Boss 338 Wheels **GROUP BUY**

[brossow]

Originally Posted by 72mistressc10

I believe the new hub bore was suppose to be 94.62mm=3.725, right?

Did you see that somewhere official? That's 1/2" larger than what appears to have been delivered. WTF?

I've posted this info multiple times, but once more won't hurt. The national number for American Eagle Wheels (the company behind Boss and several other brands) is 909-590-8828. To find a local distributor, go here: http://americaneaglewheel.com/distributor.cfm. I encourage people to call, ask questions, demand answers, and report back with your findings. Might help to play dumb and just see what they tell you. Some items of interest include:

1. What is the hub bore on the revised wheels?
2. What is the ETA on the 20" chrome wheels?
3. What specifically was changed with the -3 revision?
4. Are there any plans for other backspacing options on the 20x10 wheel in order to better fit earlier trucks?

I'm sure there are many other questions as well, but those come immediately to mind.

EDIT: You might also consider asking questions in response to their blog post about the revised wheels. The blog is their PR piece, so if they start seeing a lot of public questions they might be more responsive. Please be courteous if you go this route.

Brent

[Wildstreak]

Ah I see now dam 0 and 8 look very similar in small text lol

[Sublvr72]

looks like they fit fine 20x8.5 and 20x10

[Leviticus]

Ok, guys,

Here are some pics of the front fitment issue. It looks like it is just hitting the front edge of the hub bore, from what I can tell, nothing behind where it is hitting towards the front of the wheel is an issue.

Its hard to judge how far off the rotor face it is sitting cause the wheels wants to oscillate on the hub but it looks like about a 1/4" or less. I think we are better off than the old version, but not direct fit.

I pulled my Caliper Gauge out to get you numbers on the hub bore but its and electric one and the battery was dead (left it on doh!) I'll get some batteries for it today.

You can see where its hitting in the hub in the pics.

[brossow]

Originally Posted by Leviticus

I pulled my Caliper Gauge out to get you numbers on the hub bore but its and electric one and the battery was dead (left it on doh!) I'll get some batteries for it today.

Your box says it's the 82.80mm bore, so no real need to measure unless the box is mislabeled. I've got a brand-new caliper at home I've been looking for an excuse to use, so if I remember I'll see what the OD of the hub on my 1.25" rotors is when I get home.

[72mistressc10]

I think there is a problem with your order Leviticus. That part number is suppose to have a Hub Bore of 94.62 (3.725 Inch). This was confirmed on the phone with Troy from American Eagle, Troy has my contact info and will be calling me back with more of an explanation.

http://www.elites-wholesale.com/Shop...d/0/rid/126374
This website also shows the new hub size.

[brossow]

Originally Posted by 72mistressc10

I think there is a problem with your order Leviticus. That part number is suppose to have a Hub Bore of 94.62 (3.725 Inch). This was confirmed on the phone with Troy from American Eagle, Troy has my contact info and will be calling me back with more of an explanation.

Either way I find it interesting that the wheels didn't fit, because I just measured the hub diameter on my 1.25" rotors and the hub is only 2.961" (75.21 mm) wide, so either wheel should bolt right on. (These are stock replacement rotors from AutoZone or Advanced Auto, can't remember which.) Weird.

Brent

[Leviticus]

Originally Posted by brossow

Either way I find it interesting that the wheels didn't fit, because I just measured the hub diameter on my 1.25" rotors and the hub is only 2.961" (75.21 mm) wide, so either wheel should bolt right on. (These are stock replacement rotors from AutoZone or Advanced Auto, can't remember which.) Weird.

Brent

Brent,

Loot at the pictures of the hub bore on my other post, the taper from the back to the front of the wheel. They are deffinately the new design, I think some genius at Boss thought we were having fitment issues at the base of the hub and not the front.

Either way, it was a five minute fix and I got em on.

As for the rears when I was at my tire store I had them pull a tamper proof lug nut off that I didn't have the key for, well he got it off and he grabbed a replacement lug nut and proceeded to put it on. Well I walked around the back of my truck and noticed his impact wrench was hammering all the way down the threads not just when it snugged up.

The damage was done, he either cross threaded it or used the wrong lug nut. When I went to pull it off it was really tight on the threads, it spun about 1 and a 1/2 turns then stripped the splines inside the drum.

So I call em, they say yeah bring it back down, I drive all the way back to town and they say they can't fix it till tomorrow...it has been one of those days, its beer time now!

I'll pull the other side and see if the 1/4" spacer will work...after I finish this beer

[brossow]

Originally Posted by Leviticus

Brent,

Loot at the pictures of the hub bore on my other post, the taper from the back to the front of the wheel. They are deffinately the new design, I think some genius at Boss thought we were having fitment issues at the base of the hub and not the front.

Either way, it was a five minute fix and I got em on.

Just re-read my post and I didn't mean to give the impression that I thought yours should have fit -- just odd that my stock replacement rotors were significantly smaller than the hub bore on the rims whereas yours were obviously tight. A veritable case of YMMV. I'm still interested in the diameter of your hubs if you can measure before you grind the other side (if you haven't already ... although from you last post it looks like you did).

