For Gramps (1970 C20 RestoMod)

[litew8]

Originally Posted by Jahloha

Yeah, I have been looking at the forecast for the next month. Wed would be a good day because we leave out of town TH.

I was talking about next Wed. Can't wait to see how you end up maintaining +30 degree more temps in your garage with a cold ground and high cieling.

[mjensen]

I'm not looking forward to working in my garage this weekend....that place is cooooold. I guess one good thing is that I don't need to store my beer in the fridge

I think it's going to be pretty tough to keep the temps up high enough to get the paint to cure, but this may do the trick. http://www.nationaltoolwarehouse.com...15-P47502.aspx

Not too bad of a price either.

[Jahloha]

UPDATE:

As the thread suggest, I have been scratching my head on how to get my garage to a decent temp in order to prime my frame. Because I could not find a solution, these past three days have been horrible because I was held at a stand still. Which for my personal project, is not good.

I started researching all types of heating, with the understanding that I wanted a low cost/non permanent option. I finally came to the conclusion, with the help of other members, to buy a propane top heater and build a temporary enclosure for the frame when I prime and paint.

I ended up buying this from HF with a 25% off coupon, came to just over 50 bucks:

http://www.harborfreight.com/30000-b...ck-to-top-link

I ended up buying the last one there was, needless to say, Utah has been dang cold lately, she said she started the week with about 50 and I got the last one.

So I took it home, set it up on a tank I had laying around and turned it full blast to see how quickly it could warm up a space and how warm it got:


After a 10 minute hiatus tinkering with this for my daughter (an old entertainment center Im turning into a kitchen playlet):


I was extremely happy to feel a noticeable change in temp near my truck and frame was not cold at all to the touch. This was without building the temporary surrounding as well. So this positive outcome led to continuing my work on prepping the front end for paint. I did more wire wheeling, disconnect steering and unbolted from frame, and also disconnected my brake lines.

Sorry for the boring update, but hey, it was a crucial decision for me haha.

[Jahloha]

Originally Posted by litew8

I was talking about next Wed. Can't wait to see how you end up maintaining +30 degree more temps in your garage with a cold ground and high cieling.

I will definitely keep you posted Lite, I am nervous for this endeavor as well haha.

Originally Posted by mjensen

I'm not looking forward to working in my garage this weekend....that place is cooooold. I guess one good thing is that I don't need to store my beer in the fridge

I think it's going to be pretty tough to keep the temps up high enough to get the paint to cure, but this may do the trick. http://www.nationaltoolwarehouse.com...15-P47502.aspx

Not too bad of a price either.

Haha, isn't your truck at your dads? Or have another project on your hands?

PS...Utah cold sucks, can't imagine how are members further north must feel!

[Jahloha]

RANDOM:

While wire wheeling I found another stamping. This stamp was on the passenger side on the frame, on the outside (facing the wheels):


It looks like "57", but I believe there is a "4" in the front that had a sloppy impression, making the stamping read "457".

If you know what this marking is or have any insight, please let me know.

Mahalo.

[litew8]

lol try living in Iowa you think it's cold there

[mjensen]

Yeah, truck is over at my dad's while I finish up this buggy wiring project. Hopefully I can finish most of it this weekend. Then the frame is coming back. It has been brutal lately...hey, but at least it's a dry cold haha.

[Jahloha]

THOUGHTS:

I keep thinking about future endeavors during my build because I feel they directly affect what I am doing today. With that being said, I have been thinking a lot about wiring and brake/fuel lines. Although I have never wired a car or done double flares for lines, I have decided I plan on buying the AAW kit for the truck and running my own fuel and brake lines.

I feel that these two jobs will provide me with a broader skill set, but also be a neat thing to say I did them myself.

I hope to find other opportunities to really "build" this truck, making Gramps even more proud.

[Jahloha]

Originally Posted by litew8

lol try living in Iowa you think it's cold there

Show off! Haha. I did have a cousin play ball for the Hawkeyes, while I was playing down here at the Y. He always talked about the cold!

Originally Posted by mjensen

Yeah, truck is over at my dad's while I finish up this buggy wiring project. Hopefully I can finish most of it this weekend. Then the frame is coming back. It has been brutal lately...hey, but at least it's a dry cold haha.

For sure!

[mjensen]

That's the spirit! Brake and fuel lines aren't too bad. You can even borrow my benders and flaring tool if you would like. Only trick with the flaring tool is to make sure the ends are well lubricated when you flare. Take your time, and it will work out great.

[Jahloha]

Originally Posted by mjensen

That's the spirit! Brake and fuel lines aren't too bad. You can even borrow my benders and flaring tool if you would like. Only trick with the flaring tool is to make sure the ends are well lubricated when you flare. Take your time, and it will work out great.

Man, thats an awesome offer! I will definitely take you up on that, they won't be going in for awhile, so don't be surprised if i hit you in a couple months haha (no shame on my part).

And you are right, the key is patience. Again, thanks for the offer!

[knomadd]

I used the AAW kit on my 71. First time doing a complete rewire, and it wasn't too bad. Make sure you read and follow the instructions and you'll be good.

[Jahloha]

Originally Posted by knomadd

I used the AAW kit on my 71. First time doing a complete rewire, and it wasn't too bad. Make sure you read and follow the instructions and you'll be good.

Duane, did you buy their crimpers or buy another set?

[Lee H]

If you have not done it already you should go onto AAW website and watch the video on how to crimp. It's not like crimping a butt connector with a standard crimper.

