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SCOTI · 12-01-2009, 01:58 PM

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Originally Posted by 68jewel

Me personally, I wouldn't bore a block .60 over. You've taken the cylinder walls to it's thinnest boundaries. Therefore, heating issues become a problem as far as the amount of heat produced within the cylinder walls by the pistons and this affects the tolerances of heat in your block. I know alot of people do bore .60 over but, it's just my opinion.

That's why quality machinists are worth their money. An .060 over-bore is do-able if the block has decent wall thickness & can handle it (some blocks can, some cant).

**68jewel** · 12-01-2009, 03:10 PM

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Originally Posted by SCOTI

That's why quality machinists are worth their money. An .060 over-bore is do-able if the block has decent wall thickness & can handle it (some blocks can, some cant).

I agree with you totally...some blocks can, some can't. An owner also has to know what shape their block is in to know if it can handle it. And unless you know your machine shop guy pretty good, most will just do the bore just as you asked and send the block right on out the door. Now todays aftermarket blocks can handle a .60 bore with no problem because they are built with thicker cylinder walls.

smoky02 · 12-01-2009, 03:59 PM

Thank you guys for your advice. My block is a newer one piece rear main seal block. My machinist assures me that it will be no problem and I will address that again when i drop the block off at the machine shop. So no one has anymore experience or information about installing a T-56 into a C-10?

**68jewel** · 12-01-2009, 04:48 PM

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Originally Posted by smoky02

Thank you guys for your advice. My block is a newer one piece rear main seal block. My machinist assures me that it will be no problem and I will address that again when i drop the block off at the machine shop. So no one has anymore experience or information about installing a T-56 into a C-10?

I'm no expert, but that's pretty much as far as the installation of the T56 goes. It's a relative easy swap in todays times. Now 5-10 years ago, there was no info and it was all a custom job. Now, there are so many guys doing these swaps it's a simple one. Check out this link for our trucks and the T56 swap......http://www.hurst-drivelines.com/inde...204&Itemid=155

smoky02 · 12-01-2009, 05:24 PM

Called them and they are supposed to call me back.

**68jewel** · 12-01-2009, 06:31 PM

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Originally Posted by smoky02

Called them and they are supposed to call me back.

They are very knowledgeable and have a great tech support team. They can help you from beginning to end on your install.

Wideopenracing15 · 12-01-2009, 06:50 PM

Definitly subscribing to this. I plan on doing this in the future.

ozman3803 · 12-01-2009, 08:31 PM

x2 I'm on the subscribing list

BossHogg69 · 12-02-2009, 01:35 AM

i don't have a T56, but I do have a TKO 500, and had to fab up a hydraulic clutch and the shifter is pretty far back on the TKO, but not as far back as the T56. Here's a link to a thread with some pics in it.

http://67-72chevytrucks.com/vboard/s...d.php?t=364326

smoky02 · 12-02-2009, 10:04 AM

Isn't there a place that you can move the shifter to on the t-56? I think I read something about it before but now I can't seem to find anything. But on the transmission there is a plate about a foot up from the stock location of the shifter plate, I was wondering if that was an optional shifter location.

**68jewel** · 12-02-2009, 10:43 AM

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Originally Posted by smoky02

Isn't there a place that you can move the shifter to on the t-56? I think I read something about it before but now I can't seem to find anything. But on the transmission there is a plate about a foot up from the stock location of the shifter plate, I was wondering if that was an optional shifter location.

Smoky, the Tremec TKO 500's & 600's had 3 different shifter locations to mount the shifter base/plate. The older T56's don't. Now I think you can turn the shifter plate around on the older T56 to get a few inches difference which won't really help you much. You may need to verify what I said about inverting the shifter as I'm not to sure, but I think you can. Now the "new" T56 Magnums have another shifter mounting location. But I don't think you have or will be getting the new T56 will you? If so, then shifter position won't be a problem

smoky02 · 12-02-2009, 12:20 PM

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smoky02 · 12-02-2009, 12:21 PM

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Originally Posted by BossHogg69

i don't have a T56, but I do have a TKO 500, and had to fab up a hydraulic clutch and the shifter is pretty far back on the TKO, but not as far back as the T56. Here's a link to a thread with some pics in it.

http://67-72chevytrucks.com/vboard/s...d.php?t=364326

I wish I could afford the T56 Magnum, no sir the transmission that I am getting came out of a 96 Camaro Z28. Do you know how much farther back the shifter is on the 6 speed compared to your TKO?

smoky02 · 12-02-2009, 05:41 PM

Would I have to remove my bench seat? Or is there a shifter that would fit around it? Or is there another style seat I can use that is still considered a bench with a little more clearence?