Originally Posted by Leviticus

As for the rears when I was at my tire store I had them pull a tamper proof lug nut off that I didn't have the key for, well he got it off and he grabbed a replacement lug nut and proceeded to put it on. Well I walked around the back of my truck and noticed his impact wrench was hammering all the way down the threads not just when it snugged up. The damage was done, he either cross threaded it or used the wrong lug nut. When I went to pull it off it was really tight on the threads, it spun about 1 and a 1/2 turns then stripped the splines inside the drum.

D'OH!!!

[Wildstreak]

Originally Posted by Leviticus

I think some genius at Boss thought we were having fitment issues at the base of the hub and not the front.


I'll pull the other side and see if the 1/4" spacer will work...after I finish this beer

after looking in the original thread, hickup pickup had to modify his hub alot more. maybe they just didn't retro it enough for us. but either way its not near as bad as what he had to do. nothin like a cold one to let the mind calm down

[Leviticus]

Ok, guys,

A little redneck machining aka a grinder and they slid right on!! Looks like the fronts are solved, now onto the rears.

Before and after, you only have to take a little off, not much.

Havent tried the new revised center cap yet but will let you know in a few.

[6D8_C10]

Originally Posted by Leviticus

Ok, guys,

A little redneck machining aka a grinder and they slid right on!! Looks like the fronts are solved, now onto the rears.

Before and after, you only have to take a little off, not much.

Havent tried the new revised center cap yet but will let you know in a few.

Leviticus, is that with 1 1/2 rotor with 2 7/8 diameter?
What version is that? -2AA
What wheel is it for the 18s or the 20s?
If it is 20, will it be same mod for 18s?

[smith2481]

that is what I am asking if that is all I have to do with the 18s I dont mind that a bit I am all for getting them if not too much work

[brossow]

Originally Posted by 6D8_C10

Leviticus, is that with 1 1/2 rotor with 2 7/8 diameter?
What version is that? -2AA
What wheel is it for the 18s or the 20s?
If it is 20, will it be same mod for 18s?

Those are the revised 20s (-3-AA part #) as shown in his thread here. His hub seems to have been significantly thicker than those on my stock 1.25" rotors. (The measurements from my digital caliper are posted elsewhere in this thread.) No idea why his would have been different, but there ya have it. Measure before ordering because YMMV.

Originally Posted by smith2481

that is what I am asking if that is all I have to do with the 18s I dont mind that a bit I am all for getting them if not too much work

As I said in response to your PM, the 18s will require significant machine work on the hubs to make them fit as documented in the other thread. Leviticus just hit his with a grinder to knock down a bit on the edge. For some reason his hubs were apparently a lot thicker than mine, specs for which are posted elsewhere in this thread.

[6D8_C10]

Originally Posted by brossow

As I said in response to your PM, the 18s will require significant machine work on the hubs to make them fit as documented in the other thread. Leviticus just hit his with a grinder to knock down a bit on the edge. For some reason his hubs were apparently a lot thicker than mine, specs for which are posted elsewhere in this thread.

I guess I will have to read both threads again.
Damn, they have both gotton so big it takes forever to find what you are looking for.

[smith2481]

Oh well I will take my chances and go ahead and get them I will make them work one way or the other lol thanks for everything guys

[mrh33916]

Originally Posted by Leviticus

Ok, guys,

A little redneck machining aka a grinder and they slid right on!! Looks like the fronts are solved, now onto the rears.

Before and after, you only have to take a little off, not much.

Havent tried the new revised center cap yet but will let you know in a few.

Leviticus posted this on page 7,

If this is all that's needed I can live with a little grinding,

[smith2481]

that is what I am going to do with my hubs when I get my wheels

[brossow]

Originally Posted by mrh33916

Leviticus posted this on page 7,

If this is all that's needed I can live with a little grinding,

Just very irritating that after all the hype and all the wait we STILL have to grind the hubs or use spacers. I don't get it. If everyone is happy to grind away, why didn't y'all do it six months ago instead of waiting for the revised rims?

[VA72C10]

Originally Posted by brossow

Just very irritating that after all the hype and all the wait we STILL have to grind the hubs or use spacers. I don't get it. If everyone is happy to grind away, why didn't y'all do it six months ago instead of waiting for the revised rims?

It appears the grinding now is very minimal and something that most anyone with a cheap grinder could accomplish. Before it looked to be something you had to take to a machine shop to have a good amount of material removed.

That being said, BOSS really shot themselves in the foot with this one. The good news is it will keep the number of trucks running these down somewhat so you won't have as many people with the same rims....

[Beatcoaster]

I wish they would/could get it right with the 6 lug 330's for my 69, I would be a definite customer...

[Beatcoaster]

double post...

[Wildstreak]

now its looking more promising. not that I was really worried to begin with.

[Strut]

Originally Posted by Wildstreak

now its looking more promising. not that I was really worried to begin with.

I was sweating bullets! I want these wheels and I want them to fit....

[Wildstreak]

Same here! I want these wheels bad too, theres almost enough of us getting these to form a club lol.