[Jahloha]

Originally Posted by Lee H

If you have not done it already you should go onto AAW website and watch the video on how to crimp. It's not like crimping a butt connector with a standard crimper.

Lee:

Good suggestion. Figure I will also buy some additional supplies to practice crimpers prior to starting the project. I know they send some practice supplies, but I figure it will be minimal.

[Jahloha]

UPDATE:

Well, I am still prepping the frame but getting dang close to have from the cab forward ready for primer. Like a dummy, I realized I hadn't done a second power wash once my front end was dismembered, so there was a ton of extra grime and build up on the frame.

So I thought, no biggie, right? I will just spray some marine clean and wire wheel all the crud off. Well, since there was so much build up, all the marine clean and my wire wheel accomplished was to make a mud/tar substance that sprayed all over clean frame, my floor, and of course my face haha. I guess live and learn, right?

Anyways, the frame is probably about 95% complete, ready for a rust encapsulator primer then paint. I need to make my third pass through, to make sure all excess rust, paint, and build up is removed.And for anyone who has wire wheeled their frame, these pictures will bring you happiness and sadness haha, seeing as it marks the completion of a crappy job:






Mahalo!

[Jahloha]

QUESTIONS:

I found the same "457" markings on the driver side, as I did on the pass side from the earlier post. Anyone know what it means? My assumption is its a part number for the frame, but who knows; hopefully you do.


Also, I do not remember removing this piece from the engine bay and I did not document it in my notes. Is it some sort of engine secondary support or something? Let me know, if you know. Thanks.

[swamp rat]

Yea for the thick stuff i use and a putty knife and hand wire brush, then oven cleaner followed by a hose while in the driveway (and side yard too) Remember tho that oven cleaner eats paint..

[knomadd]

Originally Posted by Jahloha

Duane, did you buy their crimpers or buy another set?

I couldn't see spending that much money on a pair of crimpers, so I bought these: http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B0045CUMLQ/ref=oh...
They did a great job on most of the connectors, but there where some connectors that took a bit of initial tweaking to fit inside the jaws. I'm not sure if the terminals are just extra thick, or if the crimpers I bought weren't for the bigger connectors, but I made it work. I'd say these worked great on about 90-95% of the connectors.

[litew8]

Originally Posted by Jahloha

QUESTIONS:

I found the same "457" markings on the driver side, as I did on the pass side from the earlier post. Anyone know what it means? My assumption is its a part number for the frame, but who knows; hopefully you do.
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Also, I do not remember removing this piece from the engine bay and I did not document it in my notes. Is it some sort of engine secondary support or something? Let me know, if you know. Thanks.
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Can't see the part you are asking about too well. Guessing it ties one side of the engine down preventing engine torque movement.

[Jahloha]

Originally Posted by swamp rat

Yea for the thick stuff i use and a putty knife and hand wire brush, then oven cleaner followed by a hose while in the driveway (and side yard too) Remember tho that oven cleaner eats paint..

Yeah, its one of those, "wish I had known that" before it happened haha.

Originally Posted by knomadd

I couldn't see spending that much money on a pair of crimpers, so I bought these: http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00...?ie=UTF8&psc=1

They did a great job on most of the connectors, but there where some connectors that took a bit of initial tweaking to fit inside the jaws. I'm not sure if the terminals are just extra thick, or if the crimpers I bought weren't for the bigger connectors, but I made it work. I'd say these worked great on about 90-95% of the connectors.

Great! I would rather buy a pair then do the rental process with AAW. Better to have a tool, then not.

Originally Posted by litew8

Can't see the part you are asking about too well. Guessing it ties one side of the engine down preventing engine torque movement.

Thats what I figured, but it was attached when I pulled the engine, almost positive.

[Jahloha]

UPDATE:

After posting some inquiries on the forum, I decided I needed to purchase a grinder and some abrasive wheels to properly clean up the frame in prep for primer. Two things:

-Having never used a grinder before, within five seconds I understood the potential danger this tool holds. So for me, the protective wheel cover, leather gloves, proper attire, etc will all be norms when using this tool
-The abrasive wheels are great for frame prep and many other things I imagine my build will present. Although a little bulky, they cover mass areas quickly and strip paint, rust, gunk, etc in a steady pass by.

It is funny how you can think something is looking good (my frame yesterday), then try a new technique and see what you thought was good, wasn't quite as good as it gets. I hope to learn a lot of other things to help me have less "yesterday" moments, and constantly be prepping myself with great knowledge. Although I know experience is often the best teacher.


Also, bought a light stand from HF as well. 1000W (dual 500W). Thing is pretty flimsy, but will serve my needs as a stationary light source. A ton better then my single build clip light I was using.


MAHALO

[swamp rat]

Wire wheels and naked eyes + trouble, get some safety glasses minimum, and if possible a flip up face shield.. Then let er rip!

[Jahloha]

Originally Posted by swamp rat

Wire wheels and naked eyes + trouble, get some safety glasses minimum, and if possible a flip up face shield.. Then let er rip!

Haha, yup. Check, check, and about to go rip it up in final prep for primer tomorrow. What do you think about this plan for primer and paint?

http://67-72chevytrucks.com/vboard/s...d.php?t=608443

[litew8]

Originally Posted by Jahloha

Thats what I figured, but it was attached when I pulled the engine, almost positive.

I was going to add - it doesn't look like the one I have. You may want to ask around for a second opinion.