BossHogg69 · 12-02-2009, 06:24 PM

i flipped my shifter around on the Tremec and ordered a Hurst stick for a bench seat car. I'm pretty sure that the shifter is even farther back on a T56, but don't quote me on that. Even with mine the way it is, it's pretty close to the seat in 2, 4, and R. I'm sure any vendor that sells T56's or TKO's will be able to tell you how far back or what the difference is.

not sure about another bench style seat that would clear a T56. Jeg's sells a bunch of different Hurst sticks, that's where I got mine. I looked up the dimensions on Hurst's website and did some measuring from my floorpan to the seat and just found something that was close enough.

smoky02 · 12-02-2009, 06:36 PM

That makes good sense...thanks...

Custom 68 · 12-02-2009, 06:39 PM

Finally found this. There is a way to move it forward. I am not sure how tough it is...
http://67-72chevytrucks.com/vboard/s...d.php?t=300892

**68jewel** · 12-02-2009, 07:02 PM

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Originally Posted by Custom 68

Finally found this. There is a way to move it forward. I am not sure how tough it is...
http://67-72chevytrucks.com/vboard/s...d.php?t=300892

I'm no transmission guru, but that looks tough enough. I think a job like that isn't for the average DIY'er. I would have a transmission guy do that and yet still hopefully they can do it right. LOL!

**68jewel** · 12-02-2009, 07:08 PM

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Originally Posted by Custom 68

Finally found this. There is a way to move it forward. I am not sure how tough it is...
http://67-72chevytrucks.com/vboard/s...d.php?t=300892

This is a good thread to reference. As I thought, but was unsure, you can invert the shifter on the T56. You may want to print this thread out for directions.

smoky02 · 12-03-2009, 11:21 AM

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Originally Posted by Custom 68

Finally found this. There is a way to move it forward. I am not sure how tough it is...
http://67-72chevytrucks.com/vboard/s...d.php?t=300892

This is great information, thank you very much.

Custom 68 · 12-03-2009, 01:26 PM

I looked at mine again last night and I think for it to work right I will need to move this forward but I am not sure it is something I want to tackle and chance messing up my 1000 dollar transmission. Good luck with yours.
Dave

smoky02 · 12-03-2009, 03:57 PM

I'm calling a few of the tranny shops around here and see if they can do it.

ozman3803 · 12-20-2009, 07:51 PM

did anybody get a quote on the t56 magnum yet? It's sunday and long ways down the road for this install but just curious.

**68jewel** · 12-21-2009, 02:19 PM

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Originally Posted by ozman3803

did anybody get a quote on the t56 magnum yet? It's sunday and long ways down the road for this install but just curious.

I got mine from Jegs for $2795. Forgot how much freight was, but I think it was around $120 shipping. No tax because of out of state.

dan468 · 01-27-2010, 11:02 PM

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Originally Posted by smoky02

Called them and they are supposed to call me back.

What questions did you ask them? Did they get back with you? I'm hoping to be able to just buy the parts I need from them.

Thanks for any updates on your trans project...

Dan

12-01-2009, 03:59 PM	#28
smoky02 Registered User Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: Sunny, Florida, some might call it South Alabama Posts: 834	Re: Installing a T-56 Thank you guys for your advice. My block is a newer one piece rear main seal block. My machinist assures me that it will be no problem and I will address that again when i drop the block off at the machine shop. So no one has anymore experience or information about installing a T-56 into a C-10? __________________ Just sold my C10...sad day... Looking for a 1972 Blazer to hopefully fill the hole in my heart.

12-01-2009, 05:24 PM	#30
smoky02 Registered User Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: Sunny, Florida, some might call it South Alabama Posts: 834	Re: Installing a T-56 Called them and they are supposed to call me back. __________________ Just sold my C10...sad day... Looking for a 1972 Blazer to hopefully fill the hole in my heart.

12-01-2009, 06:50 PM	#32
Wideopenracing15 Registered User Join Date: Aug 2009 Location: Des Moines, IA Posts: 299	Re: Installing a T-56 Definitly subscribing to this. I plan on doing this in the future.

12-01-2009, 08:31 PM	#33
ozman3803 Registered User Join Date: Jun 2009 Location: Lincoln, NE Posts: 125	Re: Installing a T-56 x2 I'm on the subscribing list

12-02-2009, 01:35 AM	#34
BossHogg69 motor exploder Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: Pittsburgh, PA Posts: 2,346	Re: Installing a T-56 i don't have a T56, but I do have a TKO 500, and had to fab up a hydraulic clutch and the shifter is pretty far back on the TKO, but not as far back as the T56. Here's a link to a thread with some pics in it. http://67-72chevytrucks.com/vboard/s...d.php?t=364326 __________________ Adam 1969 Chevy CST/10 stepside, DART Big M/TREMEC Magnum Extreme/3.73's w/Detroit Truetrac 1965 Chevy Bel Air Wagon (daily driver), 327/TH350,10 bolt w/3.08's 1961 Chevy Bel Air Sport Coupe, ZZ454/M21/9" rear w/3.50's & Detroit Truetrac 2005 GMC 1500 ccsb 2wd, 6.0L/4L65e/3.73 G80 2006 GMC 2500HD ccsb 4x4, DMax LBZ/Allison 6spd/4.56's w/Detroit TrueTrac Use the SEARCH function on this forum - it is your friend!!

