand the outside vents were never there I think it just helps cool and they look good as well.....and along with the original deluxe heater and AC controls I lean that way.

My "Plan" for my truck originally was to change the leaking rear main seals and drive it....Boy I missed that mark..lol especially when I saw the broke main cap bolts, and upside down pistons........

I can buy all original parts for what I want to do...Power Brakes, Power Steering ( they all leak from what Im told) AC etc....but the cost associated with "Original" outweighs function in my opinion....except the AC because of the look....and many things I am doing is based solely on looks...ie C60 grille, chromed sail panels, grille, park lamp bezels, horn ring, button etc....

I am changing the brakes to power because I was given a free booster and dual master cylinder, 5 lug discs because they were on sale as well as the rear axles.

I guess in hind sight the bolt fiasco was a blessing because it gave me time to really think about which way to go on the build and allow me to accumulate parts over a period of time without a big chunk leaving at one time.

All that said...lol If I can get the OE Ac in R134a I "think" that is the way I am going to go for no other reason than I think it will look better and hopefully cool....no doubt itll be better than no AC at all...lol

the journey continues.......................
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John,

I get your thought process on the AC. Here is what I think about the OE stuff going to R134a refrigerant...What compressor are you going to use? I have seen just about all of them can work with 134a, mostly just the fitting style for the charge ports and the type of oil is the main changes. The system could be converted to an orifice tube style system and you should really look at a parallel flow condenser for the system. Seems the size and type of condenser effects the system performance more with 134a.

As you said, any AC is better than no AC.
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I see many trucks with the vintage air system. Have you considered the Old Air brand?
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