12-02-2009, 10:04 AM	#35
smoky02 Registered User Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: Sunny, Florida, some might call it South Alabama Posts: 834	Re: Installing a T-56 Isn't there a place that you can move the shifter to on the t-56? I think I read something about it before but now I can't seem to find anything. But on the transmission there is a plate about a foot up from the stock location of the shifter plate, I was wondering if that was an optional shifter location. __________________ Just sold my C10...sad day... Looking for a 1972 Blazer to hopefully fill the hole in my heart.

12-02-2009, 12:20 PM	#37
smoky02 Registered User Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: Sunny, Florida, some might call it South Alabama Posts: 834	Re: Installing a T-56 Deleted __________________ Just sold my C10...sad day... Looking for a 1972 Blazer to hopefully fill the hole in my heart. Last edited by smoky02; 12-02-2009 at 12:21 PM.

12-02-2009, 05:41 PM	#39
smoky02 Registered User Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: Sunny, Florida, some might call it South Alabama Posts: 834	Re: Installing a T-56 Would I have to remove my bench seat? Or is there a shifter that would fit around it? Or is there another style seat I can use that is still considered a bench with a little more clearence? __________________ Just sold my C10...sad day... Looking for a 1972 Blazer to hopefully fill the hole in my heart.

12-02-2009, 06:24 PM	#40
BossHogg69 motor exploder Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: Pittsburgh, PA Posts: 2,346	Re: Installing a T-56 i flipped my shifter around on the Tremec and ordered a Hurst stick for a bench seat car. I'm pretty sure that the shifter is even farther back on a T56, but don't quote me on that. Even with mine the way it is, it's pretty close to the seat in 2, 4, and R. I'm sure any vendor that sells T56's or TKO's will be able to tell you how far back or what the difference is. not sure about another bench style seat that would clear a T56. Jeg's sells a bunch of different Hurst sticks, that's where I got mine. I looked up the dimensions on Hurst's website and did some measuring from my floorpan to the seat and just found something that was close enough. __________________ Adam 1969 Chevy CST/10 stepside, DART Big M/TREMEC Magnum Extreme/3.73's w/Detroit Truetrac 1965 Chevy Bel Air Wagon (daily driver), 327/TH350,10 bolt w/3.08's 1961 Chevy Bel Air Sport Coupe, ZZ454/M21/9" rear w/3.50's & Detroit Truetrac 2005 GMC 1500 ccsb 2wd, 6.0L/4L65e/3.73 G80 2006 GMC 2500HD ccsb 4x4, DMax LBZ/Allison 6spd/4.56's w/Detroit TrueTrac Use the SEARCH function on this forum - it is your friend!! Last edited by BossHogg69; 12-02-2009 at 06:26 PM.

12-02-2009, 06:36 PM	#41
smoky02 Registered User Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: Sunny, Florida, some might call it South Alabama Posts: 834	Re: Installing a T-56 That makes good sense...thanks... __________________ Just sold my C10...sad day... Looking for a 1972 Blazer to hopefully fill the hole in my heart.

12-02-2009, 06:39 PM	#42
Custom 68 Registered User Join Date: Nov 2001 Location: Springfield, MO Posts: 2,930	Re: Installing a T-56 Finally found this. There is a way to move it forward. I am not sure how tough it is... http://67-72chevytrucks.com/vboard/s...d.php?t=300892 __________________ Dave 1968 Custom Chevy with turbo charged 5.3 gen III 4l80e swap 1967-71 GMC 3/4 ton long step 4x4 (not sure what year exactly?) "A good friend will bail you out of jail...but a true friend will be sitting next to you saying "that was frekin awesome". "If it doesn't fit force it...If it breaks then it needed to be replaced anyway!"

12-03-2009, 01:26 PM	#46
Custom 68 Registered User Join Date: Nov 2001 Location: Springfield, MO Posts: 2,930	Re: Installing a T-56 I looked at mine again last night and I think for it to work right I will need to move this forward but I am not sure it is something I want to tackle and chance messing up my 1000 dollar transmission. Good luck with yours. Dave __________________ Dave 1968 Custom Chevy with turbo charged 5.3 gen III 4l80e swap 1967-71 GMC 3/4 ton long step 4x4 (not sure what year exactly?) "A good friend will bail you out of jail...but a true friend will be sitting next to you saying "that was frekin awesome". "If it doesn't fit force it...If it breaks then it needed to be replaced anyway!"

12-03-2009, 03:57 PM	#47
smoky02 Registered User Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: Sunny, Florida, some might call it South Alabama Posts: 834	Re: Installing a T-56 I'm calling a few of the tranny shops around here and see if they can do it. __________________ Just sold my C10...sad day... Looking for a 1972 Blazer to hopefully fill the hole in my heart.

12-20-2009, 07:51 PM	#48
ozman3803 Registered User Join Date: Jun 2009 Location: Lincoln, NE Posts: 125	Re: Installing a T-56 did anybody get a quote on the t56 magnum yet? It's sunday and long ways down the road for this install but just curious.



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